Slayer questions

[D Jay99]

Hi everyone,

 

 

 

I'm planning to 'bank' 95 slayer in super sets, summoning pouches, prayer potions, food, etc. Just not cannonballs because I can't afford that :oops:

 

I will be using protect from melee/magic if needed, piety at waterfiends and 10% str on everything else, and will cannon all tasks where it's possible to efficiently cannon (excluding fire giants).

 

 

 

I did 93 duradel tasks for 1.7m xp last time I slayed, which averages out to about 18k xp/task or ~250 tasks max to 95 slayer.

 

 

 

I still have a few questions though.

 

 

 

My current blocklist consists of iron dragons, steel dragons, kalphites and greater demons. I'm considering unblocking greater demons (94 hp is close and it will get me 127 combat) and blocking hellhounds instead. Would this be a good idea or would you recommend keeping my blocklist this way or blocking something else? I don't mind scarabs/tbirds.

 

 

 

Would buying 1.5k prayer potions last me all the way to 95 slayer or do you think 6 ppots/task is a really low estimate? Prayer potions are pretty high too at the moment, is there any chance they'll go down to like 10k each in the near future or will they stay as high as they are now? And what about cannonballs?

 

 

 

Would 500 super sets, 300 bunyips, 200 geysers, 100 pony's and 2k pineapple pizza's be enough?

 

 

 

Is it worth going on lunars for faster task swapping at the cost of not being able to cast high alchemy and trollheim teleport (for herb runs/spirit mages)? If I'd have to get 96 mage first for spellbook swap I would probably get 97 on accident from teleporting/circus, and I wouldn't have enough money left to bank 95 slayer.

 

 

 

Also, last but not least, a pretty large question. If you're going to try to answer, please don't guess or something but actually calculate it.

 

I'm going to try to get all 96 combats with 95 slayer and 99 hitpoints/summoning. I will burst/barrage 96 mage, slay 96 melees, cannon 96 range and chin if I can't get 96 range by just cannoning. Do you recon I can get 95 slayer without going over 96 combats? And what about summoning, would I be able to get 99 summoning doing just this? I tried to calc it myself and worked out that I should just be able to make it to 95 slayer, and I should get charms for 98.2 summoning or so. Does this sound right or did I do it wrong?

 

 

 

I know it isn't really possible to accurately calculate stuff needed for slayer like this, but I'd just like to know if my estimates are close or completely off. Any advice/help is welcome, you don't have to answer all of the questions, just the ones you can answer. :D

 

For those interested, I'll probably keep my drops 88-95, keep track of the supplies used and time spent on slayer, so there will finally be some accurate data for discussing whether slayer is worth training or not :P

 

 

 

Thanks in advance :)

[nicrune007]

Don't un-ban Greaters they suck L. Its always crowded and pretty spaced out and its far to reach.

 

If you have a list of task you are gonna skip, ban the 4 most common ones.

 

 

 

If you check Zarfots guide there are pretty much a good cannon spot for every cannonable task. But I do cannon some non-multi task =)

 

 

 

You don't really need to buy EVERYTHING you need for 95 slayer.

 

Whenever I am low on supplies I just buy it, doesn't take long. I buy increments of 100s.

 

 

 

I think you shouldn't use contact NPC, since Dudrel is by a bank and you need to bank every task anyways.

 

 

 

For the xp calculation thingy, its too much varible and its hard to calculate.

 

 

 

But say if cannon takes up 40% of your Xp then yes you will make it before 96 melee.

 

 

 

Cheers!

[zotto]

I never bought prayer pots in my runescape existence. Slayer sustains my need for prayer pots by means of ranarr drops.

[D Jay99]

I never bought prayer pots in my runescape existence. Slayer sustains my need for prayer pots by means of ranarr drops.

 

Hmm that's actually a pretty good idea, I wouldn't have to bank as many ppots beforehand.

 

 

 

Don't un-ban Greaters they suck L. Its always crowded and pretty spaced out and its far to reach.

 

If you have a list of task you are gonna skip, ban the 4 most common ones.

 

 

 

If you check Zarfots guide there are pretty much a good cannon spot for every cannonable task. But I do cannon some non-multi task =)

 

 

 

Cheers!

