god pages

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man...i wish i could rip pages back out...i see people buying zammy pages for 3m+ each in w2....i would b rich

[BabyPunchers]

It's amazing that a full Unholy book is like 15m-20m now. I remember buying them all for 1m and thinking about how much i got ripped off.

 

 

 

And if you could rip out pages, you realise that they would plummet right xxxgod? You wouldn't be rich.

[Blutters]

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They never updated it.

 

I beg to differ, since it's clear that the metallic canes were never released with the pages. Yet, they've clearly been added to the Prayer guide.

 

I did a large investigation and took data from many higher-leveled Slayers and clue-goers. If you wish to do the same, go ahead, but I won't argue this point with you any longer.

 

 

 

Just like with 3rd age, right?

 

No one gets it, must not be get-able from cluescrolls.

 

 

 

Jagex updates the Kbase the same day as an update, or maybe a day later at max. Iv seen it happen with the PvP updates. Jagex just doesnt 'forget' to update it. They dont lie in the kbase anyway; what good would that do them? They want to EDUCATE players, not lie to them about something so trivial as to how to obtain an item. This would just make it more rare anyway, which is what Jagex is AGAINST.

 

 

 

And, if you have all this time to compile data from high level players (who says only high levels can have level 3 clues anyway? I thought ALL clues could get you god pages?) then you MUST have time to post it all here, cause Id love to see it. And either way, all your poor-guided statics would show me is that they are very rare.

 

 

 

Your not going to argue this point any longer because your argument is invalid, and wrong.

 

prove him wrong.

 

he is correct untill proven incorrect

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What?

 

 

[ August 14, 2008 ]

 

http://news.runescape.com/newsitem.ws?id=1172

 

15th April 2008

 

 

 

mod edit - censored.

 

 

 

While your at it.

 

 

I would have more trust that the first screenshot was legitimate if it wasn't clear that you are just trying to troll/insult me.

 

The link really doesn't have any relevancy either...

 

It's easy to edit a picture. It's easy for me to say things. We need JaGEx.

[ghoulmeister]

It's amazing that a full Unholy book is like 15m-20m now. I remember buying them all for 1m and thinking about how much i got ripped off.

 

 

 

And if you could rip out pages, you realise that they would plummet right xxxgod? You wouldn't be rich.

 

 

 

Not if you were fast...

[BloodArgon]

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They never updated it.

 

I beg to differ, since it's clear that the metallic canes were never released with the pages. Yet, they've clearly been added to the Prayer guide.

 

I did a large investigation and took data from many higher-leveled Slayers and clue-goers. If you wish to do the same, go ahead, but I won't argue this point with you any longer.

 

 

 

Just like with 3rd age, right?

 

No one gets it, must not be get-able from cluescrolls.

 

 

 

Jagex updates the Kbase the same day as an update, or maybe a day later at max. Iv seen it happen with the PvP updates. Jagex just doesnt 'forget' to update it. They dont lie in the kbase anyway; what good would that do them? They want to EDUCATE players, not lie to them about something so trivial as to how to obtain an item. This would just make it more rare anyway, which is what Jagex is AGAINST.

 

 

 

And, if you have all this time to compile data from high level players (who says only high levels can have level 3 clues anyway? I thought ALL clues could get you god pages?) then you MUST have time to post it all here, cause Id love to see it. And either way, all your poor-guided statics would show me is that they are very rare.

 

 

 

Your not going to argue this point any longer because your argument is invalid, and wrong.

 

prove him wrong.

 

he is correct untill proven incorrect

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What?

 

 

[ August 14, 2008 ]

 

http://news.runescape.com/newsitem.ws?id=1172

 

15th April 2008

 

 

 

Kiss. My. [wagon].

 

 

 

While your at it.

 

 

I would have more trust that the first screenshot was legitimate if it wasn't clear that you are just trying to troll/insult me.

 

 

 

I just dislike your arrogance greatly.

 

"I have proof that you cant get them from scrolls but I cant waste time to post it here, so Im not arguing"

 

Thats pretty much flame-bait. You asked for it.

 

 

 

And troll? My post count is quadruple yours.

 

 

 

I would have more trust that the first screenshot was legitimate if it wasn't clear that you are just trying to troll/insult me.

 

The link really doesn't have any relevancy either...

 

It's easy to edit a picture. It's easy for me to say things. We need JaGEx.

 

 

 

You already called Jagex a liar.

 

And the link is to prove that the picture was taken after the clue scroll updates came out.

 

Want more proof?

 

 

 

[DarkDude]

You can't always trust the KB, for a long long time they listed Wizard boots as a level 1 clue reward when they're level 2.

 

 

 

And stop the flaming, if it continues I'll have to lock it.

