squidsquash Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 As the topic says, I don't have enough points to cancel these so I have to kill em :( My stats consist of: 78 Hitpoints 80 Strength 76 Attack 75 Defence 64 Ranged 55 Magic 31 Summoning 53 Prayer How should I go about this task? I have no idea what to do here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsGuy Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 As the topic says, I don't have enough points to cancel these so I have to kill em :( My stats consist of: 78 Hitpoints 80 Strength 76 Attack 75 Defence 64 Ranged 55 Magic 31 Summoning How should I go about this task? I have no idea what to do here... I didn't see anything in your topic about your points, but that's not the point... Outfit as you would for any dragon task, but you will need to use Antifire potions, unlike the non-metals. There are tons of guides out there, but I've always felt like I get more out of a task like this if I overprepare the first time and then dial things back as I get more comfortable. If you're going to melee, you'll want to pray melee, use a shield that blocks dragonfire (DFS or ADF), and bring prayer potions and antifire potions, not to mention food. The trick will be to get yourself positioned so that ONLY Iron Dragons are going to fight you in the Brimhaven Dungeon...stay away from Steel Dragons because you might have to run a long way to get one that targets you to lose interest. I like turning off auto-retaliate, too. Again, there are lots of guides out there...including one on this site. I usually ignore the set-up guidelines because the people that write the guides usually have tons of high priced gear and don't realize that not everyone has access to that sort of stuff, especially if they're fighting these things for the first time. The tips are good to know...you can tailor your gear and methods with more and more experience. Here's the Tip.It guide Iron/Steel Dragons [hide=My Stats]Attack:86/Hitpoints:88/Mining:74Strength:86/Agility:76/Smithing:75Defence:86/Herblore:74/Fishing:78Ranged:86/Thieving:73/Cooking:92Prayer:78/Crafting:82/Firemaking:86Magic:85/Fletching:77/Woodcutting:88Runecraft:71/Slayer:80/Farming:88Construction:70/Hunter:70/Summoning:69Dungeoneering:18Total level: 1936295/303 Quest PointsCombat Level: 117[/hide][hide=Interesting Links]My BlogSportsGuy's Short Guide to Ghostly WarriorsFamiliarisation Reward Research[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squidsquash Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 It was a good guide, I learned a lot from it, but I have two problems/questions remaining. What are those potions in the "Recommended setup" section of the guide? And about how many iron dragons am I looking to kill per trip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsGuy Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 It was a good guide, I learned a lot from it, but I have two problems/questions remaining. What are those potions in the "Recommended setup" section of the guide? And about how many iron dragons am I looking to kill per trip? As I mentioned, don't worry about set-ups. Many guides will tell you that you have to bring Ranging potions when Ranging and Super Attack and Super Strength when meleeing...I say it all depends on your levels. If you're killing them and not on a task, then getting the most out of trips might include making quick ones which will mean potions will help...on Slayer tasks (first time trips to dangerous monsters) you just need to worry about surviving. In the melee set-up, the purples are Antifire potions (necessity), the blues are Super Attacks (MAYBE bring one), the whites are Super Strengths (MAYBE bring one). Unless you're burying the Dragon bones (which, at the prices they are at now, would be stupid), you're going to fill up your inventory fast. Don't bother picking up the iron bars. I don't know how much you'll get out of your prayer, but bring more prayer potions and more food than you think you'll need...and as I mentioned, see how your first run goes (watch your adrenaline...stay calm for your first couple of kills) and then see how many you get before you have to bank in order to avoid dropping full potions or food. Go back with a little less and gradually you'll hit that sweet spot and you'll remember that for future runs. Guides here frequently aren't made for first time runs, so just keep that in mind... [hide=My Stats]Attack:86/Hitpoints:88/Mining:74Strength:86/Agility:76/Smithing:75Defence:86/Herblore:74/Fishing:78Ranged:86/Thieving:73/Cooking:92Prayer:78/Crafting:82/Firemaking:86Magic:85/Fletching:77/Woodcutting:88Runecraft:71/Slayer:80/Farming:88Construction:70/Hunter:70/Summoning:69Dungeoneering:18Total