Cannonballs / Hour

[Fekambard]

Ok, simple question really.

 

How many cannonballs an hour can I do and what is the closest furnace to bank area? I cannot use edge furnace as I havent done diary.

 

I do have 260qp.

 

 

 

I want to get from 58 -> 70smithing. This means I need to turn 20k steel bars into cannonballs.

 

 

 

Any ideas on how many steel bars I can smelt into cannonballs in an hour?

 

And whats the best spot for me to do it in?

[Bashful]

i dont think the varrock armour helps in cannonball smelting...

 

 

 

al kharid is good, port phasmatys is closer.. but its kinda boring.

[Fekambard]

I heard Neitiznot is quite close too, also any idea on how many steel bars I can use in 1 hour on average?

[Fekambard]

Never knew this was such a puzzling question or people are just lazy... :(

[ultimatballr]

I don't know how many bars per hour (even though I have done 20k bars before, never kept track)

 

 

 

I do know that Nietz is better than Port P. They are kinda the same distance away but you don't waste time with the door.

[compfreak847]

Nezitnot is VERY slightly faster, but is kind of a pain with the smaller smith. 104 cannonballs\26 bars takes 3:49 (http://n0valyfe.freehostia.com/timing_guide.txt), or 8.8 seconds per bar, for a total of 409 bars per hour. Banking time included. Smith something else, seriously...

[Fekambard]

Good idea.

[Skilling0wn]

I heard it was something close to 12k exp/hour. :ohnoes:

[compfreak847]

I heard it was something close to 12k exp/hour. :ohnoes:

 

25.5 X .409 = 10,429.5 XP\hour. EW.

[Skilling0wn]

I heard it was something close to 12k exp/hour. :ohnoes:

 

25.5 X .409 = 10,429.5 XP\hour. EW.

 

 

 

Wicked, Just wicked. :o :shock: :? 8-) :lol: :-# :thumbsup: Its true :^o

[compfreak847]

I heard it was something close to 12k exp/hour. :ohnoes:

 

25.5 X .409 = 10,429.5 XP\hour. EW.

 

 

 

Wicked, Just wicked. :o :shock: :? 8-) :lol: :-# :thumbsup: Its true :^o

 

Wicked? :?

 

 

 

As a comparison, I smith addy arrowtips with SC tools @ a loss of 136k per hour, which takes 13.6 minutes to earn at avansies, and nets 125k XP\hour. Therefore, in comparison to cannonballs, I can get the same profit with roughly 8 times the XP\hour. There is no reason whatsoever to EVER do cannonballs.

[chaosoffar]

I heard it was something close to 12k exp/hour. :ohnoes:

 

25.5 X .409 = 10,429.5 XP\hour. EW.

 

 

 

Wicked, Just wicked. :o :shock: :? 8-) :lol: :-# :thumbsup: Its true :^o

 

Wicked? :?

 

 

 

As a comparison, I smith addy arrowtips with SC tools @ a loss of 136k per hour, which takes 13.6 minutes to earn at avansies, and nets 125k XP\hour. Therefore, in comparison to cannonballs, I can get the same profit with roughly 8 times the XP\hour. There is no reason whatsoever to EVER do cannonballs.

 

Hey now, we need someone to make them for us. Certainly don't wanna make my own :lol:.

[Master_Smither]

It's 12.5K xp/hr which is 500 steel bars which is 2k c balls.

[compfreak847]

It's 12.5K xp/hr which is 500 steel bars which is 2k c balls.

 

No it's not. It's a max of 409 bars an hour, as time by n0valyfe. Someone apparently did a rough timing of cannonballs, rounded it up to 500, and threw it out there as a 'fact'. It's always been parroted, but the reality is significantly worse then that.

[M6c_Magnum]

It's 12.5K xp/hr which is 500 steel bars which is 2k c balls.

 

No it's not. It's a max of 409 bars an hour, as time by n0valyfe. Someone apparently did a rough timing of cannonballs, rounded it up to 500, and threw it out there as a 'fact'. It's always been parroted, but the reality is significantly worse then that.

 

lol @ you saying the Master Smither with 99 smithing is incorrect and that some dude who hasn't play in like 2 years is more correct

[compfreak847]

It's 12.5K xp/hr which is 500 steel bars which is 2k c balls.

