i_r_slayer Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Hello TIF, I recently got 99 range and have started duoing armadyl gwd and have been having a lot of fun with it. I'm looking to up my game stat-wise, which involves raising my defence and summoning levels, my goal is 99 def and 88 summoning. I am wondering what monster would be the best to camp, slayer is not an option as I do not value its experience at all at the moment and I'm only interested in efficiency. It seems to come down to nechryaels vs. dust devils. From what I understand nechs are better summoning exp, dust devils are better combat exp. Obviously 88 summoning is a pretty far-fetched goal for not using waterfiends or rock lobs, this makes me lean more towards nechs so that 99 def and 88 summon line up better. If anyone has combat exp:summoning exp rates for either monster I would appreciate it. Another option would be to train at waterfiends on controlled for fast summong exp/small def exp and then train at AZ for fast defense exp/small summoning exp. I need some opinions on whether I should go for camping one monster or breaking the two skills up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khandajatt Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 omg r u a fan of KoH series?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death123141 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Try AZs for powertraining def. omg r u a fan of KoH series?? And can you stop posting unrelated stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khandajatt Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 curious dude relax dont flame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death123141 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 curious dude relax dont flame Try PMing him next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khandajatt Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 nah waste of pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 curious dude relax dont flame That isn't flame. Just go with Waterfiends, you'll get 3x more charms there than what you're trying to do. You *can* use a defensive crush weapon. nah waste of pm This makes no sense. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khandajatt Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 lol i know dat is no flammin i was tell the guy not to flame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 lol i know dat is no flammin i was tell the guy not to flame Why would you tell somebody not to flame when he's not flaming? Anyways, I think that the best thing to do is to stop posting about this nonsense. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_r_slayer Posted July 2, 2009 Author Share Posted July 2, 2009 Which weapon would be best for defensive crush, verac flail I'm assuming? I recall someone saying ancient mace + defender or something as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khandajatt Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 hmm i never tried verace but ancient worked fine for me...its ur liking watever u choose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Which weapon would be best for defensive crush, verac flail I'm assuming? I recall someone saying ancient mace + defender or something as well. Ancient staff? [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_r_slayer Posted July 2, 2009 Author Share Posted July 2, 2009 I'm actually liking the looks of this. Ancient staff/defender is 58 crush and 55 strength compared to z spears 65 crush 75 strength, both are the same speed, this might be my best bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khandajatt Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 so z spear is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_r_slayer Posted July 2, 2009 Author Share Posted July 2, 2009 so z spear is better Yes but I do not want to use z spear because I want to train on defensive, please read my topic before you post rather than simply looking at my signature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khandajatt Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 lol sowie about dat was curious to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawn3090 Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Ancient staff is same speed as zammy spear? I thought all staves were a bit slower than whips. Torag's hammers, while slower than the spear, are +85 crush and +72 strength. [hide=Stats][/hide]"One death is a tragedy. A million deaths is a statistic."-Joseph Stalin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspeeder Posted July 2, 2009 Share Posted July 2, 2009 Just an alternative, but I've heard chinning nechs is a good and fast method, plus then you can place the chins on defensive and get good exp in both areas (And because you're 99 range you will do pretty decent damage). I don't know if this will work in practive, but it seems pretty good in theory (Also helps if you have lots of money :? ). http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww6/aspeeder/Siggy_zpsewaiux2t.png 99 Strength since 6/02/10 99 Attack since 9/19/10 99 Constitution since 10/03/10 99 Defense since 3/14/11 99 Slayer since 8/30/11 99 Summoning since 9/10/11 99 Ranged since 09/18/11 99 Magic since 11/12/11 99 Prayer since 11/15/11 99 Herblore since 3/29/12 99 Firemaking since 5/15/12 99 Smithing since 10/04/12 99 Crafting since 9/16/13 99 Agility since 9/23/13 99 Dungeoneering since 1/1/14 99 Fishing since 2/4/14 99 Mining since 2/28/14 99 Farming since 6/04/14 99 Cooking since 6/11/14 99 Runecrafting since 10/10/14 9 Fletching since 11/11/14 99 Thieving since 11/14/14 99 Woodcutting since 11/20/14 99 Construction since 12/03/14 99 Divination since 2/22/15 99 Hunter since 2/23/15 99 Invention since 01/20/17 99 Archaeology since 5/14/22 99 Necromancy since 11/22/25 Quest Point Cape since 08/20/09 Maxed since 2/23/15 Fire Cape since 02/27/13 Slayer: 3 Leaf-Bladed Swords, 8 Black Masks, 2 Hexcrests, 26 Granite Mauls, 5 Focus Sights, 33 Abyssal Whips, 9 Dark Bows, 1 Whip Vine, 3 Staffs of Light, 15 Polypore Sticks Dragon: 10 Draconic Visages, 7 Shield Left Halves, 20 Dragon Boots, 40 Dragon Med Helms, 8 Dragon Platelegs, 6 Dragon Spears, 20 Dragon Daggers, 5 Dragon Plateskirts, 1 Dragon Chainbody, 63 Off-hand Dragon Throwing Axes, 19 Dragon Longswords, 27 Dragon Maces, 1 Dragon Ward Treasure Trails: Saradomin Full Helm, Ranger Boots, Rune Body (t), Saradomin Vambraces, Various God Pages Misc:1 Onyx,1 Ahrim's Hood, 1 Guthan's Chainskirt, 1 Demon Slayer Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Use a Berseker Necklace and an Obby Mace at Waterfiends. That allows you to train defense while still using crush. Therefore, Waterfiends would be the best option for you. It's speed is slightly worse than using a ZS or SS, but slightly better than the Godsword, and far better than stuff like T hammers, V flail, and Barrelchest Anchor. If that doesn't appeal to you, you could try Scarabites as well. Very high danger though. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 The reduced accuracy makes the Berserker necklace pretty garbage at Waterfiends, where accuracy is considered very important. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 The reduced accuracy makes the Berserker necklace pretty garbage at Waterfiends, where accuracy is considered very important. It's a hit, but not a critical hit. While you will need to deal with a few more 0s, it does have its uses. In my personal experience, it beats out Barrows weapons and Anchor, etc. It comes close with the Godsword, although for me it's slightly faster, but that may be because of my stats. Also remember because the Mace is one-handed, you can equip a rune defender. That pretty much covers the attack loss if you compare it to a GS, SS, or ZS. Although if you do compare it to SS or ZS, it is garbage. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Also remember because the Mace is one-handed, you can equip a rune defender. That pretty much covers the attack loss if you compare it to a GS, SS, or ZS. ??? No. It's a hit, but not a critical hit. While you will need to deal with a few more 0s, it does have its uses. It's all about how much damage you hit over time. The 0's makes it lower. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Also remember because the Mace is one-handed, you can equip a rune defender. That pretty much covers the attack loss if you compare it to a GS, SS, or ZS. ??? No. ....? Zerker Necklace gives -10 crush, rune defender gives +18? Obby mace gives +62 crush, ZS gives +65. Math is obvious, I think. Zerker combo w/ rune defender gives +70 crush, but ZS alone gives +65. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Did you forget about the fury? [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_r_slayer Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 I'm currently doing some xp tests to figure out whats best. Testing dragon mace right now, doing ancient staff after that and will probably give obby mace a quick test as well, will post results when they come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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