October 10, 200817 yr Hey, I'm looking for an alternative to the d-scimmy for strength training, and i was considering the zammy spear a friend recommended it to me. does it even have a strength option? and is it a 2 handed weapon like most spears? Thx -DolchTrager
October 10, 200817 yr Probably your friend was thinking of its holier counterpart, the Saradomin Sword, which does indeed have a strength option and is the best weapon for strength training. It has the same strength & slash and attack speed as a whip, but it's two-handed. It's also very expensive, but if you can't afford it and you still want something better than a d scimmy, you can try an obby sword with a zerker necklace, which is better than the d scimmy and under a mil. Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP
October 10, 200817 yr he was probably thinking of ss, which is quite good for str training. however, it is significantly more expensive.. "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti
October 10, 200817 yr he was probably thinking of ss, which is quite good for str training. however, it is significantly more expensive.. I like how you always reply to a thread just saying what others have already said, without adding anything :|. If you're not a pure and/or maxed, just using a whip on controlled is the best. If yes, just follow what troacctid said.
October 10, 200817 yr he was probably thinking of ss, which is quite good for str training. however, it is significantly more expensive.. I like how you always reply to a thread just saying what others have already said, without adding anything :|. If you're not a pure and/or maxed, just using a whip on controlled is the best. If yes, just follow what troacctid said. I apologize, usually i am only looking at the question, not the answers others have given. "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti
October 10, 200817 yr he was probably thinking of ss, which is quite good for str training. however, it is significantly more expensive.. I like how you always reply to a thread just saying what others have already said, without adding anything :|. If you're not a pure and/or maxed, just using a whip on controlled is the best. If yes, just follow what troacctid said. I have seen so many people claiming that controlled training is the best method, but only attack and strength increase the rate that you get xp, so wouldn't training attack and strength up individually and then training defense while you have a higher attack and strength be faster than training all three at a slower rate? Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield + DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 SeercullDragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,HalberdGWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh + Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core + Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow [spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 + Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 + Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 + Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 + Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 + Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 + Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14Agility Cape Acquired 1-4-15 + Hunter Cape Acquired 1-30-15 + Construction Cape Acquired 1-31-15 + Crafting Cape Acquired 2-22-15 + Thieving Cape Acquired 3-18-15Runecrafting Cape Acquired 4-14-15 + Mining Cape Acquired 4-19-15 + Fishing Cape Acquired 4-25-15 + Firemaking Cape Acquired 4-26-15 + Woodcutting Cape Acquired 4-26-15Cooking Cape Acquired 4-26-15+ Smithing Cape Acquired 4-28-15 + Farming Cape Acquired 4-29-15 + Divination Cape Acquired 5-3-15 + Dungeoneering Mastery 5-4-15Fletching Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Max Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Invention Cape Acquired 11-9-16 + Invention Mastery 5-16-19 + Archaeology Cape Acquired 10-30-20
October 10, 200817 yr he was probably thinking of ss, which is quite good for str training. however, it is significantly more expensive.. I like how you always reply to a thread just saying what others have already said, without adding anything :|. If you're not a pure and/or maxed, just using a whip on controlled is the best. If yes, just follow what troacctid said. I have seen so many people claiming that controlled training is the best method, but only attack and strength increase the rate that you get xp, so wouldn't training attack and strength up individually and then training defense while you have a higher attack and strength be faster than training all three at a slower rate? It would be, except that in order to train strength on its own, you need to use a weaker weapon. Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP
October 15, 200817 yr he was probably thinking of ss, which is quite good for str training. however, it is significantly more expensive.. I like how you always reply to a thread just saying what others have already said, without adding anything :|. If you're not a pure and/or maxed, just using a whip on controlled is the best. If yes, just follow what troacctid said. I have seen so many people claiming that controlled training is the best method, but only attack and strength increase the rate that you get xp, so wouldn't training attack and strength up individually and then training defense while you have a higher attack and strength be faster than training all three at a slower rate? It would be, except that in order to train strength on its own, you need to use a weaker weapon. So are you saying that somebody with 90 attack and strength would be getting attack exp on the focused option at a faster rate using a whip than someone with 95 attack and strength would be getting strength xp using a sara sword on its focused option? because SERIOUSLY doubt that the gap in xp/hour is that large, even in a 91/91 to 90/90 comparison. Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield + DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 SeercullDragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,HalberdGWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh + Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core + Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow [spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 + Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 + Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 + Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 + Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 + Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 + Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14Agility Cape Acquired 1-4-15 + Hunter Cape Acquired 1-30-15 + Construction Cape Acquired 1-31-15 + Crafting Cape Acquired 2-22-15 + Thieving Cape Acquired 3-18-15Runecrafting Cape Acquired 4-14-15 + Mining Cape Acquired 4-19-15 + Fishing Cape Acquired 4-25-15 + Firemaking Cape Acquired 4-26-15 + Woodcutting Cape Acquired 4-26-15Cooking Cape Acquired 4-26-15+ Smithing Cape Acquired 4-28-15 + Farming Cape Acquired 4-29-15 + Divination Cape Acquired 5-3-15 + Dungeoneering Mastery 5-4-15Fletching Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Max Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Invention Cape Acquired 11-9-16 + Invention Mastery 5-16-19 + Archaeology Cape Acquired 10-30-20
October 15, 200817 yr he was probably thinking of ss, which is quite good for str training. however, it is significantly more expensive.. I like how you always reply to a thread just saying what others have already said, without adding anything :|. If you're not a pure and/or maxed, just using a whip on controlled is the best. If yes, just follow what troacctid said. I have seen so many people claiming that controlled training is the best method, but only attack and strength increase the rate that you get xp, so wouldn't training attack and strength up individually and then training defense while you have a higher attack and strength be faster than training all three at a slower rate? Bingo. I used to do controlled, then I (a) sold my whip (but I almost have it back) and (B) realised that my old method of att-str-def was actualy faster because I get the same end (1 up each level) but each level I get helps me train a bit faster. Even the def level helps since it means using less food, but I think att-str-def is best because the attack level gets you the most out of your strenth level.
October 16, 200817 yr Author So if i were wanting to have a general weapon to train attack def and use controlled for all 3, should i use a whip, or a zammy spear :?: ;) -DolchTrager
October 16, 200817 yr So if i were wanting to have a general weapon to train attack def and use controlled for all 3, should i use a whip, or a zammy spear :?: ;) Use a whip with a Rune Defender. Zammy Spear is best when the stab or crush attack options are far superior to slash; examples of this being at waterfiends or the corpreal beast.
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