Dragon Claws

[rangeor]

Everything is compartmentalized in testing. I can use the max hits and hit spreads for godsword vs. whip to determine the average hit when you hit (it's essentially your average between 0 and the max, so my wonderful hit spread charts went to waste :-# )

 

 

 

Basically, all the data I collect at GWD is the hit frequency; everything else can be brought it from other, easier testing sources (Obviously, the hit spread is the same regardless of the monster; already tested that). I also try to draw comparisons; I've found bandos defence very close to a 90-95 defence player in tank gear, so I can extrapolate when my results from there match my GWD numbers for greater overall accuracy; obviously I've tested more PVP then my paltry 6k bandos kills. It all boils down to accuracy; whip is roughly .70-.72 times as accurate as the godsword; with the 1.5 to 1 hit rate, we get higher overall accuracy coupled with the whips overall higher average hit, making for more DPM.

 

After reading quite a few of your posts arguing the whip is better I think this is the one that finally convinced me that you're right.

[xSxqPowerx]

Whip is not better for soloing bandos. It just isn't.

[compfreak847]

Whip is not better for soloing bandos. It just isn't.

 

 

 

Soloing can be argued both ways, the +8 prayer and easier prayer switching really helps. But team bandos is the main form, and the most profitable; there the whips superior damage + the less frugal prayer\food makes it better.

[SirHartlar]

I meant the GE price, I don't have any junk so I can't sell them with that if I got a pair from TDs.

[Inuashakent]

It's hard to believe the GS is better at Bandos... but maybe it could be a possibility, I guess... I would have to see some hard proof, though.

[compfreak847]

It's hard to believe the GS is better at Bandos... but maybe it could be a possibility, I guess... I would have to see some hard proof, though.

 

It isn't better, I think that's a typo :lol:

 

 

 

Test it out yourself! I'm not the only one capable of taking a whip to bandos :P

[Fekambard]

It's hard to believe the GS is better at Bandos... but maybe it could be a possibility, I guess... I would have to see some hard proof, though.

 

It isn't better, I think that's a typo :lol:

 

 

 

Test it out yourself! I'm not the only one capable of taking a whip to bandos :P

 

So a whip is better for soloing or in a team, or both?

[compfreak847]

It's hard to believe the GS is better at Bandos... but maybe it could be a possibility, I guess... I would have to see some hard proof, though.

 

It isn't better, I think that's a typo :lol:

 

 

 

Test it out yourself! I'm not the only one capable of taking a whip to bandos :P

 

So a whip is better for soloing or in a team, or both?

 

In a team, a whip is better. Soloing it's more of a (I can't believe I would ever say this) personal thing; godsword has +8 prayer, and you won't lose a defender if you die. Plus, prayer flashing and eating is much easier with a godsword.

[wioneo]

The only real whip vs. gs experience that I have at bandos is from crashing...and I have yet to be in a team that failed to overcome a team of a similar or slightly larger size using whips. I personally tried taking a whip and dfs on a solo attempt and barely finished 1 kill(2 sharks left, and really don't think he was ranging much). I can easily get 2 kills and sometimes up to 3 if I get lucky with specs with a sgs/bgs.

 

 

 

The prayer bonus really doesn't matter much soloing...and how does attack speed effect prayer switching? Unless the prayer that you were flashing was piety, which seems a bit inefficient while soloing...

[compfreak847]

The only real whip vs. gs experience that I have at bandos is from crashing...and I have yet to be in a team that failed to overcome a team of a similar or slightly larger size using whips. I personally tried taking a whip and dfs on a solo attempt and barely finished 1 kill(2 sharks left, and really don't think he was ranging much). I can easily get 2 kills and sometimes up to 3 if I get lucky with specs with a sgs/bgs.

 

 

 

The prayer bonus really doesn't matter much soloing...and how does attack speed effect prayer switching? Unless the prayer that you were flashing was piety, which seems a bit inefficient while soloing...

 

It's possible to piety flash when soloing, prayer bonus helps. The defender loss is also a bummer. DFS is a terrible idea, you HAVE to have that defender bonus.

[wioneo]

The only real whip vs. gs experience that I have at bandos is from crashing...and I have yet to be in a team that failed to overcome a team of a similar or slightly larger size using whips. I personally tried taking a whip and dfs on a solo attempt and barely finished 1 kill(2 sharks left, and really don't think he was ranging much). I can easily get 2 kills and sometimes up to 3 if I get lucky with specs with a sgs/bgs.

 

 

 

The prayer bonus really doesn't matter much soloing...and how does attack speed effect prayer switching? Unless the prayer that you were flashing was piety, which seems a bit inefficient while soloing...

 

It's possible to piety flash when soloing, prayer bonus helps. The defender loss is also a bummer. DFS is a terrible idea, you HAVE to have that defender bonus.

 

 

 

If you flash piety, you are probably going to be synching your flashing with your attacks, so you're giving up the 25% defense while getting hit, most likely. Also, what's the point of flashing(and slowing the drain rate) while you have an increased prayer bonus? A sip or 2 of of ppot between kills is not that much of a hassle...

 

 

 

About the dfs being inferior to a defender, I see your point there, but I seriously doubt that the 20ish accuracy would help me to kill the general in time to stop me from getting 40 more damage while I had 72 less range defense(and 52 less strength bonus).

[compfreak847]

The only real whip vs. gs experience that I have at bandos is from crashing...and I have yet to be in a team that failed to overcome a team of a similar or slightly larger size using whips. I personally tried taking a whip and dfs on a solo attempt and barely finished 1 kill(2 sharks left, and really don't think he was ranging much). I can easily get 2 kills and sometimes up to 3 if I get lucky with specs with a sgs/bgs.

 

 

 

The prayer bonus really doesn't matter much soloing...and how does attack speed effect prayer switching? Unless the prayer that you were flashing was piety, which seems a bit inefficient while soloing...

 

It's possible to piety flash when soloing, prayer bonus helps. The defender loss is also a bummer. DFS is a terrible idea, you HAVE to have that defender bonus.

 

 

 

If you flash piety, you are probably going to be synching your flashing with your attacks, so you're giving up the 25% defense while getting hit, most likely. Also, what's the point of flashing(and slowing the drain rate) while you have an increased prayer bonus? A sip or 2 of of ppot between kills is not that much of a hassle...

 

 

 

About the dfs being inferior to a defender, I see your point there, but I seriously doubt that the 20ish accuracy would help me to kill the general in time to stop me from getting 40 more damage while I had 72 less range defense(and 52 less strength bonus).

 

The defender bonus is basically a requirement anytime your meleeing, it has a huge effect on the acuracy thanks to the whip's high speed. Prayer flashing is generally used in teams, sometimes when soloing.