obfuscator Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 This is a very hard decision. I can see the pros and cons both ways. If every member was only allowed to be in 1 clan, including outside of TWR, this would cause a lot of issues. However, as Jc said earlier, clans adding a good amount of members before a war from clans outside of TWR and using them to gain an advantage in wars is the true problem. I know you can enforce memberlist locks, but the only way this would be effective is to enforce it the day the war rules are decided on, and even this could be flawed if these members stay on the memberlist forever and keep warring with them while in another clan outside of TWR. Perhaps there should be severe penalties? What do you think about enabling a clan to be kicked from the TWR if they are found to have done this? "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uffan5 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 This is a very hard decision. I can see the pros and cons both ways. If every member was only allowed to be in 1 clan, including outside of TWR, this would cause a lot of issues. However, as Jc said earlier, clans adding a good amount of members before a war from clans outside of TWR and using them to gain an advantage in wars is the true problem. I know you can enforce memberlist locks, but the only way this would be effective is to enforce it the day the war rules are decided on, and even this could be flawed if these members stay on the memberlist forever and keep warring with them while in another clan outside of TWR. Perhaps there should be severe penalties? What do you think about enabling a clan to be kicked from the TWR if they are found to have done this? For a clan to stoop that low, that seems very fair =D> Crimson Raiders Forums | Crimson Raiders Runehead | Crimson Raiders FA Runehead§ Crimson Raiders Veteran | Ex Downfall Warlord | Ex Team Vendetta Council Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparze Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True_Ownage Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 How about a multi clanners cap? No TWR clan is allowed more than 5 people in other OFFICIAL WARRING CLANS? Discuss. New account: Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demigod259 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 i can see this topic is thrown totally at me shocker there. :roll: and i can tell that by this and str babi 21 is khangirl1 leader of downfall that keeps bringing the subject up that I'm "multiclanning".. So why don't you just lock this topic it's kinda pointless but i see the mods are looking into the tip it rules and if so.. then talk to dh leader mateusz328(sorry if i have the name wrong)..Cause he's a Corruption member.As hes also a mod on this forum :thumbup: but weird why would you make this topic right after i leave?and to generaldesor i didn't miss a Df war i even came to the war against a clan at 1:00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFWILL Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Demi... This topic was not just about u... There are clans that have tons of these members... And a cap of 5 would work pretty good imo... >> DF-RUNE-WILL<<>> DOWNFALL COUNCIL SINCE OCT 08' << Be Part of the Downfall Today!:Click For Downfall's Site! #Downfall on swift irc >>110+ Clan (108+ for Fa) - 85+ Def. - 70+ Mage - 15+ Rune sets - TS3<< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demigod259 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 u and all of df know i was in corruption at the time.as u guys made that clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfmolly Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Demi this topic is not about you. Downfall does not support multiclanning so khan was just supporting our (downfall) decision against multiclanning. There's no need to bring individuals into this or single clans out. She said that in the comfort of our own cc. Back on topic...3-5 multiclanners is a nice compromise JC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparze Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 E-Drama.... Dont mind this people Demigod they are just raging because you left Df for TK \ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True_Ownage Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 E-Drama.... Dont mind this people Demigod they are just raging because you left Df for TK \ They say you flame bait, but yet they talk about how he's 12 in another topic. And this too, should I mention. :thumbdown: Not seeing much discussion on the comprimise for multi-clanning that I proposed. New account: Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uffan5 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 E-Drama.... Dont mind this people Demigod they are just raging because you left Df for TK \ Interesting response to the multi clanning rule discussion. This must be for post count or to flame bait because it has no relevance to the topic. Crimson Raiders Forums | Crimson Raiders Runehead | Crimson Raiders FA Runehead§ Crimson Raiders Veteran | Ex Downfall Warlord | Ex Team Vendetta Council Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparze Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 E-Drama.... Dont mind this people Demigod they are just raging because you left Df for TK \ Interesting response to the multi clanning rule discussion. This must be for post count or to flame bait because it has no relevance to the topic. I Was Responding to things fellow Downfall Members Wrote about Demigod How he Multi clans P.s if he still was Downfall member i don't think you guys would have cared about him being in Corruption. or you would have kicked him instead of him leaving after week . Its a game if he has time to be in 2 clans at same time then let him be in it, and second of all i'm sure he got bored of No pvp action he gets in Df so he had no other choice but to join Corruption you cant blame the man... there is alot of people in this community who are in other pvp clans and small clans in here 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generaldesor Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 E-Drama.... Dont mind this people Demigod they are just raging because you left Df for TK \ Interesting response to the multi clanning rule discussion. This must be for post count or to flame bait because it has no relevance to the topic. I Was Responding to things fellow Downfall Members Wrote about Demigod How he Multi clans P.s if he still was Downfall member i don't think you guys would have cared about him being in Corruption. or you would have kicked him instead of him leaving after week . Its a game if he has time to be in 2 clans at same time then let him be in it, and second of all i'm sure he got bored of No pvp action he gets in Df so he had no other choice but to join Corruption you cant blame the man... there is alot of people in this community who are in other pvp clans and small clans in here 2 Actualy sparze, when I found out he was in corruption, I asked him why, if thats against downfall rules, and I notified amateurnoob and uffan5 aobut this, and suggested them to tell him to leave corr, because, even if demigod doesnt wanna accept, it indeed was a problem for his schedule when he had 2 events at a time,and im sure he atleast missed some war to go to "pk with corruption" wish I had taken the pic. so yeah, this is when multiclaning becomes an ISSUE to any clan. Also, dont start making false assumptions, when you barely even speak to downfall.Downfall just is against multiclanning, its