level: 1936295/303 Quest PointsCombat Level: 117[/hide][hide=Interesting Links]My BlogSportsGuy's Short Guide to Ghostly WarriorsFamiliarisation Reward Research[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squidsquash Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 Alright thanks man, I till have some super stuff stashed up, I'll bring and attack, strength, maybe 2-3 prayer pots, 5 anti fires and the rest in shark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legionwizard Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 I'm pretty bad at range so I use either melee or mage, so far it's always been melee, anyway I use: neit helm, stole, prayer boosting cape, full prossy, fury, barrow gloves, d boots, ring of wealth and unholy book So the main idea is to put a lot on pray to spare out pray pots. In your inventory I'd say 6 monks, 6 pray pots, 4 anti fires, 2 super att, 2 super str, holy wrench. Don't forget hatchet and money. I I'd use melee I'd use full void mage with claws of guthix prolly, but this might be bad advise, I'm no expert in mage. Achieved quest (07/08/2009), woodcutting (28/06/2010), attack (21/07/2010), strength + constitution (07/08/2010), defence (26/09/2010), summoning (13/01/2011), herblore (03/03/2011), cook (31/08/2012), firemaking (01/09/2012), magic (08/09/2012), prayer (16/09/2012) and ranged (29/10/2012) capes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsGuy Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Alright thanks man, I till have some super stuff stashed up, I'll bring and attack, strength, maybe 2-3 prayer pots, 5 anti fires and the rest in shark? As I mentioned, your first trip should be short...one each of the super set would be fine and you probably only need one or two doses. Antifire potions...you definitely don't need that many. One , maybe two full vials is probably all you'll use and if you run out of protection before that, then you're dropping stuff you probably shouldn't or something went wrong. You will need more prayer potions, but again, over-prepare for your first trip. I would bring sharks for your first trip, but you'll probably discover that you can get by easily with monkfish or even less if you're set up correctly...that's something that you'll figure out. You'll need a hatchet, but you can get a bronze in Brimhaven if you forget. Definitely bring a one-click teleport in case something goes really wrong. POH tabs are getting cheaper with the new "make-all" option in a recent update...buy a couple for this task. [hide=My Stats]Attack:86/Hitpoints:88/Mining:74Strength:86/Agility:76/Smithing:75Defence:86/Herblore:74/Fishing:78Ranged:86/Thieving:73/Cooking:92Prayer:78/Crafting:82/Firemaking:86Magic:85/Fletching:77/Woodcutting:88Runecraft:71/Slayer:80/Farming:88Construction:70/Hunter:70/Summoning:69Dungeoneering:18Total level: 1936295/303 Quest PointsCombat Level: 117[/hide][hide=Interesting Links]My BlogSportsGuy's Short Guide to Ghostly WarriorsFamiliarisation Reward Research[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runoilija92 Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 IF you are gonna melee, take best prayer boosting armor, super attack, super str, ~~10prayer pots, ~~10anti firebreath pots, anti dragon shield. You dont need ANY food. remember that u need hatchet + 875gp to get there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squidsquash Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 I don't see how I wouldn't need food, if I pray melee it could still get me with it's breath? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 I don't see how I wouldn't need food, if I pray melee it could still get me with it's breath? If you pray (if meleeing, if you are ranging or maging you won't need to pray if you space yourself out), use anti-fires, and anti-fire shield, you do not need food, except for emergencies. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob323 Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 I don't see how I wouldn't need food, if I pray melee it could still get me with it's breath? You don't need food because with the anti-dragonfire shield and anti-dragonfire potions, you have 100% protection from the dragonfire. Add in the protect from melee prayer, and you take no damage at all. Just remember to re-pot when you see the message "Your resistance to dragonfire has run out!" or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squidsquash Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 OK sweet, this task shouldnt be too hard then, thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phrost Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 I don't see how I wouldn't need food, if