Bdvo89 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I haven't done construction for a long time.. literally years. What would be the most effiecient way to level it? The estimate cost? I would get the SC tool (which I have never done), so how many of those would I need? XP at level 90: 5,346,332 Current XP: 2,028,176 Needed XP: 3,318,156 Thanks in advance! OL' SCHOOL CIRCA '01, YOU MAD BRO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikachu54673 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Sacred clay hammer This tool lasts for a total of 50,750 Construction experience. That is 25,375 Construction bonus exp a tool. So, 3 318 156/50 750 = 65.3, rounded up is 66 To get the tools, go to one of the skilling worlds, games go faster and you get more points. If you've never played before don't worry, its pretty simple to figure out. Good luck! Feel free to HYT me in-game =)~~3,483rd to 99 Thieving, Feb 22, 2008~~"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want." - Calvin (& Hobbes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdvo89 Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 Sacred clay hammer This tool lasts for a total of 50,750 Construction experience. That is 25,375 Construction bonus exp a tool. So, 3 318 156/50 750 = 65.3, rounded up is 66 To get the tools, go to one of the skilling worlds, games go faster and you get more points. If you've never played before don't worry, its pretty simple to figure out. Good luck! What would you recommend I construct? As well, how long would it take to get 66 hammers? OL' SCHOOL CIRCA '01, YOU MAD BRO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexek Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I believe the most cost/time effective method would be Oak Larders in your kitchen. This would take 6913 Oak Larders at 480xp each without SC Hammers, and 3457 Oak Larders using SC Hammers. it takes 8 oak planks per larder (27656 planks), so that would be an approximate cost of 14,436,432gp, given todays current Oak Plank medium price of 522gp. As the previous poster said, you will need 66 SC Hammers in order to complete your goal. This would mean that you must obtain 1320 SC points in order to purchase all of these hammers. The skilling SC clans such as "SC Claymates" and "Fast Sc" will give you the most points per hour. With them you simply join their clan chat, go to the clan section of SC and only skill during the mini-games. They will ask you to wield a bow without arrows in your quiver, and nothing else. Then you simply collect clay as fast as you can and process it into stackable materials such as runes, arrows, and summoning scrolls. You will then deposit these at home base before the game comes to an end in order to obtain the most points you can per game. You will find that it's quite easy to score 20k+ per game, which will in turn give you 20+ points per game. This means you'll generally gain one tool per game. The games range from 12-15 minutes on average vs 20 minutes for a combat SC game. This would mean it would take you roughly 17 hours of SC in order to obtain your goal if you received 20 points per 15 minute game. I myself prefer the combat games, but I simply play for fun. Best of luck with 90 construction. : PoetryIndexed Picture 1Indexed Picture 2 Killed my maxed Zerker pure April 2010 Rebooting Runescape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pikachu54673 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I've heard oak dungeon doors are better then larders once you can make them, as they use up 10 planks at a time instead of 8. Purepure has basically covered every angle. EDIT: Won't make too much of a difference, but remember you'll be paying your butler every few trips also, so raise the cost a few hundred thousand. Feel free to HYT me in-game =)~~3,483rd to 99 Thieving, Feb 22, 2008~~"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want." - Calvin (& Hobbes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexek Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I've heard oak dungeon doors are better then larders once you can make them, as they use up 10 planks at a time instead of 8. Purepure has basically covered every angle. Oh, I forgot about those. Yeah, they are a tad faster once you can create them. Thanks. :thumbup: PoetryIndexed Picture 1Indexed Picture 2 Killed my maxed Zerker pure April 2010 Rebooting Runescape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob323 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Sorry, I don't mean to hijack but I guess it's relevant: SC hammers still give bonus xp when you make flatpacks at a workbench, correct? Good luck with your goal. And SC is my personal favorite minigame, so in my opinion it's better to play it and get the hammers than spend the extra time training the normal way. After all, RS is a game and you should be having fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdvo89 Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 I believe the most cost/time effective method would be Oak Larders in your kitchen. This would take 6913 Oak Larders at 480xp