not because he joined tk, he could have joined guthix warriors( our allies) and be on coll at the same time and I myself would have complained. And demigod IS 12, Im not inventing it as some sort of flame,but I think it does explains sorta why he doesnt find it bad to be in 2 clans at the same time EVEN if they sometimes arrange events at the same time. I dont make up things in order to flame like certain people here. person who won the most awards: GeneraldesorRETIRED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obfuscator Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 The difference with Mateusz is that he is in Corruption (a main clan) and DH, a country clan. This is generally seen as acceptable among clans. I'm sure that in all cases he has to put Corruption ahead of DH, despite him leading DH. I didn't think this topic is aimed at just one person, it seems as if it's a valid concern for many clans in the TWR. "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demigod259 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 E-Drama.... Dont mind this people Demigod they are just raging because you left Df for TK \ Interesting response to the multi clanning rule discussion. This must be for post count or to flame bait because it has no relevance to the topic. I Was Responding to things fellow Downfall Members Wrote about Demigod How he Multi clans P.s if he still was Downfall member i don't think you guys would have cared about him being in Corruption. or you would have kicked him instead of him leaving after week . Its a game if he has time to be in 2 clans at same time then let him be in it, and second of all i'm sure he got bored of No pvp action he gets in Df so he had no other choice but to join Corruption you cant blame the man... there is alot of people in this community who are in other pvp clans and small clans in here 2 Actualy sparze, when I found out he was in corruption, I asked him why, if thats against downfall rules, and I notified amateurnoob and uffan5 aobut this, and suggested them to tell him to leave corr, because, even if demigod doesnt wanna accept, it indeed was a problem for his schedule when he had 2 events at a time,and im sure he atleast missed some war to go to "pk with corruption" wish I had taken the pic. so yeah, this is when multiclaning becomes an ISSUE to any clan. Also, dont start making false assumptions, when you barely even speak to downfall.Downfall just is against multiclanning, its not because he joined tk, he could have joined guthix warriors( our allies) and be on coll at the same time and I myself would have complained. And demigod IS 12, Im not inventing it as some sort of flame,but I think it does explains sorta why he doesnt find it bad to be in 2 clans at the same time EVEN if they sometimes arrange events at the same time. I dont make up things in order to flame like certain people here. No matter what age it dosen't matter...and tell me when i missed a war with df for corruption please do and i think its boring just being in 1 clan and having their events only to attend to thats why I'm in teams to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay_More12 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 E-Drama.... Dont mind this people Demigod they are just raging because you left Df for TK \ Why did you join the Tip It Forums? to flame-bait Df? Divine Forces | #DF on irc.seersirc.net | Most Motivated | http://rs-df.com/forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plazaskater Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Multi clanning is still multi clanning even if it involves a clan not in the twr ranking. I belive the Twr shouldn't get involved in this as its the clans responsablity on their image to not allow members being in 2 or more clans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True_Ownage Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 E-Drama.... Dont mind this people Demigod they are just raging because you left Df for TK \ Why did you join the Tip It Forums? to flame-bait Df? You're being just as bad changing the topic. Don't write about stuff which has NO relevance to the topic. If Sparze flame baits just report it to a TWR moderator through PM or in the IRC "#clans". -.- @ Plaza, I agree, however there's a limit to what one clan should be able to do this. Therefore I think a multi-clanner cap is a fair comprimise between the current rules and the old rules. New account: Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
generaldesor Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I could be wrong but Im sure I remeber you saying "sorry wars gotta go pk with corr" atleast trough one on-going war. And I know, age doesnt matter, mental maturity does, but without offence,most 12 years old I would say.. well..are still like really "children" if you know what I mean. I dont like multiclanning, if you do , then thats ok, but why join a clan like downfall wich rules say "no multiclanning" , see, theres where the problem is demi, anyways were getting off-topic here, the topic is not about you, is about a general concern. person who won the most awards: GeneraldesorRETIRED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laikrob Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 Leaving one public warning to keep this on topic... That means no snide remarks about Downfall, their members or whatever else that has nothing to do with multiclanning in TWR. After this, any off topic posts will be removed and warnings/time outs will very likely be handed out. Also: Laikrob, Clan Staff You're accusing me of bigotry, how ironic. It's a nice attempt at argument, but your responses are facile and asinine, if not diatribe. Who's arrogant now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laikrob Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 We are currently reviewing the multiclanning rule, so please don't miss your chance to post your opinions on it here if you haven't already. You're accusing me of bigotry, how ironic. It's a nice attempt at argument, but your responses are facile and asinine, if not diatribe. Who's arrogant now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decebal Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Should we have a poll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obfuscator Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Should we have a poll? Based on the nature of this dispute I don't think a poll would really help. "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decebal Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Should we have a poll? Based on the nature of this dispute I don't think a poll would really help. Why not? If we narrow it down to about 3-5 choices, this could happen. Best way to handle this imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraPrimal Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 I think the rule is fine as it is, and if a clan has multiclanners, well that just makes the clan look bad. The rule was put in place, if anyone remembers, because BEFORE a war even took place the declaration topic would take up 8-9 pages of lists of multiclanners. Then AFTER the war there would be a victory topic with 8-9 pages of disputes by the defeated clan of multiclanners in the war. If the multiclanning rule returned to the way it was before, it would make a lot of clans (since several clans on here have people in PK clans) inactive as they would just become fed up with all the arguing on TWR and leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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