October 13, 200817 yr Basiacly I Installed XP just now, on my main laptop, and as soon as I start it up, it just loads XP right away, not even giving me an option to load Vista (yea-yea I tried F8). Does anyone know a programm that will let me choose which OS i wanna use before I start my session? Weirdest PART: I had 60 gb on my c drive. I've split it into two parts (40gb left for vista and 20 gb for xp). After I installed the XP i checked disk C and it had 0 bytes of free memory, 100% full!!! Does anyone know how that could've happened? I uninstalled a game and I have 2Gb left, but i need the other 40 or so gb. Update: I found a wireless driver, so I can go on the internet now, and I'm gonna download latest drivers and Service pack 3, but I still need an OS booter.
October 13, 200817 yr More or less, you're talking about a bootloader - and Windows comes with one right out of the box. Typically, when doing multi-boot setups, the idea is that the primary OS is always installed last. Anyway, Windows should have one, but if it goes right into Vista, you might need to hit F8 before full boot. Of course, you could try GRUB. That's findable online someplace, can't remember the exact location. Linux User/Enthusiast | Full-Stack Software Engineer | Stack Overflow Member | GIMP User...Alright, the Elf City update lured me back to RS over a year ago.
October 13, 200817 yr I would not go though windows and completely disagree with Makoto_the_Phoenix. Going though windows means your dependent windows. i Would use grub.
October 13, 200817 yr Author I updated the question and I have new problems now :)) Also GRUB looks like a linux programm, but I might as well install linux anyways since i always wanted one, what version do you guys reccomend? Still looking for a Multi-booter Though
October 13, 200817 yr If you always were on Windows, I'd suggest you a more user friendly one like Ubuntu, I know it's not the most user friendly but hey :P. My friend that insatelled Ubuntu on dual boot had never touched anything else than windows. Now, he doesn't want to return at all to windows but has to keep it since it's the college's laptop and needs it for the course lol.
October 13, 200817 yr I'll second Ubuntu. From what I've read, it's really user friendly, and Windows users will be able to adapt to it rather quickly. It's the one I'm putting on my computers, and I may use Ubuntu Server if I ever get around to fixing my desktop. I believe you can use GRUB on Windows or Linux. Actually, here is a guide on it. [hide=Funny Quotes]So you sucker punched a kid in the back of the head? Good job.What scares me is that you're like 10 years old.-.- im not that freaking youngYou were a couple years ago.It's not racist if its true.Hmm... I wonder how one goes about throwing someone out a window in a mystic fashion :-k The mental image for that is freaking awesome.[/hide]- I dont need to "get a life." I'm a gamer - I have LOTS of lives!
October 13, 200817 yr I would not go though windows and completely disagree with Makoto_the_Phoenix. Going though windows means your dependent windows. i Would use grub. In effect, I'd use GRUB too. I believed that the Windows bootloader (which should've worked by default, guess it didn't, big surprise) would be an easier course of action for him. If you really want to test the waters with Linux, Ubuntu is one way to do it. However, since you're used to Windows, Kubuntu might be slightly better suited to your needs (ironically, it's the same OS, different window manager. More on that later). Remember: If you decide to install Linux, it will "own" the master boot partition, which means that it will use GRUB. Of course, GRUB is good at detecting other OSes on the hard disk, so you shouldn't have problems from there. [Just remember to give Linux enough room to play! At least 12GB or so.] Linux User/Enthusiast | Full-Stack Software Engineer | Stack Overflow Member | GIMP User...Alright, the Elf City update lured me back to RS over a year ago.
October 13, 200817 yr I would also recommend Ubuntu is a stable and very well rounded distro, although not the best for old hardware. When you install Ubuntu GRUB is automatically installed anyway, you'll most likely end up modifying the boot order, but there are lots of guides on how to do that. One question why are you wanting to dual/triple boot? Personally I find it a bit annoying as I just end up using 1 all the time (Having said that I do have 3 computers, one with Vista Home Premuim, one with XP Pro and one with Ubuntu) ps. Ubuntu + MythTV + a little time = an amazing HTPC OS \ [hide=Drops]Dragon Axe x11Berserker Ring x9Warrior Ring x8SeercullDragon MedDragon Boots x4 - all less then 30 kcGodsword Shard (bandos)Granite Maul x 3Solo only - doesn't include barrows[/hide][hide=Stats][/hide]
October 13, 200817 yr Remember: If you decide to install Linux, it will "own" the master boot partition, which means that it will use GRUB. Of course, GRUB is good at detecting other OSes on the hard disk, so you shouldn't have problems from there. First off gub is install on a partition if you install a distro most of the time it is on that distros partition or you can install it standalone. Non the less GRUB rewrites your MBR(Master Boot Record) to boot to GRUB first. If you were to lets say rewrite vista or xp's MBR you would still have the grub partition but it wouldn't boot to it. Also you usually have to tell grub what to boot unless you install it and it auto detects but after the install you have to add manually. You really seem like a "(Ubuntu) Linux User & Enthusiast".