 

No it's not. It's a max of 409 bars an hour, as time by n0valyfe. Someone apparently did a rough timing of cannonballs, rounded it up to 500, and threw it out there as a 'fact'. It's always been parroted, but the reality is significantly worse then that.

 

lol @ you saying the Master Smither with 99 smithing is incorrect and that some dude who hasn't play in like 2 years is more correct

 

Yup. I'm saying that 'some dude', a dude with 99 smithing, a dude known to be THE most efficient player in runescape, a dude that got every single level to 99 in under 2 years, a dude that spent days trying to obtain perfect timings, a dude that measured the time to fractions of a second is more exact then master_smither's generalization. I'm glad to see I provided a little humor.

[M6c_Magnum]

It's 12.5K xp/hr which is 500 steel bars which is 2k c balls.

 

No it's not. It's a max of 409 bars an hour, as time by n0valyfe. Someone apparently did a rough timing of cannonballs, rounded it up to 500, and threw it out there as a 'fact'. It's always been parroted, but the reality is significantly worse then that.

 

lol @ you saying the Master Smither with 99 smithing is incorrect and that some dude who hasn't play in like 2 years is more correct

 

Yup. I'm saying that 'some dude', a dude with 99 smithing, a dude known to be THE most efficient player in runescape, a dude that got every single level to 99 in under 2 years, a dude that spent days trying to obtain perfect timings, a dude that measured the time to fractions of a second is more exact then master_smither's generalization. I'm glad to see I provided a little humor.

 

Just went and looked at the link...

 

 

 

A dude that has over half of his timings completely wrong (slower than necessary) :lol:

[compfreak847]

It's 12.5K xp/hr which is 500 steel bars which is 2k c balls.

 

No it's not. It's a max of 409 bars an hour, as time by n0valyfe. Someone apparently did a rough timing of cannonballs, rounded it up to 500, and threw it out there as a 'fact'. It's always been parroted, but the reality is significantly worse then that.

 

lol @ you saying the Master Smither with 99 smithing is incorrect and that some dude who hasn't play in like 2 years is more correct

 

Yup. I'm saying that 'some dude', a dude with 99 smithing, a dude known to be THE most efficient player in runescape, a dude that got every single level to 99 in under 2 years, a dude that spent days trying to obtain perfect timings, a dude that measured the time to fractions of a second is more exact then master_smither's generalization. I'm glad to see I provided a little humor.

 

Just went and looked at the link...

 

 

 

A dude that has over half of his timings completely wrong (slower than necessary) :lol:

 

Feel free to begin naming them. Until then, I have to assume you didn't read his page thoroughly. #1, he includes banking\running\teleing\EVERYTHING time. #2, some of the methods have been updated in the past 2 years. Cannonballs isn't one of them.

 

 

 

If your accepting master smither's value as exact, I'm curious as to how he got EXACTLY 500 cannonballs per hour. He must be very regular in his banking, because that's an awfully round number for a calculation precises to 4 significant digits. Exactly 500.0 cannonballs per hour, averaged over a long period of testing, is rather astounding.

[Mast3rPK]

i believe u can make 600+ cannon balls an hour using edgeville

 

if you did the quest ghost ahoy u can use bank there which is next to furnace to

 

cannonbaallls is one of the slowest ways if u dont care about money cost 2mil for 70 fast doin

 

gold bars with smithing guants thats what i did :thumbsup:

[Mast3rPK]

ooo ya its around 12-16kxp an hour very slow

 

but makes u some money

[compfreak847]

i believe u can make 600+ cannon balls an hour using edgeville

 

if you did the quest ghost ahoy u can use bank there which is next to furnace to

 

cannonbaallls is one of the slowest ways if u dont care about money cost 2mil for 70 fast doin

 

gold bars with smithing guants thats what i did :thumbsup:

 

You can't. Edgville is very slightly faster if your paying CLOSE attention, significantly slower if your not like most of the RS population. It's a max of 409 at Ghost Ahoy, and around 420-430 at edge. 600+ cannonballs = 150 bars, your numbers are off by a factor of 3.