 

 

 

Edit: also to the above picture, why was it last modified in March 2008? :s

[BloodArgon]

You can't always trust the KB, for a long long time they listed Wizard boots as a level 1 clue reward when they're level 2.

 

 

 

And stop the flaming, if it continues I'll have to lock it.

 

 

 

Edit: also to the above picture, why was it last modified in March 2008? :s

 

 

 

Most likely a name change, either way, march is before april...

[Omar]

Cause people had more of a chance to hoard rares and make profit off them while getting god pages isn't as common.

 

Wasn't as common. You could get pages fairly often before the update. Now they cost ridiculous amounts of money.

[DarkDude]

You can't always trust the KB, for a long long time they listed Wizard boots as a level 1 clue reward when they're level 2.

 

 

 

And stop the flaming, if it continues I'll have to lock it.

 

 

 

Edit: also to the above picture, why was it last modified in March 2008? :s

 

 

 

Most likely a name change, either way, march is before april...

 

 

 

If you did get it in March then it proves nothing, Legacy of Seergaze came out on the 22nd of April, a week after the Treasure trail update where I personally haven't had a god page.

[BloodArgon]

You can't always trust the KB, for a long long time they listed Wizard boots as a level 1 clue reward when they're level 2.

 

 

 

And stop the flaming, if it continues I'll have to lock it.

 

 

 

Edit: also to the above picture, why was it last modified in March 2008? :s

 

 

 

Most likely a name change, either way, march is before april...

 

 

 

If you did get it in March then it proves nothing, Legacy of Seergaze came out on the 22nd of April, a week after the Treasure trail update where I personally haven't had a god page.

 

 

 

Now you have ME confused. How can a file be modified before it was created?

 

Im going to go off the creation date, since the computer is making no sense.

[DarkDude]

You can't always trust the KB, for a long long time they listed Wizard boots as a level 1 clue reward when they're level 2.

 

 

 

And stop the flaming, if it continues I'll have to lock it.

 

 

 

Edit: also to the above picture, why was it last modified in March 2008? :s

 

 

 

Most likely a name change, either way, march is before april...

 

 

 

If you did get it in March then it proves nothing, Legacy of Seergaze came out on the 22nd of April, a week after the Treasure trail update where I personally haven't had a god page.

 

 

 

Now you have ME confused. How can a file be modified before it was created?

 

Im going to go off the creation date, since the computer is making no sense.

 

 

 

I don't know, it's your file not mine. Maybe you copied it or something to give it a new creation date but old modification date?

[BloodArgon]

You can't always trust the KB, for a long long time they listed Wizard boots as a level 1 clue reward when they're level 2.

 

 

 

And stop the flaming, if it continues I'll have to lock it.

 

 

 

Edit: also to the above picture, why was it last modified in March 2008? :s

 

 

 

Most likely a name change, either way, march is before april...

 

 

 

If you did get it in March then it proves nothing, Legacy of Seergaze came out on the 22nd of April, a week after the Treasure trail update where I personally haven't had a god page.

 

 

 

Now you have ME confused. How can a file be modified before it was created?

 

Im going to go off the creation date, since the computer is making no sense.

 

 

 

I don't know, it's your file not mine. Maybe you copied it or something to give it a new creation date but old modification date?

 

 

 

Id dont even know how thats possible, as far as I know, its not possible to change the creation date, the only way I could modify is like that was to go and change the date and modify, and then revert the date, so it appears modified before the creation date, but why would I do that? Creates complications, mis-trust of my proof, and the fact that it was created still proves my point.

[DarkDude]

 

 

 

Id dont even know how thats possible, as far as I know, its not possible to change the creation date, the only way I could modify is like that was to go and change the date and modify, and then revert the date, so it appears modified before the creation date, but why would I do that? Creates complications, mis-trust of my proof, and the fact that it was created still proves my point.

 

 

 

I just tested it, I had a file that was created/modfied on 15th November.

 

 

 

I copied it and pasted it somewhere else.

 

 

 

Modified was still 15th, created was 24th. Problem solved, your picture is from March.

[ghoulmeister]

You can't always trust the KB, for a long long time they listed Wizard boots as a level 1 clue reward when they're level 2.

 

 

 

And stop the flaming, if it continues I'll have to lock it.

 

 

 

Edit: also to the above picture, why was it last modified in March 2008? :s

 

 

 

Most likely a name change, either way, march is before april...

 

 

 

If you did get it in March then it proves nothing, Legacy of Seergaze came out on the 22nd of April, a week after the Treasure trail update where I personally haven't had a god page.

 

 

 

Now you have ME confused. How can a file be modified before it was created?

 

Im going to go off the creation date, since the computer is making no sense.

