summoning potion > sharks

[Krampell]

The restorations of a summoning pot is either 5 ot 10 (think it's 10). But as you may know, one scroll of the elemental titan/Unicorn Stallion takes 20 special points, so if it restores 10, then you need 2 doeses for just one 14 hp heal (with unicorn) with 99 hp. and then it comes to around 1k each seeing as the scrolls are around 240 gp each preciously metioned.

[Amundogus2]

Summoning potions are useless.

 

They were made obselete when failure version #1 of summoning turned into failure version #2.

 

Unicorns have very limited uses.

 

It can only heal you 13 or 14 and the bar runs out after like 3 or 4 clicks and you can't take it to the fight caves.

 

Food and guthans is preferable to it.

 

Shut up.... Summoning is the best skill ever. If you fail to realise how useful it is, then you're not old enough to play this game.

[Aneron]

Summoning potions are useless.

 

They were made obselete when failure version #1 of summoning turned into failure version #2.

 

Unicorns have very limited uses.

 

It can only heal you 13 or 14 and the bar runs out after like 3 or 4 clicks and you can't take it to the fight caves.

 

Food and guthans is preferable to it.

 

 

 

You are useless. Unicorns heal 21 hp/minute for an expense that, as I have said many times previously, is negligible. They last longer than bunyips. They provide enough healing to stay basically anywhere except high-damage GWDs as long as you have pouches. Each dose of potion restores 15 special move points, meaning you can pay 1k (the price of a potion) to get 42 hitpoints worth of healing. Not to mention the generous natural regeneration of points. Guthans slows you down considerably, and no food heals 42 hitpoints/space.

 

 

 

I got 88 summon... the only place I've used unicorn so far is at God Wars... and I would have used it at DK's but everyone who was going ended up having something else to do :S

 

 

 

Summoning points are only required to resummon familiars or use a familiars right click option (right-click fireball on Forge Regent takes summon points, so I would assume the same for the poison cure on a unicorn).

 

 

 

To be honest though, I usually have been using guthans and combat familiars for almost everything slayer, though. I'm planning on switching that off to SGS and combat familiars when I can, though. Combat familiars are something I find more useful for almost every assignment in multi-combat, and those that aren't in multicombat, a bunyip usually is more than enough. The only place I'll really use unicorn is at Wyverns, Waterfiends, or KBD soloing (well... not really soloing -- helping my friend get charms on his summon tank XD)... or at DK's, GW's, and those bosses....

 

 

 

But yeah, you don't use it anywhere. But for the common person that does God Wars -- it owns.

 

 

 

You don't seem to have read the first post either. SUMMONING POTIONS RESTORE SPECIAL MOVE ENERGY ALLOWING YOU TO USE SCROLLS MORE FREQUENTLY. The potions restore 15 points each, meaning 4 doses gives you enough to cast the special 3 times - but you don't need to sip very frequently because of the natural regeneration. You can use guthans if you want but it is unreliable and slows you down because the spear sucks. The saradomin godsword is useful but it heals about as much hp/minute as a bunyip... it's nice but not enough if you are doing something where you take a lot of damage. Just because you don't use the unicorn everywhere it is useful does not mean it is useless.

 

 

 

The restorations of a summoning pot is either 5 ot 10 (think it's 10). But as you may know, one scroll of the elemental titan/Unicorn Stallion takes 20 special points, so if it restores 10, then you need 2 doeses for just one 14 hp heal (with unicorn) with 99 hp. and then it comes to around 1k each seeing as the scrolls are around 240 gp each preciously metioned.

 

 

 

The restoration is 15. 4 doses (a cost of 1k) will give you 3 specials (a cost of 750 gp), creating a cost of 583 per scroll IF SPECIAL MOVE DID NOT RECHARGE ON ITS OWN. However, it does so the cost is much less (at mithril dragons I use about a dose of summoning potion every 7 minutes, meaning I need to drink a dose of potion for about one in every 11 specials). This means in reality each scroll costs about 275 gp to use at mithril dragons. However, mithril dragons are a much higher damage area than most places. On an average slayer task, no summoning potions are needed whatsoever.

 

 

 

Anyone who says guthans is better than a unicorn is saying that something that is slow and unreliable and not usable in many situations is superior to something that takes no effort or time to use and can be used basically anywhere.

 

 

 

The "too expensive" argument is completely invalid as well. In a summer of camping godwars dungeon and slayer I used about 5k scrolls, for a grand cost of less than 800k. I made hundreds of millions. I could make that 800k in less than 2 hours of runecrafting astrals (someone with 44 runecrafting could make it in under 4 hours doing nature runes) and it definitely saved me many many more hours than that.

[ReapMe]

where would this be useful?