 

 

 

ooo ya its around 12-16kxp an hour very slow

 

but makes u some money

 

Try 10.4k XP\hour. About 1/8th the speed you can get for free with other smithing methods. So yes, it makes money if you make a maximum of 12k GP per hour. Otherwise, your losing massive amounts of time and money using cannonballs.

[Mast3rPK]

Gold ore to gold bars loses a lot of money

 

 

 

if u were on task wouldn't u get around 500 cannonballs made or so

 

if u have no distractions :?:

[M6c_Magnum]

Feel free to begin naming them. Until then, I have to assume you didn't read his page thoroughly. #1, he includes banking\running\teleing\EVERYTHING time. #2, some of the methods have been updated in the past 2 years. Cannonballs isn't one of them.

 

 

 

If your accepting master smither's value as exact, I'm curious as to how he got EXACTLY 500 cannonballs per hour. He must be very regular in his banking, because that's an awfully round number for a calculation precises to 4 significant digits. Exactly 500.0 cannonballs per hour, averaged over a long period of testing, is rather astounding.

 

Sure:

 

The entire FIREMAKING/WOODCUTTING cutting is incorrect. The amount of logs depends on woodcutting level and luck, and so does the average time per inventory. I average closer to 2 minutes to get an inventory of willows.

 

Using the reverse-firmaking method, you can burn over 1.5k logs in 1 hour. He claims that you can only get 1.1k, which isn't even maximum or average the regular burning methods. (reverse has been around forever, btw)

 

 

 

FLETCHING

 

You can cut and bank 14 bows in under 20 seconds

 

 

 

AGILITY

 

I have completed the wilderness agility course in under 52 seconds many, many times

 

 

 

FISHING/COOKING

 

All of those times for fishing are once again based on level and therefore wrong unless you were the same level as him. I can fish an inventory of lobsters around 5 minutes, average.

 

 

 

RUNECRAFTING

 

Charging glories is definitely faster than 1:52. Not to mention, he doesn't charge 11 like he should

 

 

 

CRAFTING

 

You can tan about 2000 hides in an hour, not 1620

 

 

 

MINING/SMITHING

 

Powermining granite and smithing he suggests is only around 50k xp/hr, while it is over 70k/hr with full effort

 

 

 

HERBLORE

 

Same as fletching

 

 

 

MISC TIMES

 

He has the gem rock respawn time set as 1:52, but this depends 100% on world population

 

 

 

Those are just the ones that I know actual times for, I'm sure there are a ton more incorrect.

 

It is very possible to make 500+ cannonballs in 1 hour.

 

 

 

 

 

And dude, :lol:

 

Just because 409 is not as exact as 500 doesn't mean that it is a more reliable number.

 

Master Smither was rounding down, he actually averaged 501.36222 (repeating) cannonballs per hour. Does that make it 100% more believable? :lol:

[compfreak847]

@ Firemaking: Reverse hasn't been widely known for a long time

 

@ Woodcutting: That's for Draynor Village, with a rune axe. Obviously improvements like CW banking and dragon axes have resulted in faster times

 

@ Agility: I average closer to 54 seconds, or 63.5k XP\hour at wilderness. That's very high. 65k is generally considered the max for steady training.

 

@ Fishing: Yes, it's level dependent

 

@ Runecrafting: Without games necklace it is

 

@ Crafting: Not sure, he could be wrong on that. I haven't tested in a long time.

 

@ Mining: No, he's right. I averaged just under 47k XP\hour powertraining.

 

@ Gems: Yes, it does depend on population.

 

@ Fletching\Herblore: If your talking about cutting bows, your wrong, I've timed them and his are correct. If your talking about stringing bows, that was recently updated.

 

 

 

 

And dude, :lol:

 

Just because 409 is not as exact as 500 doesn't mean that it is a more reliable number.

 

Master Smither was rounding down, he actually averaged 501.36222 (repeating) cannonballs per hour. Does that make it 100% more believable? :lol:

 

Yes, if he gave us actual times per run and showed us his calculations, that would make it more believable. Saying a nice round number like '500 cannonballs' or '1000 alchs' (example) generally means that he saw it somewhere else, and that it is a generalization, not a number he carefully calculated himself, as the chances of it rounding out to exactly 500 while banking are virtually nil.