 

 

 

There have been disputes like this before. Usually it culminates into the person who had the picture admitting that it was from another source, and that the creation date was the day the file was attached to that specific computer's harddrive. Usually some sort of bug in the file itself causes this.

[BloodArgon]

You can't always trust the KB, for a long long time they listed Wizard boots as a level 1 clue reward when they're level 2.

 

 

 

And stop the flaming, if it continues I'll have to lock it.

 

 

 

Edit: also to the above picture, why was it last modified in March 2008? :s

 

 

 

Most likely a name change, either way, march is before april...

 

 

 

If you did get it in March then it proves nothing, Legacy of Seergaze came out on the 22nd of April, a week after the Treasure trail update where I personally haven't had a god page.

 

 

 

Now you have ME confused. How can a file be modified before it was created?

 

Im going to go off the creation date, since the computer is making no sense.

 

 

 

There have been disputes like this before. Usually it culminates into the person who had the picture admitting that it was from another source, and that the creation date was the day the file was attached to that specific computer's harddrive. Usually some sort of bug in the file itself causes this.

 

 

 

All I can say is that the picture is from my harddrive.

 

Either way, Iv yet to see proof that they have been removed from the cluescrolls.

 

An average person would think that 3rd age isnt available through cluescrolls because they havn't gotten it, when in reality its very rare.

 

 

 

So with all these new items, they are probably just very rare.

 

 

 

This is not the american legal system. You cant just make a claim and be right until proven wrong. Its like me saying you can get a phat from burning magic logs. You say Im wrong, and all I have to do is say that there is no proof against it, and my argument is bulletproof.

 

 

 

Until you provide proof that you CANNOT get them, then they are still obtainable. The Kbase is just another part of the proof that they exists.

[DarkDude]

I've not had one myself, I don't know anyone who's had one. in the clue threads there's not been a single picture of one yet multiple pictures of 3rd age.

 

 

 

They've been removed from clues.

[Blutters]

I've not had one myself, I don't know anyone who's had one. in the clue threads there's not been a single picture of one yet multiple pictures of 3rd age.

 

 

 

They've been removed from clues.

 

That was the deductive reasoning I used as well...

[BloodArgon]

I've not had one myself, I don't know anyone who's had one. in the clue threads there's not been a single picture of one yet multiple pictures of 3rd age.

 

 

 

They've been removed from clues.

 

That was the deductive reasoning I used as well...

 

 

 

There are over 1 million paid subscribers.

 

One, two, three, even four fansites do not cover the entire population by ANY means.

 

 

 

Not to mention people only post level 3 clues, while godpages are obtained by ALL levels of clues. Probably a bigger chance to get them on a lesser clue because there is a smaller range of rewards.

[Randox]

I feel I should point out it is fundamentaly immposible to prove that you can no longer get god pages from clues because that would reqire a test sample of infinity. Thus teh logical approch is to assume that you can't get the god pages until you have proof otherwise. This is because while you can not prove that you can't get god pages, you can prove that you can. So again, assume they are no longer available as clue rewards until you have proof otherwise.

 

 

 

And the next person who says prove you can't get god pages from clues should be backhanded and slaped for asking an immpossible question and expecting a response.

 

 

 

As a side note, since I belive Jagex knowingly removed the god pages so we could get more fabulously [cabbage]ty rewards, I think Jagex can and should go [bleep] themselves, think about what they did, and fix it. I wan't god pages not [cabbage] I cant sell or use for a practical purpose. Seriously, I have more use for firelights than I do for canes and masks that are ugly as sin.

[Makoto_the_Phoenix]

I've not had one myself, I don't know anyone who's had one. in the clue threads there's not been a single picture of one yet multiple pictures of 3rd age.

 

 

 

They've been removed from clues.

 

That was the deductive reasoning I used as well...

 

That deductive reasoning could be applied to Shield Left Halves, too -- no one has posted a drop of those in a while, and they're exponentially rare, but does that mean that they're never dropped?

 

 

 

More or less, I'm inclined to believe the official source on this, which is Jagex. I'll admit that the KB isn't always correct, but the information you get from them is typically 99% correct.

 

 

 

I feel I should point out it is fundamentaly immposible to prove that you can no longer get god pages from clues because that would reqire a test sample of infinity.

 

 

 

Not a test sample of infinity, but a test sample to match the odds (e.g. If the odds are behaving like 1 in 65536, you'd need 65536 people to do the test, and based on odds, one should get a page, but that's not guaranteed, OR, you can have one person do 65536 trials (yeah freaking right)).

[BloodArgon]

I feel I should point out it is fundamentaly immposible to prove that you can no longer get god pages from clues because that would reqire a test sample of infinity. Thus teh logical approch is to assume that you can't get the god pages until you have proof otherwise. This is because while you can not prove that you can't get god pages, you can prove that you can. So again, assume they are no longer available as clue rewards until you have proof otherwise.