I pray melee it could still get me with it's breath? Not if you use antifire potions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squidsquash Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 What can I get cheap that boosts my prayer up big time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordThyse Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 What can I get cheap that boosts my prayer up big time? Proselyte Boooooooooochackalackaaa!!! >:o Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob323 Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 What can I get cheap that boosts my prayer up big time? Proselyte Really your only other option is monk robes- same prayer bonus, far less defence. Unless you have/can afford some god vestments. Edit: Proselyte chest actually gives 2 more prayer than monk top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atom Smash40 Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 uhmm...wouldnt it be better to mage them? though he does have 55 ~ 3,072nd to 99 Mining on August 30th, 2009 ~~ 112,084th to 99 Magic on April 16th, 2011 ~~ 131,681st to 99 Crafting on March 29, 2019 ~~ 178,385th to 99 Prayer on April 2, 2019 ~~ 234,921st to 99 Defence on May 9, 2019 ~~ 173,480th to 99 Herblore on June 21, 2019 ~~ 155,160th to 99 Smithing on July 16, 2019 ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsGuy Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Melee at his levels...and don't listen to people saying you need 10 antifire potions. That's utterly ridiculous. You are not camping out there. You have a task of 44. Just try a few out as I mentioned and see what you can handle, because everyone's style is different. Follow the tips (but not the set-ups) on the guide here on the site. You're not asking how to kill these for profit, so don't pay attention to people telling you to do it. Just kill what you have to and move on. [hide=My Stats]Attack:86/Hitpoints:88/Mining:74Strength:86/Agility:76/Smithing:75Defence:86/Herblore:74/Fishing:78Ranged:86/Thieving:73/Cooking:92Prayer:78/Crafting:82/Firemaking:86Magic:85/Fletching:77/Woodcutting:88Runecraft:71/Slayer:80/Farming:88Construction:70/Hunter:70/Summoning:69Dungeoneering:18Total level: 1936295/303 Quest PointsCombat Level: 117[/hide][hide=Interesting Links]My BlogSportsGuy's Short Guide to Ghostly WarriorsFamiliarisation Reward Research[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squidsquash Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 I am certainly not profiting, you wouldn't believe the prayer pots I'm going through >.> I need to bring my mage up and ranged up REALLY badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovorette Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 What gear did you decide to take? Maybe there are some adjustments that will help with your prayer drain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squidsquash Posted August 26, 2009 Author Share Posted August 26, 2009 Helm of Neitiznot (HEAD) Monk Robe (CHEST) Monk Robe (LEGS) Dragon Boots (FEET) Anti Dragon Shield (LEFT HAND) Holy Symbol (NECKLACE) Abyssal Whip (RIGHT HAND) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovorette Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 Proselyte chest would help a little. But only if you need to bank anyway. If you don't have a black mask, then definitely use super strength and super attack potions so you can rip through them faster to save time and therefore potions. Also, if you have the Holy Wrench from the Rum Deal quest, you should use it. Too bad prayer potions are so expensive and hard to come by lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danjen Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I'm only marginally stronger than you are, and I'm able to down steels for profit when I'm doing slayer. You can kill them with a lot of expensive gear, or on a budget. This is my melee setup: Head: Slayer Helm / Black Mask - This is almost a necessity. What is it, +10% more attack to your slayer targets? That's like having an attack potion on at all times. Body: Proselyte Chest - Easy to get, and a good prayer boost. Legs: Proselyte Legs - Same as above. Neck: Glory / Fury - Both increase your damage output. Either is good. Ring: Any - Doesn't really matter, but I like to bring a wealth, just in case something special drops. :) Wrist: Dragon Slayer Gloves / Combat Bracelet - If you can stand doing Fist of Guthix, get the gloves, since they add another percentage boost to your attack and strength, I believe. Else, combat braclet, since the stats are good, plus it tracks your slayer task. Weapon: The best 1h weapon you can afford. For most people tihs should be the