October 13, 200817 yr Skatepank, if you want a comprehensive fix, GRUB is the way to go. If you only want a quick fix, pop in your Vista install CD and run a repair on the boot records. It should detect XP and make it available through a boot menu that you'd have to either call through a boot key or will come up on its' own. :geek: ~D. V. "Choices, choices..." Devnull and normally with a cool mind.(Warning: This user can be VERY confusing to some people... And talks in 3rd person for the timebeing due to how insane they are... Sometimes even to themself.)
October 14, 200817 yr Author Thank you SO MUCH guys, I really apretiated your help, I got dual-booter to work, so now I'm able to choose either Vista or XP at start up... Right now I'm downloading Ubuntu too! Does anyone know how to set up OS X, on my hp laptop though?
October 14, 200817 yr Thank you SO MUCH guys, I really apretiated your help, I got dual-booter to work, so now I'm able to choose either Vista or XP at start up... Right now I'm downloading Ubuntu too! Does anyone know how to set up OS X, on my hp laptop though? Hackintosh Guide Here. It seems like a lot of trouble to put it on a windows pc, but it's been made easier by Apple's recent switch to Intel processors (or so I've read, so don't quote me on it). You will probably have to buy a copy of Leopard, because torrenting one like they say in the guide can lead to all sorts of trouble (unless your ideal weekend is reformatting and re-installing 2 Operating Systems, then you're probably golden). They do say you're better off buying Leopard though, so I'll let it slide. Be careful though, messing with the BIOS is like cutting wires on a bomb - one wrong tweak, and your computer is done for. [hide=Funny Quotes]So you sucker punched a kid in the back of the head? Good job.What scares me is that you're like 10 years old.-.- im not that freaking youngYou were a couple years ago.It's not racist if its true.Hmm... I wonder how one goes about throwing someone out a window in a mystic fashion :-k The mental image for that is freaking awesome.[/hide]- I dont need to "get a life." I'm a gamer - I have LOTS of lives!
October 14, 200817 yr Thank you SO MUCH guys, I really apretiated your help, I got dual-booter to work, so now I'm able to choose either Vista or XP at start up... Right now I'm downloading Ubuntu too! Does anyone know how to set up OS X, on my hp laptop though? Hackintosh Guide Here. It seems like a lot of trouble to put it on a windows pc, but it's been made easier by Apple's recent switch to Intel processors (or so I've read, so don't quote me on it). You will probably have to buy a copy of Leopard, because torrenting one like they say in the guide can lead to all sorts of trouble (unless your ideal weekend is reformatting and re-installing 2 Operating Systems, then you're probably golden). They do say you're better off buying Leopard though, so I'll let it slide. Be careful though, messing with the BIOS is like cutting wires on a bomb - one wrong tweak, and your computer is done for. It is illegal to put OSX anything but a product from Apple. J'adore aussi le sexe et les snuff moviesJe trouve que ce sont des purs moments de vieJe ne me reconnais plus dans les gensJe suis juste un cas désespérantEt comme personne ne viendra me réclamerJe terminerai comme un objet retrouvé
October 14, 200817 yr It is illegal to put OSX anything but a product from Apple. I mention torrenting, and the name is a "Hackintosh." At what point did you see "this is perfectly legal", may I ask? He just wanted to know how. I told him. It's possible, but as I stated, I don't recommend it (and if I didn't state it before, I have now), for possible complications with the install, and legal issues. [hide=Funny Quotes]So you sucker punched a kid in the back of the head? Good job.What scares me is that you're like 10 years old.-.- im not that freaking youngYou were a couple years ago.It's not racist if its true.Hmm... I wonder how one goes about throwing someone out a window in a mystic fashion :-k The mental image for that is freaking awesome.[/hide]- I dont need to "get a life." I'm a gamer - I have LOTS of lives!