 

I've never done greaters so I don't really know about crowds, but I'll just take your advice and keep them banned :P

 

 

 

I do use zarfots guide for cannon spots, but he doesn't really describe the position of the cannon at hellhounds well and I couldn't find a good spot, so I usually just melee them.

 

 

 

Thanks guys :)

[nicrune007]

I never bought prayer pots in my runescape existence. Slayer sustains my need for prayer pots by means of ranarr drops.

 

Hmm that's actually a pretty good idea, I wouldn't have to bank as many ppots beforehand.

 

 

 

Don't un-ban Greaters they suck L. Its always crowded and pretty spaced out and its far to reach.

 

If you have a list of task you are gonna skip, ban the 4 most common ones.

 

 

 

If you check Zarfots guide there are pretty much a good cannon spot for every cannonable task. But I do cannon some non-multi task =)

 

 

 

Cheers!

 

I've never done greaters so I don't really know about crowds, but I'll just take your advice and keep them banned :P

 

 

 

I do use zarfots guide for cannon spots, but he doesn't really describe the position of the cannon at hellhounds well and I couldn't find a good spot, so I usually just melee them.

 

 

 

Thanks guys :)

 

 

 

Wut you do hellhounds? :?

[D Jay99]

I never bought prayer pots in my runescape existence. Slayer sustains my need for prayer pots by means of ranarr drops.

 

Hmm that's actually a pretty good idea, I wouldn't have to bank as many ppots beforehand.

 

 

 

Don't un-ban Greaters they suck L. Its always crowded and pretty spaced out and its far to reach.

 

If you have a list of task you are gonna skip, ban the 4 most common ones.

 

 

 

If you check Zarfots guide there are pretty much a good cannon spot for every cannonable task. But I do cannon some non-multi task =)

 

 

 

Cheers!

 

I've never done greaters so I don't really know about crowds, but I'll just take your advice and keep them banned :P

 

 

 

I do use zarfots guide for cannon spots, but he doesn't really describe the position of the cannon at hellhounds well and I couldn't find a good spot, so I usually just melee them.

 

 

 

Thanks guys :)

 

 

 

Wut you do hellhounds? :?

 

Well, I don't have them blocked because there's no room left on the blocklist. :P

[zotto]

Hellhounds are good experience and fast when using a cannon. No need to block them.

[D Jay99]

Hellhounds are good experience and fast when using a cannon. No need to block them.

 

Could you explain where to set up the cannon? I've tried to find a spot where I can both range the hellhounds from a safespot and easily refill the cannon, but didn't manage to find one.

[zotto]

well, there are no ideal cannon spots, but my favourite is just past the entrance. When you enter the cave proper. Where you can see the lower level for the first time. There are some rocks to the side where you can go behind.

 

 

 

I use void range nowadays because I am maxed melee and trying to get 99 range.

 

 

 

2 hell hounds will be killed automatically. For the other 5 you have to pay attention. You might have to step into the battle regularly. No problem since they respawn so slowly. So you kill them cannon-assisted.

 

 

 

Some people put it in the middle of the lower level. I hardly ever do that.

 

 

 

an alternative is to put it in the bend where upper level changes into lower level. You will be able to reach quite a lot of them there as well.

 

 

 

Mind you, there are no perfect spots. Hell hounds tend to back away. It's not the fastest cannonable task, but it sure is faster than any non-cannonable task.

 

 

 

You can even cannon black dragons in the chicken lair. A bit uneconomical though. I usually just do baby black dragons nowadays.

[D Jay99]

well, there are no ideal cannon spots, but my favourite is just past the entrance. When you enter the cave proper. Where you can see the lower level for the first time. There are some rocks to the side where you can go behind.

 

 

 

I use void range nowadays because I am maxed melee and trying to get 99 range.

 

 

 

2 hell hounds will be killed automatically. For the other 5 you have to pay attention. You might have to step into the battle regularly. No problem since they respawn so slowly. So you kill them cannon-assisted.

 

 

 

Some people put it in the middle of the lower level. I hardly ever do that.

 

 

 

an alternative is to put it in the bend where upper level changes into lower level. You will be able to reach quite a lot of them there as well.

