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Alright, sort of a follow-up to my previous thread, since Nadril pointed out that my computer is in all actuality a piece of [cabbage] (if you read that with sarcasm there actually isn't - glad you mentioned it Nadril), so I've been digging around and I'm planning on putting together a custom PC (I'll probably end up getting all the parts, looking at them for 30mins then deciding to get someone to build it anyways), so I'm going to post what parts I'm looking at and hopefully some of the resident hardware junkies here on the TIF T&C forums can tell me if they'll work together/are actually worthwhile.

 

 

 

I'm looking at a budget of around $600, as I don't need a top of the line PC, since graphics have never really been that big of a deal for me - I still occasionally play DOS games lol.

 

 

 

So, here they are (intros are annoying, eh?):

 

 

 

CPU/Processor:

 

AMD Phenom Agena 2 (2.3ghz): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103244

 

 

 

Case:

 

Raidax Smilodon: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156062

 

(PSU comes with the case, 500W)

 

 

 

Motherboard:

 

ASRock A780LM AM2+: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157153

 

 

 

RAM:

 

G.Skill 4gb DDR2: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231226

 

 

 

Video Card:

 

Radeon HD 4670 512mb: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127415

 

 

 

Hard Drive:

 

Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319

 

 

 

CD/DVD drive:

 

Sony Optiarc Black: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827131061

 

 

 

I have an old Audigy Sound Blaster sound card sitting in the drawer next to my desk, so hopefully I can just use that. If not, sound cards are cheap as hell anyways. :P

 

 

 

There. Have I missed anything? Heatsinks, fans, or any other doodads? And if anyone who's pretty well rounded with computer hardware wants to take a look at them and make sure they're compatible with each other it would be mucho appreciated. All the random computer specifications give me a huge headache (I actually read a giant article detailing the difference between DDR, DDR2 and DDR3 RAM. And I always thought DDR was a dancing game that Korean kids played in arcades...)

 

 

 

In total everything comes out to just under $450 USD.

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Case and Mobo urls are the same.

 

The link for your motherboard is the exact same as the one to your case. Copy/paste fail?

 

 

 

 

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Get a SATA DVD drive, don't get that case expecting to use the psu as it sucks (the psu that is) and personally I'd jump straight to AM3 with the mobo and cpu as AM2+ is only a stepping block.

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^Add links to Joe.

 

 

 

Corsair 400w - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817139008 - 50$ (offer ends on 13th)

 

Crucial 2gb DDR3 PC3 10600 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820148226 - 33$ (get two of these)

 

MSI AM3 mobo - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813130228 - 80$ (not newest chipset i know, but i don't think it will matter much to him)

 

AMD P2 X3 710 2.6ghz - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819103648 - 99$

 

Rosewill mid tower case - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6811147068 - 20$ (cheap (to save money) otherwise i'd recommend a Cooler Master case but they're usually bit more expensive)

 

Total: 315$

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You wont need a sound card if you use the mobo you said, just use the onboard audio.

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Get a SATA DVD drive, don't get that case expecting to use the psu as it sucks (the psu that is) and personally I'd jump straight to AM3 with the mobo and cpu as AM2+ is only a stepping block.

 

 

 

Would these be better then?

 

Motherboard - MSI 770-C54 AM3 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130228

 

Processor - AMD Phenom II X3 2.6GHz - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103648

 

and for RAM

 

4gb DDR3 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134718

 

and a Sony SATA DVD drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118031

 

 

 

?

 

 

 

And what's wrong with the PSU that comes with the case?

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Get a SATA DVD drive, don't get that case expecting to use the psu as it sucks (the psu that is) and personally I'd jump straight to AM3 with the mobo and cpu as AM2+ is only a stepping block.

 

 

 

Would these be better then?

 

Motherboard - MSI 770-C54 AM3 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130228

 

Processor - AMD Phenom II X3 2.6GHz - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103648

 

and for RAM

 

4gb DDR3 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134718

 

and a Sony SATA DVD drive - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827118031

 

 

 

?

 

 

 

And what's wrong with the PSU that comes with the case?

 

All looks ok, but get the ram OldJoe recommended.

 

Personally I'd go with a X2 and get a better graphics card, but I use my desktop for gaming and not much else.

 

 

 

Read the reviews about the case/psu and you'll see why the psu isn't too good and has a pretty high chance of being DoA.

 

 

 

The mobo description made me laugh.

 

140W Phenum II

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All looks ok, but get the ram OldJoe recommended.

 

They're both 4gb of DDR3. What's that difference between DDR3 1033 and DDR3 1066?

 

 

 

Personally I'd go with a X2 and get a better graphics card, but I use my desktop for gaming and not much else.

 

What's the real difference between the two?

 

 

 

Read the reviews about the case/psu and you'll see why the psu isn't too good and has a pretty high chance of being DoA.

 

Perhaps. I'll look to see if I can find something better then, though the case does look to be pretty newb friendly.

 

 

 

The mobo description made me laugh.

 

140W Phenum II

 

eh whatever, I was in a rush and didn't really look at anything other than the specs.

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Your best bet for a case/PSU will be a Refurbished Case from the CoolerMaster Store and the 400W PSU Old Joe linked earlier.

 

 

 

I'm Canadian, so I don't know if a site like coolermaster-usa.com would actually ship to me. Newegg won't ship to me either, I'm using newegg links to just show the parts though. I can get them from somewhere else.

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The ram OldJoe posted is faster and works out cheaper by about $10 or so.