each without SC Hammers, and 3457 Oak Larders using SC Hammers. it takes 8 oak planks per larder (27656 planks), so that would be an approximate cost of 14,436,432gp, given todays current Oak Plank medium price of 522gp. As the previous poster said, you will need 66 SC Hammers in order to complete your goal. This would mean that you must obtain 1320 SC points in order to purchase all of these hammers. The skilling SC clans such as "SC Claymates" and "Fast Sc" will give you the most points per hour. With them you simply join their clan chat, go to the clan section of SC and only skill during the mini-games. They will ask you to wield a bow without arrows in your quiver, and nothing else. Then you simply collect clay as fast as you can and process it into stackable materials such as runes, arrows, and summoning scrolls. You will then deposit these at home base before the game comes to an end in order to obtain the most points you can per game. You will find that it's quite easy to score 20k+ per game, which will in turn give you 20+ points per game. This means you'll generally gain one tool per game. The games range from 12-15 minutes on average vs 20 minutes for a combat SC game. This would mean it would take you roughly 17 hours of SC in order to obtain your goal if you received 20 points per 15 minute game. I myself prefer the combat games, but I simply play for fun. Best of luck with 90 construction. : So without the hammers it would run me 14,436,432 x 2 = 28,872,864. The 17 hours spent at SC I would only need to be able to make 14,436,432 / 17 = 849,201gp/hour to cover the cost. With the construction goal of 90, I think that is a decent expenditure (29m~). I place a higher value on my time played then I do the GP in game.. Being almost 91 Slayer and only 70 RC, I still have lots of money making to go.. Very informative post, thanks a lot! OL' SCHOOL CIRCA '01, YOU MAD BRO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danqazmlp Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Can i just say, i personally find oak doors to be a worse way of trainign than larders. The main reason is the same reason people think they are good, the fact they use 10 logs. With larders, you can have 24 planks for 3 larders, noted planks, sc hammer, saw and cash for the butler in one inventory , meaning 24 planks used per trip to un-note planks by the butler. But with doors, you can only use 20 logs per un-noting trip by the butler, and leaving 4 inventory spots wasted, and 4 less planks used. My method of training was creating 2 larders, sending the butler to un-note 24 more logs, then creating a third larder while the butler was away. Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Jay99 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 Can i just say, i personally find oak doors to be a worse way of trainign than larders. The main reason is the same reason people think they are good, the fact they use 10 logs. With larders, you can have 24 planks for 3 larders, noted planks, sc hammer, saw and cash for the butler in one inventory , meaning 24 planks used per trip to un-note planks by the butler. But with doors, you can only use 20 logs per un-noting trip by the butler, and leaving 4 inventory spots wasted, and 4 less planks used. My method of training was creating 2 larders, sending the butler to un-note 24 more logs, then creating a third larder while the butler was away. Or just use a lesser butler. He's cheaper, and he arrives with 20 planks the moment you finish 2 oak dungeon doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_Ike111 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 I believe the most cost/time effective method would be Oak Larders in your kitchen. This would take 6913 Oak Larders at 480xp each without SC Hammers, and 3457 Oak Larders using SC Hammers. it takes 8 oak planks per larder (27656 planks), so that would be an approximate cost of 14,436,432gp, given todays current Oak Plank medium price of 522gp. As the previous poster said, you will need 66 SC Hammers in order to complete your goal. This would mean that you must obtain 1320 SC points in order to purchase all of these hammers. The skilling SC clans such as "SC Claymates" and "Fast Sc" will give you the most points per hour. With them you simply join their clan chat, go to the clan section of SC and only skill during the mini-games. They will ask you to wield a bow without arrows in your quiver, and nothing else. Then you simply collect clay as fast as you can and process it into stackable materials such as runes, arrows, and summoning scrolls. You will then deposit these at home base before the game comes to an end in order to obtain the most points you can per game. You will find that it's quite easy to score 20k+ per game, which will in turn give you 20+ points per game. This means you'll generally gain one tool per game. The games range from 12-15 minutes on average vs 20 minutes for a combat SC game. This would mean it would take you roughly 17 hours of SC in order to obtain your goal if you received 20 points per 15 minute game. I myself prefer the combat games, but