 

 

 

Mind you, there are no perfect spots. Hell hounds tend to back away. It's not the fastest cannonable task, but it sure is faster than any non-cannonable task.

 

 

 

You can even cannon black dragons in the chicken lair. A bit uneconomical though. I usually just do baby black dragons nowadays.

 

Thanks, I'll have to try that. :)

 

 

 

Any more advice?

[manitstinks]

I block metals, skeleton wyverns, and black dragons. All those are some of the slowest xp u can get

[J35u5_M4]

Keep in mind that tasks vary so you won't know how many prayer potions you need ,300 sounds like a good number, but you'll probably need to buy some later, 500 super sets sounds good too.

 

 

 

Hellhounds are not as bad, in my opinion Spirit Terrobirds are way worse. My block list consists of Steel Dragons, Skeletal Wyverns, Spirit Terrobirds and Kalphite.

 

 

 

You might want to, do DKs or something for dagannoth tasks, as it will bring you some profit, better xp and fun ^^

[Cptbaker08]

Metal dragons (except for Miths), Wyverns, Kalphites, Hellhounds, and Scabs (from what i hear) are the slowest task to do.

 

 

 

All others tend to be faster and easier to get. You also get decent drops from some to pay for the cost of potions and food. Like some suggest just buy when you need to, get 100 at a time. Most tasks you might not need the P'apple Pizzas as the Bunyip will keep up the costs of food. If you can buy a SGS i would as it helps when you need to heal and restore prayer. While using a SGS you can keep 10% str on without having to use a prayer potion. If you can't get a SGS an Enhanced Excailbur will help with healing if you need it.

 

 

 

If you're going for speed cannon some tasks. If not then don't worry about it. Greater Demons aren't as bad as people say they are. I would unblock them and add Hellhounds as they are a pain to do.

 

 

 

NPC contact does help out. But like it was said you usually need to bank on most tasks any way. If you have the Karamja Gloves 3 then i would bring those to get to Shilo to bank and get better tasks.

 

 

 

As for what levels you get, it will be hard to tell. If you cannon more you will get higher range exp but not as much melee/hp exp. Depending on the tasks you can get insane amounts of charms. What you calculated looks about right.

 

 

 

I can't think of anything so ill wait till a response from you and post some more.

[D Jay99]

Metal dragons (except for Miths), Wyverns, Kalphites, Hellhounds, and Scabs (from what i hear) are the slowest task to do.

 

 

 

All others tend to be faster and easier to get. You also get decent drops from some to pay for the cost of potions and food. Like some suggest just buy when you need to, get 100 at a time. Most tasks you might not need the P'apple Pizzas as the Bunyip will keep up the costs of food. If you can buy a SGS i would as it helps when you need to heal and restore prayer. While using a SGS you can keep 10% str on without having to use a prayer potion. If you can't get a SGS an Enhanced Excailbur will help with healing if you need it.

 

 

 

If you're going for speed cannon some tasks. If not then don't worry about it. Greater Demons aren't as bad as people say they are. I would unblock them and add Hellhounds as they are a pain to do.

 

 

 

NPC contact does help out. But like it was said you usually need to bank on most tasks any way. If you have the Karamja Gloves 3 then i would bring those to get to Shilo to bank and get better tasks.

 

 

 

As for what levels you get, it will be hard to tell. If you cannon more you will get higher range exp but not as much melee/hp exp. Depending on the tasks you can get insane amounts of charms. What you calculated looks about right.

 

 

 

I can't think of anything so ill wait till a response from you and post some more.

 

Thanks a lot. I think I'm going to unblock greaters when I get 127 cb, wait till I get a task and try them. If I don't mind them I'll block hellhounds instead, and otherwise I'll just have wasted 100 points, :P

 

 

 

I'd love to buy an sgs, but at it's current price I'd have to sell most of my bank just to buy one, and I wouldn't have money left to buy supplies. So, I guess excalibur and ppots will have to do the job.

 

 

 

You might want to, do DKs or something for dagannoth tasks, as it will bring you some profit, better xp and fun ^^

 

I'm not really sure, I kind of like the 15 minute cannon tasks under the lighthouse. :P

 

Might give it a try though if I'm bored.

