March 6, 200917 yr To be honest, no one who merchants will gain any sympathy from me about the money they lose. This website and its contents are copyright © 1999 - 2010 Jagex Ltd.
March 6, 200917 yr What I think should be done is "dynamic caps": instead of saying you can buy X y times in 4 hours, wouldn't this work better? You can buy up to 2.5% + 1 of the previous day's total trade every day. - So for example coal you can buy 250K daily... Yet godswords (etc) which are trade only like 1000 daily you can buy 26 daily... This limit would prevent any person to completely control the market.. Also Ge shouldn't be based on completed offers, but instead also based on the incomplete offers: THIS, is the basic that causes why those manipulator clans work, and THIS is the reason why GE prices get stuck! I never ever sawa reason to base it on completed offers: heck I wrote (in pseudo code) already a way how to calculate accurate prices.. Yet no one ever seems to actually listen... I'm not sure how dynamic caps would help or hurt the situation, but basing prices on uncompleted offers would make it possible to lower the price of an item when it's selling for max. People could just put in massive buy offers for the min price for decent items (gs, claws, etc) and lower the price without spending anything. And then there would be people who would crash markets just for [cabbage]s and giggles.
March 6, 200917 yr What I think should be done is "dynamic caps": instead of saying you can buy X y times in 4 hours, wouldn't this work better? You can buy up to 2.5% + 1 of the previous day's total trade every day. - So for example coal you can buy 250K daily... Yet godswords (etc) which are trade only like 1000 daily you can buy 26 daily... This limit would prevent any person to completely control the market.. Also Ge shouldn't be based on completed offers, but instead also based on the incomplete offers: THIS, is the basic that causes why those manipulator clans work, and THIS is the reason why GE prices get stuck! I never ever sawa reason to base it on completed offers: heck I wrote (in pseudo code) already a way how to calculate accurate prices.. Yet no one ever seems to actually listen... I'm not sure how dynamic caps would help or hurt the situation, but basing prices on uncompleted offers would make it possible to lower the price of an item when it's selling for max. People could just put in massive buy offers for the min price for decent items (gs, claws, etc) and lower the price without spending anything. And then there would be people who would crash markets just for [cabbage] and giggles. Maybe they should finally go ahead and determine the value of each item and lock it in place and do the same for each future item? I'm personally against it, but if it would stop all the complaining... maybe they should go for it. This website and its contents are copyright © 1999 - 2010 Jagex Ltd.
March 8, 200917 yr What I think should be done is "dynamic caps": instead of saying you can buy X y times in 4 hours, wouldn't this work better? You can buy up to 2.5% + 1 of the previous day's total trade every day. - So for example coal you can buy 250K daily... Yet godswords (etc) which are trade only like 1000 daily you can buy 26 daily... This limit would prevent any person to completely control the market.. Also Ge shouldn't be based on completed offers, but instead also based on the incomplete offers: THIS, is the basic that causes why those manipulator clans work, and THIS is the reason why GE prices get stuck! I never ever sawa reason to base it on completed offers: heck I wrote (in pseudo code) already a way how to calculate accurate prices.. Yet no one ever seems to actually listen... I'm not sure how dynamic caps would help or hurt the situation, but basing prices on uncompleted offers would make it possible to lower the price of an item when it's selling for max. People could just put in massive buy offers for the min price for decent items (gs, claws, etc) and lower the price without spending anything. And then there would be people who would crash markets just for [cabbage] and giggles. Uhm of course it shouldn't work like that: Lowering should only happen if there's unspent stock, while raising should only happen if there's too little stock in the GE.. Most of the time! So yes you would theoritically be able to "fake rise" the price of something.. However that would require total control over the market (since as soon as there would be 1 other person who sells the item, you would simply loose a lot of money). I admit this won't fix prices that are "struck": however it will make the GE for healthy items to move faster, more accurate (instead of lagging behind the actually street price for 4-5 market cycles it will only lag for a maximum of 1 market cycle).. And thus prevent the GE from growing out of control, creating new items that can't be sold/bought. First they came to fishingand I didn't speak out because I wasn't fishing Then they came to the yewsand I didn't speak out because I didn't cut yews Then they came for the oresand I didn't speak out because I didn't collect ores Then they came for meand there was no one left to speak out for me.
March 8, 200917 yr Idc about merchanters anymore since the grand exchange update. If I can't buy or sell an item easily, whatever. It's sooooo much easier now than before. My stuff will buy/sell soon.
March 10, 200917 yr Well........... :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :mrgreen: Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012
March 10, 200917 yr Well........... :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :mrgreen: =D> Suggest a poll for Tip.it - Here!
March 10, 200917 yr Jagex can do NOTHING serious about Manipulation clans, as the only way is to lock down on the Ge limits, which are already tough. Now, what you say about how manipulating clans work, isn't completely true. If it's a public channel, like Chessy018, CmRobins and that rubbish, well then, yes, the leader's going to prebuy. If it's a private channel, where you need "X" amount of money to join, and everyone trusts everyone, well then there's no prebuying. The members sometimes will dicuss what item to buyout next, which means there isn't even room for prebuying. Don't tarnish everyone with the one brush, if you have NO idea. Yes, I do run a manipulation channel, and am very proud of it & my members. price manipulation was against the rules before the g.e. and i see no reason why it would not be against the rules now. Americans love to fight. All real Americans love the sting of battle. George S. Patton
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