 

 

 

And the next person who says prove you can't get god pages from clues should be backhanded and slaped for asking an immpossible question and expecting a response.

 

 

 

As a side note, since I belive Jagex knowingly removed the god pages so we could get more fabulously [cabbage] rewards, I think Jagex can and should go [bleep] themselves, think about what they did, and fix it. I wan't god pages not [cabbage] I cant sell or use for a practical purpose. Seriously, I have more use for firelights than I do for canes and masks that are ugly as sin.

 

 

 

But how can you make that accusation with no proof? The person who said they were removed said he had studies, with hard data, and he cant produce them for me.

[DarkDude]

I feel I should point out it is fundamentaly immposible to prove that you can no longer get god pages from clues because that would reqire a test sample of infinity. Thus teh logical approch is to assume that you can't get the god pages until you have proof otherwise. This is because while you can not prove that you can't get god pages, you can prove that you can. So again, assume they are no longer available as clue rewards until you have proof otherwise.

 

 

 

And the next person who says prove you can't get god pages from clues should be backhanded and slaped for asking an immpossible question and expecting a response.

 

 

 

As a side note, since I belive Jagex knowingly removed the god pages so we could get more fabulously [cabbage] rewards, I think Jagex can and should go [bleep] themselves, think about what they did, and fix it. I wan't god pages not [cabbage] I cant sell or use for a practical purpose. Seriously, I have more use for firelights than I do for canes and masks that are ugly as sin.

 

 

 

But how can you make that accusation with no proof? The person who said they were removed said he had studies, with hard data, and he cant produce them for me.

 

 

 

Gravity is a theory and until it's proven false then it's going to be accepted that gravity does exist. The same is true for most, if not all scientific theories.

 

 

 

The same is applied here, the theory is that you can no long get god pages from clues, we have "evidence" that this is true but this is not conclusive evidence. You have NO evidence that you CAN get god pages from clues.

[BloodArgon]

I feel I should point out it is fundamentaly immposible to prove that you can no longer get god pages from clues because that would reqire a test sample of infinity. Thus teh logical approch is to assume that you can't get the god pages until you have proof otherwise. This is because while you can not prove that you can't get god pages, you can prove that you can. So again, assume they are no longer available as clue rewards until you have proof otherwise.

 

 

 

And the next person who says prove you can't get god pages from clues should be backhanded and slaped for asking an immpossible question and expecting a response.

 

 

 

As a side note, since I belive Jagex knowingly removed the god pages so we could get more fabulously [cabbage] rewards, I think Jagex can and should go [bleep] themselves, think about what they did, and fix it. I wan't god pages not [cabbage] I cant sell or use for a practical purpose. Seriously, I have more use for firelights than I do for canes and masks that are ugly as sin.

 

 

 

But how can you make that accusation with no proof? The person who said they were removed said he had studies, with hard data, and he cant produce them for me.

 

 

 

Gravity is a theory and until it's proven false then it's going to be accepted that gravity does exist. The same is true for most, if not all scientific theories.

 

 

 

The same is applied here, the theory is that you can no long get god pages from clues, we have "evidence" that this is true but this is not conclusive evidence. You have NO evidence that you CAN get god pages from clues.

 

 

 

No gravity is a fact, because it can be proven.

 

If you let go of something in mid air, its going to fall.

[Makoto_the_Phoenix]

Gravity is a theory and until it's proven false then it's going to be accepted that gravity does exist. The same is true for most, if not all scientific theories.

 

 

 

The same is applied here, the theory is that you can no long get god pages from clues, we have "evidence" that this is true but this is not conclusive evidence. You have NO evidence that you CAN get god pages from clues.

 

So the objective here then is to prove that you can still get God pages from clues?

 

 

 

21-22-90-57941573 <- Forum Mod post

 

Treasure Trail Guide, third paragraph

 

 

 

Keep in mind that a lot of players could be having a really, really, really bad patch of luck. That's what happens with pesudo-random generators.

[DarkDude]

 

No gravity is a fact, because it can be proven.

 

If you let go of something in mid air, its going to fall.

 

 

 

It's a fact that if you let go of something in mid air it will fall to earth. But why isn't a fact, it's a theory. Tomorrow someone could come along and prove that gravity doesn't really exist because of x and that instead it's theory y that's causing things to fall to earth.

 

 

 

Makoto, as I've already stated in this thread the KB has been wrong before. That is not proof, proof would be someone getting one from a clue in game since April 22nd. Find me one person who has with a legit picture and I'll believe you. Forum mods no nothing more than we do.