[Cptbaker08]

15 mins task under the LH. Waste 1.5k Cballs.

 

 

 

30 min task in the CT. Profit 100K+ (After Costs of prayer pots)

 

 

 

Choices is up to you. My last task of 195 i used 4.5 Prayer Potions and made 181k from drops and alchs. Got about 16k slayer exp, plus some decent crimson charms. I think i got around 45. Not as good as Dks, but beter then the LH.

[D Jay99]

15 mins task under the LH. Waste 1.5k Cballs.

 

 

 

30 min task in the CT. Profit 100K+ (After Costs of prayer pots)

 

 

 

Choices is up to you. My last task of 195 i used 4.5 Prayer Potions and made 181k from drops and alchs. Got about 16k slayer exp, plus some decent crimson charms. I think i got around 45. Not as good as Dks, but beter then the LH.

 

I have tried the CT dagganoths, but I didn't really like them. If you spec or drink a potion it's pretty much impossible to attack the same dagg you were attacking because there's so many of them, and running around to pick up drops is pretty annoying with auto retaliate on. Besides, I probably won't make it to 96 range just from cannon anyway, so I'm going to cannon as much as possible to save chin costs/get more slay xp.

[ilovecardj]

Greater demons are always crowded. However when I was getting 99 slayer, and was doing 99 range via Void range on my tasks, greaters were decent.

 

 

 

You can always get the greater first, and you can just camp the entrance with 3 greaters on like world 6 or another fast respawning world. no need to safe spot, just use unicorn, and sgs/enhanced excalibur if you cant afford/dont wanna use sgs. at 127 cb the wild dogs are of no concern.

 

 

 

For this reason the fire giants the next room over are really good to use to. I found range tanking all my tasks with void range, fury, zammy book, unicorn, sgs, pineapple pizzas was enough hp even for things like gargs. used 5-10% range pray depending on my task.

 

 

 

Range tanking is always faster exp then safing since your always in combat non stop and no need to maneuver. also no need to pick up bolts. use rune c'bow with broad bolts and you will be hitting around 40s

 

 

 

about your block list.

 

 

 

Hellhounds are a junk task. I dont care what anyone says Id always block them. I skipped greaters everytime i wasnt ranging them. Black dragons I often skipped unless I was up for some fun (kbd) not the most efficient task though. However with a lava titan you can do 60 KBD in like 2 hours or so.

 

 

 

I did wyverns with piety, they were ok charms, nothing great for exp. I did get a visage. They are faster exp then any metals though.

 

 

 

Kalphites are always packed, and even on world 6 with cannon, you can kill them faster then they spawn. alot of waiting involved. however they are faster exp then some tasks and may be worth doing if you feel like a slight exp boost over some tasks

 

 

 

My list was iron/steel/hounds/greaters for a long time. then changed greaters for kalphites. I mostly skipped black drags with points. Scarabites/goraks/sugahs I never unlocked till i was 99 so never tasked them yet. but scarabs with cannon is great exp/charms.

 

 

 

Maybe this was of some use to you I dunno :P. I wouldnt get so many geysers, wolpertinger is one of the best summon fighters. id only use steel titan over this for multi cb tasks

[D Jay99]

My list was iron/steel/hounds/greaters for a long time. then changed greaters for kalphites. I mostly skipped black drags with points. Scarabites/goraks/sugahs I never unlocked till i was 99 so never tasked them yet. but scarabs with cannon is great exp/charms.

 

 

 

Maybe this was of some use to you I dunno :P. I wouldnt get so many geysers, wolpertinger is one of the best summon fighters. id only use steel titan over this for multi cb tasks

 

Thanks, I'm glad your blocklist looks so much like mine :P

 

 

 

I'm not sure about the geyser/wolpertinger, I was planning to save charms until I have 96 for slightly more efficient charm use, and when I asked someone else he said geyser was still better. I guess I'll use it anyway since it gives range xp, which I need more than mage xp. :P

[brunokiller]

Greater demons are never really crowded, neither are hellhounds.

 

 

 

And as soon as you get 96 summoning unblock all dragons. Yak scrolling their bones is epic money.