 

in most cases unicorn is more than enough to keep you near full hp

 

even at boss monsters when you'd need to heal, you'd need to take one to two sips of the pot if you were at 0, and activate the scroll which takes a little bit of time to actually heal.

 

i was aware that summon pot heals a bit of the familiars spec bar but never really found a good use for it

[Squisher_33]

where would this be useful?

 

in most cases unicorn is more than enough to keep you near full hp

 

even at boss monsters when you'd need to heal, you'd need to take one to two sips of the pot if you were at 0, and activate the scroll which takes a little bit of time to actually heal.

 

i was aware that summon pot heals a bit of the familiars spec bar but never really found a good use for it

 

 

 

i said when unicorn wasnt enough but not for fast healing

 

 

 

ok people new scenario, your at zammy and unicorn is good but not enough to stay forever of course, your at 52 hp and out of bar from the previous boss, the boss and minions are dead and u got about 30 mroe seconds before it spawns, drink 4 doses and use 3 scrolls and heal 42 hp and be at 94.

 

 

 

its 2x as much as shark but its 2x as much healing meaning that its same cost but u get more healing per inv which is whats nice

 

 

 

3 brews 1 restore is 192 hp for maxed stats and costs about 25k, this is about 168 hp and costs about 8k for those 4 potions so its basicly a differant option for healing between bosses for a little cheaper.

 

 

 

also this doesnt drain stats, yes i know u have restore but u cant super set then and at zammy sharks are more popular to begin with so if u used sharks its better and if u used brews its cheaper and keeps u potted up meaning faster kills even tho it only heals about 85% as much

[Artemis1330]

Never found a situation where stallion+pots was better then stallion+invo of food. Stallion is good to just let the bar go back up, it goes up fast enough by itself.

 

 

 

Also, for all the stallion haters, I cant see how yip is better. For slayer, I only use a healer on 3 tasks. "omg stallion is overkill!!!!!" so what? lol. Never had a problem with just a few food and a steel titan. I have used yip twice, never liked it. Anyway, I train with stallions. May as well save a few of the pouches and use them....

[Myweponsg00d]

I have never had that graceful majestic animal beside me and thought "Boy, if only this was a lower level familiar."

 

 

 

And also...

 

 

also this doesnt drain stats, yes i know u have restore but u cant super set then and at zammy sharks are more popular to begin with so if u used sharks its better and if u used brews its cheaper and keeps u potted up meaning faster kills even tho it only heals about 85% as much

 

This wins. Great idea really. Everyone thinks healing is healing but if you use this method (over brews) to heal you can end up doing much more damage due to potted stats.

 

 

 

PS Uni is good for dharoking.

[Golvellius]

Summoning potions are useless.

 

They were made obselete when failure version #1 of summoning turned into failure version #2.

 

Unicorns have very limited uses.

 

It can only heal you 13 or 14 and the bar runs out after like 3 or 4 clicks and you can't take it to the fight caves.

 

Food and guthans is preferable to it.

 

 

 

You are useless. Unicorns heal 21 hp/minute for an expense that, as I have said many times previously, is negligible. They last longer than bunyips. They provide enough healing to stay basically anywhere except high-damage GWDs as long as you have pouches. Each dose of potion restores 15 special move points, meaning you can pay 1k (the price of a potion) to get 42 hitpoints worth of healing. Not to mention the generous natural regeneration of points. Guthans slows you down considerably, and no food heals 42 hitpoints/space.

 

 

 

I got 88 summon... the only place I've used unicorn so far is at God Wars... and I would have used it at DK's but everyone who was going ended up having something else to do :S

 

 

 

Summoning points are only required to resummon familiars or use a familiars right click option (right-click fireball on Forge Regent takes summon points, so I would assume the same for the poison cure on a unicorn).

 

 

 

To be honest though, I usually have been using guthans and combat familiars for almost everything slayer, though. I'm planning on switching that off to SGS and combat familiars when I can, though. Combat familiars are something I find more useful for almost every assignment in multi-combat, and those that aren't in multicombat, a bunyip usually is more than enough. The only place I'll really use unicorn is at Wyverns, Waterfiends, or KBD soloing (well... not really soloing -- helping my friend get charms on his summon tank XD)... or at DK's, GW's, and those bosses....

 

 

 

But yeah, you don't use it anywhere. But for the common person that does God Wars -- it owns.

 

 

 

You don't seem to have read the first post either. SUMMONING POTIONS RESTORE SPECIAL MOVE ENERGY ALLOWING YOU TO USE SCROLLS MORE FREQUENTLY. The potions restore 15 points each, meaning 4 doses gives you enough to cast the special 3 times - but you don't need to sip very frequently because of the natural regeneration. You can use guthans if you want but it is unreliable and slows you down because the spear sucks. The saradomin godsword is useful but it heals about as much hp/minute as a bunyip... it's nice but not enough if you are doing something where you take a lot of damage. Just because you don't use the unicorn everywhere it is useful does not mean it is useless.