October 14, 200817 yr It is illegal to put OSX anything but a product from Apple. I mention torrenting, and the name is a "Hackintosh." At what point did you see "this is perfectly legal", may I ask? He just wanted to know how. I told him. It's possible, but as I stated, I don't recommend it (and if I didn't state it before, I have now), for possible complications with the install, and legal issues. I never said that you'd written "this is legal". I'm just pointing out that it is illegal. Since it's illegal, the text should actually be removed... Since mods locks posts with limewire&etc, but that's not for me to decide. You should know that the computer is not "done for" just because you set a faulty value in the BIOS, unless you up the voltage on the cpu or ram too much. There's always the option of default and CMOS. J'adore aussi le sexe et les snuff moviesJe trouve que ce sont des purs moments de vieJe ne me reconnais plus dans les gensJe suis juste un cas désespérantEt comme personne ne viendra me réclamerJe terminerai comme un objet retrouvé
October 14, 200817 yr I never said that you'd written "this is legal". I'm just pointing out that it is illegal. Since it's illegal, the text should actually be removed... Since mods locks posts with limewire&etc, but that's not for me to decide. You should know that the computer is not "done for" just because you set a faulty value in the BIOS, unless you up the voltage on the cpu or ram too much. There's always the option of default and CMOS. I don't think the text should be removed. Maybe we keep it up as a warning that it's possible, but highly illegal, and not recommended...If someone really wanted to know, they would just google search it. I happened to have that link bookmarked, so I posted it. If a mod wants to take it down, fine, but I've already expressed the illegality of torrenting, and the process, and given recommendations against it. If someone wants to ignore the warnings, it's their problem... As for the BIOS, you're right, but I may as well explain my reasoning. Now, to experienced tech people, changing settings in the BIOS may be a simple, even routine thing (especially if you do modding for people, like gamers). However, let you average office worker (or teacher if you go to my school -.-) whose computer experience is about limited to Outlook and Microsoft Office, and the story changes. How many of these people would know that if something went wrong, they should trigger the BIOS reset jumper if loading defaults didn't work? How many even know that the small battery can be removed and replaced to achieve the same effect (after fully discharging the system, of course)....Probably not many. Yes, some changes are relatively safe to make (like changing the boot order so your cd drive is booted from first, then usb, then HDD, for example)...Other changes, like changing voltages, can be very dangerous. The problem is some people may not know what to change, or by how much to change it. The problem isn't that the BIOS as a whole is dangerous, its experimentation in sensitive parts of BIOS, brought about by natural curiosity that's the problem. [hide=Funny Quotes]So you sucker punched a kid in the back of the head? Good job.What scares me is that you're like 10 years old.-.- im not that freaking youngYou were a couple years ago.It's not racist if its true.Hmm... I wonder how one goes about throwing someone out a window in a mystic fashion :-k The mental image for that is freaking awesome.[/hide]- I dont need to "get a life." I'm a gamer - I have LOTS of lives!
October 14, 200817 yr It is illegal to put OSX anything but a product from Apple. Why the hell would they publicly sell it then? (Link to OSX being sold publicly) It the worst logic ever. :thumbdown: [hide=Drops]Dragon Axe x11Berserker Ring x9Warrior Ring x8SeercullDragon MedDragon Boots x4 - all less then 30 kcGodsword Shard (bandos)Granite Maul x 3Solo only - doesn't include barrows[/hide][hide=Stats][/hide]
October 14, 200817 yr It is illegal to put OSX anything but a product from Apple. Why the hell would they publicly sell it then? (Link to OSX being sold publicly) It the worst logic ever. :thumbdown: It's sold because, maybe you have a mac with the Tiger and want to upgrade. If you read the EULA: "2. Permitted License Uses and Restrictions. A. Single Use. This License allows you to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time. You agree not to install, use or run the Apple Software on any non-Apple-labeled computer, or to enable others to do so. This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one computer at a time, and you may not make the Apple Software available over a network where it could be used by multiple computers at the same time." J'adore aussi le sexe et les snuff moviesJe trouve que ce sont des purs moments de vieJe ne me reconnais plus dans les gensJe suis juste un cas désespérantEt comme personne ne viendra me réclamerJe terminerai comme un objet retrouvé
October 14, 200817 yr It is illegal to put OSX anything but a product from Apple. Why the hell would they publicly sell it then? (Link to OSX being sold publicly) It the worst logic ever. :thumbdown: It's sold because, maybe you have a mac with the Tiger and want to upgrade. If you read the EULA: "2. Permitted License Uses and Restrictions. A. Single Use. This License allows you to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time. You agree not to install, use or run the Apple Software on any non-Apple-labeled computer, or to enable others to do so. This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one computer at a time, and you may not make the Apple Software available over a network where it could be used by multiple computers at the same time." In short, 'General Apple F.U.D.', which Apple is using to keep you tied to their expensive hardware. Downright stupid of Apple to be like that, in my opinion. Don't they realize they could make a lot more $$$ by not being so restrictive? :-s Oh well... I won't be running their software until they get their [bleep]s out of the gutter. -.- ... Heck, Linux sounds better. : ~Mr. D. V. "If you're going to be that way, then [bleep] you, Apple..." Devnull and normally with a cool mind.(Warning: This user can be VERY confusing to some people... And talks in 3rd person for the timebeing due to how insane they are... Sometimes even to themself.)
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