 

 

 

Newegg.ca has been around for a while now (atleast 3 months) the only thing is I think there shipped from a US depot and taken across the boarder so the shipping and tax adds up.

 

 

 

The X then number in AMD naming terms refers to the number of cores. Since 99.9% of games barely make use of 2 cores its seen as an overkill to have more then 2 cores by most gamers, the only real reason is for general use.

 

 

 

That mobo is perfectly fine its just a typo by newegg which made me chuckle.

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The ram OldJoe posted is faster and works out cheaper by about $10 or so.

 

 

 

Newegg.ca has been around for a while now (atleast 3 months) the only thing is I think there shipped from a US depot and taken across the boarder so the shipping and tax adds up.

 

Yeah it must've been fairly new.

 

 

 

The X then number in AMD naming terms refers to the number of cores. Since 99.9% of games barely make use of 2 cores its seen as an overkill to have more then 2 cores by most gamers, the only real reason is for general use.

 

 

 

Ah I see. Yeah, I'm not looking to build a rig that can run Crysis on high settings, just one that can chug along nice on most games. I'll go see if I can find a cheaper AM2.

 

edit: I'm looking through Newegg and whatnot, and the good rated AM2 motherboards are all just $10-15 cheaper than the AM3, and support only 4-8gb of RAM, whereas the AM3 is 16gb.

 

Idk, I might just get the AM3, since it would be better if I plan on upgrading later on.

 

Oh, and they don't have the RAM that OldJoe suggested on Newegg.ca :(

 

 

 

That mobo is perfectly fine its just a typo by newegg which made me chuckle.

 

 

 

Oh ok, gave me a bit of a jump there, thought I had to go do more digging to find a compatible one.

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If you can afford it, i'd still go for the X3. Altho if you get a good cooler you can get the X2 up to quite high speeds (if you know what you're doing+a good mobo).

 

RAM: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6820148150

 

or http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6820231180

 

G.Skill is faster, but the Crucial ones still have quite low latency. Again, depends on how much you feel like forking out.

 

But really, go for AM3 (it's the new socket, so more and more will come for it).

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If you can afford it, i'd still go for the X3. Altho if you get a good cooler you can get the X2 up to quite high speeds (if you know what you're doing+a good mobo).

 

RAM: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6820148150

 

or http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.as ... 6820231180

 

G.Skill is faster, but the Crucial ones still have quite low latency. Again, depends on how much you feel like forking out.

 

But really, go for AM3 (it's the new socket, so more and more will come for it).

 

 

 

Yea I'm not sure I want to get into that much depth, this is my first build after all.

 

 

 

So this is what it's looking like now:

 

Case: Doesn't really matter, my Dad's work is always throwing away a [cabbage]-ton of old computers, so I just asked him to bring one home with him. I don't really care about aesthetics.

 

CD/DVD Drive: Probably just whatever ends up being in the case that my dad brings home.

 

Motherboard - MSI 770 AM3 - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130228&Tpk=MSI%20770-C45%20AM3%20AMD%20770

 

CPU/Processor - AMD Phenom II X3 - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103648&Tpk=AMD%20Phenom%20II%20X3%202.6GHz

 

RAM - Crucial 2x2GB DDR3 1066 - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148150

 

Video Card - Radeon HD 4670 512mb - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127415

 

Hard Drive - Western Digital Caviar Black 640Gb - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319&Tpk=Western%20Digital%20Caviar%20Black%20WD6401AALS%20640GB

 

PSU - Rosewill RP550V2 550W - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182031

 

 

 

Look good/everything compatible with one another?

 

I'm probably getting on you guy's nerves by now :P

 

 

 

Oh, and do Processors come with heatsinks? Or do you have to buy those separately usually?

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Never seen a review nor product of Rosewill here in Europe, so i have no clue what quality it is (performance/components). I still recommend the Corsair 400w.

 

Cooler comes with the cpu, pre-applied paste.

 

Just make sure your case from your dads work is compatible with ATX format.

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Never seen a review nor product of Rosewill here in Europe, so i have no clue what quality it is (performance/components). I still recommend the Corsair 400w.

 

It's seems to have fairly good reviews (4/5 I believe). And I keep forgetting about the corsair haha. Wouldn't it be better to get a PSU that's 150 more watts, though?

 

Actually give me a sec, I'm going to add up the power consumption for all the parts, as 550w might just be overkill anyways.

 

edit: Yea 400W is more than enough, so I'll go with the Corsair. :)

 

 

Cooler comes with the cpu, pre-applied paste.

 

Alright, awesome.

 

 

 

Just make sure your case from your dads work is compatible with ATX format.

 

 

 

Yeah I let him know, he just gave me a confused look and said okay :P

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Your psu gives effectively 420w. It probably works fine, but i can't recommend a PSU that i've never read about... Wouldn't be nice if the whole thing went "kaboom!" and would be me to blame. Plus it got a quite a nice price too.

 

And you said last page "probably getting on you guys nerves by now", not really... We had an 8-10 page thread in winter lol.

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Your psu gives effectively 420w. It probably works fine, but i can't recommend a PSU that i've never read about... Wouldn't be nice if the whole thing went "kaboom!" and would be me to blame. Plus it got a quite a nice price too.

 

And you said last page "probably getting on you guys nerves by now", not really... We had an 8-10 page thread in winter lol.

 

 

 

Yea, that would suck majorly. I'm going to go with the corsair though, as it's gotten quite a large % of 5/5 reviews. And it's good to know that I'm not getting too annoying :P I just don't want to make some newb mistake and have my computer become unusable.

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