 

 

 

The restorations of a summoning pot is either 5 ot 10 (think it's 10). But as you may know, one scroll of the elemental titan/Unicorn Stallion takes 20 special points, so if it restores 10, then you need 2 doeses for just one 14 hp heal (with unicorn) with 99 hp. and then it comes to around 1k each seeing as the scrolls are around 240 gp each preciously metioned.

 

 

 

The restoration is 15. 4 doses (a cost of 1k) will give you 3 specials (a cost of 750 gp), creating a cost of 583 per scroll IF SPECIAL MOVE DID NOT RECHARGE ON ITS OWN. However, it does so the cost is much less (at mithril dragons I use about a dose of summoning potion every 7 minutes, meaning I need to drink a dose of potion for about one in every 11 specials). This means in reality each scroll costs about 275 gp to use at mithril dragons. However, mithril dragons are a much higher damage area than most places. On an average slayer task, no summoning potions are needed whatsoever.

 

 

 

Anyone who says guthans is better than a unicorn is saying that something that is slow and unreliable and not usable in many situations is superior to something that takes no effort or time to use and can be used basically anywhere.

 

 

 

The "too expensive" argument is completely invalid as well. In a summer of camping godwars dungeon and slayer I used about 5k scrolls, for a grand cost of less than 800k. I made hundreds of millions. I could make that 800k in less than 2 hours of runecrafting astrals (someone with 44 runecrafting could make it in under 4 hours doing nature runes) and it definitely saved me many many more hours than that.

 

 

 

Combat for you must be an adventure in reptitive clicking and watching your guy stand around like a dullard in confusion.

 

Monster hits you.

 

You scream "Time out! I have to drink my summoning pot a couple of times then click over on my summoning tab and then click the special".

 

Then 5 seconds later the pony makes sparkles and you go "okay ready".

 

Just chug sara brews if you like to waste all your combat rounds sipping pots and fiddling with summons for practically nothing.

 

 

 

TIP: SGS + guthans is for the pros, ponies are for the weak.

[Myweponsg00d]

 

 

 

Combat for you must be an adventure in reptitive clicking and watching your guy stand around like a dullard in confusion.

 

Monster hits you.

 

You scream "Time out! I have to drink my summoning pot a couple of times then click over on my summoning tab and then click the special".

 

Then 5 seconds later the pony makes sparkles and you go "okay ready".

 

Just chug sara brews if you like to waste all your combat rounds sipping pots and fiddling with summons for practically nothing.

 

 

 

TIP: SGS + guthans is for the pros, ponies are for the weak.

 

 

 

The dumbest part about your post is that it is entirely contradictory to itself. First of all, drinking potions causes NO DELAY in combat if you time it properly. Second of all, the unicorn special also causes absolutely no delay in combat. Thirdly, if you are being damaged hard enough that you can't wait 3 rounds of combat every time you want to heal 14 (time enough to take 2 doses of potion and then take the uni special, which by the way gives 10 left over special points) then chances are you aren't going to want to take out your guthans and hope to get a special in time. Also guthans has inferior attack stats to anything you would normally be using. So basically, by using potions and healing specials, you get no delay in attacking. By using guthans you need to take off your main weapon (AND your black mask...AND any strength boosting legs or body), losing some attacking power until your special happens to heal you.

 

 

 

Yeah, its clear now that attacking relentlessly is way weaker than pulling out your guthans. Thanks for clearing that up. :roll:

[Artemis1330]

A few months after summon came out and enough people accessed the higher level healers, guthans crashed. Guthans is old, inferior. And FYI, I have only had one time when I had to heal faster then my stallion spec bar could go back up, and that is at armadyl. Try using guthans there. For all other applications(sara gwd, even bandos gwd, dks, slayer, etc) The spec bar goes up faster then you will need to heal.

 

 

 

trembake is just a player stuck in his/her old ways of "hmm I need hp, time to whip out guthans."

[bedman]

A few months after summon came out and enough people accessed the higher level healers, guthans crashed. Guthans is old, inferior. And FYI, I have only had one time when I had to heal faster then my stallion spec bar could go back up, and that is at armadyl. Try using guthans there. For all other applications(sara gwd, even bandos gwd, dks, slayer, etc) The spec bar goes up faster then you will need to heal.

 

 

 

trembake is just a player stuck in his/her old ways of "hmm I need hp, time to whip out guthans."

 

 

 

I dont know how you DK but when I am solo maging, without SGS and Guthan, I have troubles surviving just on my unicorn (90 def). With sgs, it's better, but still, if those spynops get some lucky hits, it can get hard at times. (gear: verac, not praying + nooby granite shield)