I simply play for fun. Best of luck with 90 construction. : So without the hammers it would run me 14,436,432 x 2 = 28,872,864. The 17 hours spent at SC I would only need to be able to make 14,436,432 / 17 = 849,201gp/hour to cover the cost. With the construction goal of 90, I think that is a decent expenditure (29m~). I place a higher value on my time played then I do the GP in game.. Being almost 91 Slayer and only 70 RC, I still have lots of money making to go... Very informative post, thanks a lot! It halves your money spent, and your time spent. So basically, you won't use any more time than doing it without hammers. If you do it without hammers, you spend 2x as much money. If you do it with hammers, you save 1/2 the money, and spend the same amount of time. Plus, SC is a really fun game that may get you addicted if you decide to play on the normal worlds with combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdvo89 Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 It halves your money spent, and your time spent. So basically, you won't use any more time than doing it without hammers. If you do it without hammers, you spend 2x as much money. If you do it with hammers, you save 1/2 the money, and spend the same amount of time. Plus, SC is a really fun game that may get you addicted if you decide to play on the normal worlds with combat. So you are saying it would be faster to construct 27,656 planks plus 32 hours of SC, rather then doing 55,312 planks without hammers? I guess knowing how many planks can be used an hour would help.. Anyone know? OL' SCHOOL CIRCA '01, YOU MAD BRO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_Ike111 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 It halves your money spent, and your time spent. So basically, you won't use any more time than doing it without hammers. If you do it without hammers, you spend 2x as much money. If you do it with hammers, you save 1/2 the money, and spend the same amount of time. Plus, SC is a really fun game that may get you addicted if you decide to play on the normal worlds with combat. So you are saying it would be faster to construct 27,656 planks plus 32 hours of SC, rather then doing 55,312 planks without hammers? From what I've seen, it is the same amount of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdvo89 Posted August 19, 2009 Author Share Posted August 19, 2009 From what I've seen, it is the same amount of time. Okay thanks. Can anyone confirm this? (I will continue to do Slayer, and put half the money earned through rare drops towards the planks for level 90 con) OL' SCHOOL CIRCA '01, YOU MAD BRO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Jay99 Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 From what I've seen, it is the same amount of time. Okay thanks. Can anyone confirm this? (I will continue to do Slayer, and put half the money earned through rare drops towards the planks for level 90 con) Since the hammers make you get double the xp per plank, you'll have to use half as many planks and it will take you half the time, and halve the cost. It depends on how much money/hour you make if it's worth it to use hammers. For you, it would be worth it to use the hammers. Quoted from another topic about construction: I'm just going to calc this, rather than answering your questions, it's easier that way. Sc isn't that hard to get used to. If you do non combat sc it takes about 12 minutes/game, so we'll assume 14 mins/game including starting again and stuff. You should be able to average 23 points/game or 98.5 points/hour. So, 5 tools per hour. One sc hammer gives 50k construction xp. You can use about 3.5k planks/hour making oak doors, or 210k xp/hour without hammers. 25/210 = 0.12, so 7.2 minutes to use an sc hammer. It takes another 14 minutes to get that hammer. You have to bank for hammers too and of course you will mess up once in a while, so that's a total of about 22 minutes for 50k xp, or 136k xp/hour. That 136k xp will cost you 136000/120 = 1133 planks. You have to pay the butler 5k (yeah use the normal butler) every 120 planks, so that adds 40 gp/plank. 1133*560 = 635k. 4.67 gp/xp. Not using hammers it takes 39 minutes to get 136k xp, and that costs you 2266 planks or 1269k. So, you get the same xp in 21 minutes less, at the cost of 634k. So, if you think you can make over 1811k/hour at armadyl, don't use sc hammers. If you use normal sc it will take you 82 minutes for 136k xp, so you save 43 minutes by spending 634k more, 884k/hour. In short: Using fast sc for the hammers, it's best use use sc hammers. If you use normal sc for the hammers, doing armadyl for the extra money might be worth it. It's not that hard to get used to, about an hour max. If you try it and you don't like it, just go with arma for the money, even if that takes a bit longer. And, the total cost/time needed: 91 hours at a total cost of 57.8m using fast sc. 124 hours at a total cost of 57.8m using normal sc. 59 hours at a total cost of 115m not using hammers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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