Bloodkay Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 I'm "meh" about this. I don't care really about swearing in general, but I don't approve of when it's abusive to others. Increasingly though, I've seen the filter become less stressed. The other day I saw someone say "damn". I thought this was considered bad? But with words like "Hell" and "[wagon]" uncensored, I'm not really surprised. Taking a Playstation 3 break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 It's not the practical implementation that interests me the most. Ok sure the practicality of it is big, but for me I concern myself more with the idealistic meaning. Being able to have others know exactly what you mean has great idealistic significance. It signifies Jagex's policy is not "repress" but instead "contain". ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestfrolic Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 It's not the practical implementation that interests me the most. Ok sure the practicality of it is big, but for me I concern myself more with the idealistic meaning. Being able to have others know exactly what you mean has great idealistic significance. It signifies Jagex's policy is not "repress" but instead "contain". Jagex's policy is to censor ill advised language to keep the game clean. Sounds like a good marketing plan to me. Nemo vir est qui mundum non reddat meliorem.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent1777 Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Another great zaaps read =D> I agree, Jagex is too strict... Tip.It's Official Undercover Agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptical Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Do we really want more immature (and mostly young) players "swearing and cursing" in order to seem 'cool' or mature? I think you should be able to talk without any censor in private chat if you have added the other person to your friends list, and they have done likewise, but the public chat should remain as strict as it does now. "Those who give up their liberty for more security neither deserve liberty nor security." Support transparency... and by extension, freedom and democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 It's not the practical implementation that interests me the most. Ok sure the practicality of it is big, but for me I concern myself more with the idealistic meaning. Being able to have others know exactly what you mean has great idealistic significance. It signifies Jagex's policy is not "repress" but instead "contain". Jagex's policy is to censor ill advised language to keep the game clean. Sounds like a good marketing plan to me. You can say anything you want on Wii Wi-Fi, Xbox Live, and whatever the Playstation thing is. Each one of those brings in more money than Jagex. No one is going to quit (ok, no significant group will) because Jagex changed their censor to the same censor their local newspaper is using. I disagree about the entire "keep the little kids safe" thing. Come on. You must be 13 or older to play this game. If you lie about your age, you get no sympathy. Simple as that. It's like pures who want Jagex's quest requirements to stop including prayer. Sorry but you blent the rules in your favor, you suffer. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestfrolic Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 It's not the practical implementation that interests me the most. Ok sure the practicality of it is big, but for me I concern myself more with the idealistic meaning. Being able to have others know exactly what you mean has great idealistic significance. It signifies Jagex's policy is not "repress" but instead "contain". Jagex's policy is to censor ill advised language to keep the game clean. Sounds like a good marketing plan to me. You can say anything you want on Wii Wi-Fi, Xbox Live, and whatever the Playstation thing is. Each one of those brings in more money than Jagex. No one is going to quit (ok, no significant group will) because Jagex changed their censor to the same censor their local newspaper is using. I disagree about the entire "keep the little kids safe" thing. Come on. You must be 13 or older to play this game. If you lie about your age, you get no sympathy. Simple as that. It's like pures who want Jagex's quest requirements to stop including prayer. Sorry but you blent the rules in your favor, you suffer. I don't care about keeping kids safe. I care about how annoying it would be seeing silly swear words every time I log into Runescape. The fact is kids younger than thirteen do play, and kids younger than thirteen (and older) have a very limited vocabulary. Allow cursing, and it will be ridiculous. Nemo vir est qui mundum non reddat meliorem.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 It's not the practical implementation that interests me the most. Ok sure the practicality of it is big, but for me I concern myself more with the idealistic meaning. Being able to have others know exactly what you mean has great idealistic significance. It signifies Jagex's policy is not "repress" but instead "contain". Jagex's policy is to censor ill advised language to keep the game clean. Sounds like a good marketing plan to me. You can say anything you want on Wii Wi-Fi, Xbox Live, and whatever the Playstation thing is. Each one of those brings in more money than Jagex. No one is going to quit (ok, no significant group will) because Jagex changed their censor to the same censor their local newspaper is using. I disagree about the entire "keep the little kids safe" thing. Come on. You must be 13 or older to play this game. If you lie about your age, you get no sympathy. Simple as that. It's like pures who want Jagex's quest requirements to stop including prayer. Sorry but you blent the rules in your favor, you suffer. I don't care about keeping kids safe. I care about how annoying it would be seeing silly swear words every time I log into Runescape. The fact is kids younger than thirteen do play, and kids younger than thirteen (and older) have a very limited vocabulary. Allow cursing, and it will be ridiculous. That wasn't directed at you. It was directed at the general notion. To address what you say however: That's true. But it's just another censor. It's not evading it in the way @$$ is, it's simply using a different method of censoring a word--one that allows greater understanding. So in reality, people aren't gaining any new "abilities", they just gain "clarity". Saying f**k is no different and just an F. Both are understood to be the same and both are different forms of censoring. So nothing new will be introduced. It's more of a fix rather than a patch, if you get what I'm saying. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brainymidget Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 The difference between an acronym and a partialy censored word. Well damn, ones an ACRONYM and ones a PARTIALY CENSORED WORD. The difference between wtf and what the f**k is twofold. The latter takes alot longer to type, and the last word has 2 letters showing (thats 50% of the word) showing instead of 1 letter (which is 25% of the word). Oh my, thats a 25% difference in how much of the word is shown. So by your logic, it would be fine to type "F***"? It's still 25% of the word, the exact same as "wtf" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magzar Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 To be perfectly honest, the only bad thing about the censor is that it censors some things that really have no need to be censored. It's gotten much better but it can sometime still be a pain. There's no logical reason to star out parts of words instead of letting the whole thing be starred, unless it's a word that is needlessly censored and will be hard to discern if fully censored. Seeing "**** you you *******" has about the same impact as "F**k you you a*****e," so there's really no point. Removing the censor wouldn't allow you to express yourself any more than you already can. Everyone pretty much understands that you're frustrated if they see a string of stars pop up above your head. Is it really necessary that they know exactly what those stars stand for? There are good reasons for the censor, as this is a game frequented by young players, who may not be mature enough to handle such language. Letting out a public string of profanities in the real world is likely to get you thrown out of whatever establishment you happen to find yourself in, or even a charge of disturbing the peace. On top of that there are a lot of people who find hearing, or reading profanity to be very offensive. Another factor I doubt you've considered is how much easier it would make in game solicitation and such things, which certainly isn't a reputation that runescape needs. [hide]Damnit, I tripped over Magzar's half inflated blow-up doll and hurt myself. I wish he wouldn't leave that thing lying around. -.-[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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