whip or Dragon Scimitar. Offhand: Anti-Dragonfire Shield - This is a MUST. You WILL die unless you have this. Inventory: 1x Food (I like to use shark) 2-3x Antifire Potion(4) (To completely negate breath damage, with the shield) 3x Prayer Potion(4) (to increase the time you are immune to their melee damage) 1x Hatchet (to get there) 905x gold (30 to get from Ardougne, and 875 to enter dungeon) The way I turn a profit from this is to bring a Terrorbird with me for an extra 12 slots, and pick up every bar and bones they drop. Avoid the throwing weapons if you can, since they generally sell poorly. Leave shortly after your inventory is full. I know you're not hunting them for profit, but you can still try to minimize your losses by fighting smart. :) Seriously, once you have protect from melee on, a shield, and anti pot up, you can roll your face on the keyboard until it dies, or you need to refresh your resistance or prayer. Killing them is super-easy once you get the hang of it. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptbaker08 Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I'm only marginally stronger than you are, and I'm able to down steels for profit when I'm doing slayer. You can kill them with a lot of expensive gear, or on a budget. This is my melee setup: [hide=Gear]Head: Slayer Helm / Black Mask - This is almost a necessity. What is it, +10% more attack to your slayer targets? That's like having an attack potion on at all times. Body: Proselyte Chest - Easy to get, and a good prayer boost. Legs: Proselyte Legs - Same as above. Neck: Glory / Fury - Both increase your damage output. Either is good. Ring: Any - Doesn't really matter, but I like to bring a wealth, just in case something special drops. :) Wrist: Dragon Slayer Gloves / Combat Bracelet - If you can stand doing Fist of Guthix, get the gloves, since they add another percentage boost to your attack and strength, I believe. Else, combat braclet, since the stats are good, plus it tracks your slayer task. Weapon: The best 1h weapon you can afford. For most people tihs should be the whip or Dragon Scimitar. Offhand: Anti-Dragonfire Shield - This is a MUST. You WILL die unless you have this.[/hide] [hide=Inventory]1x Food (I like to use shark) 2-3x Antifire Potion(4) (To completely negate breath damage, with the shield) 3x Prayer Potion(4) (to increase the time you are immune to their melee damage) 1x Hatchet (to get there) 905x gold (30 to get from Ardougne, and 875 to enter dungeon)[/hide] The way I turn a profit from this is to bring a Terrorbird with me for an extra 12 slots, and pick up every bar and bones they drop. Avoid the throwing weapons if you can, since they generally sell poorly. Leave shortly after your inventory is full. I know you're not hunting them for profit, but you can still try to minimize your losses by fighting smart. :) Seriously, once you have protect from melee on, a shield, and anti pot up, you can roll your face on the keyboard until it dies, or you need to refresh your resistance or prayer. Killing them is super-easy once you get the hang of it. :thumbsup: The smarter thing would be to leave the bars so you have more room for the bones. The bars are bad, and the d bones are worth much more. Another thing is you could try a Leaf-Bladed sword, on stab, to kill them. Whip is ok but since the dragons are weak to stab this might have a better chance. Now at higher attack levels a whip is the best to use. And its 15% attack and str with the mask/helm/ [hide=Drops]Slayer:Draconic Visage x3, Abyssal Whip x23, Dark Bow x3, Dragon Platelegs x3, Dragon Boots x40, Dragon Plateskirt x4, Shield Left Half x3, Dragon Medium Helms x10GWD:CS: Zamorakian Spear x2, Zamorak Hilt x1, Bandos Chestplate x1, Sara Sword x1DKs: Dragon Hatchet x3 Beserker Ring x1[/hide][hide=Completed Goals]Achieved April 26, 2009Achieved Sept. 15, 2009Achieved Nov. 21, 2009 Jan. 10, 2010 Achieved Mar. 5, 2010[/hide][hide=Goals][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportsGuy Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 The smarter thing would be to leave the bars so you have more room for the bones. The bars are bad, and the d bones are worth much more. Another thing is you could try a Leaf-Bladed sword, on stab, to kill them. Whip is ok but since the dragons are weak to stab this might have a better chance. Now at higher attack levels a whip is the best to use. And its 15% attack and str with the mask/helm/ I agree...even Mithril bars aren't profitable enough non-noted to care about when fighting Mithril Dragons. Pick up the bars to fill up inventory spaces before you leave, of course, but don't take them if you've still got prayer to use. Don't bother with anything but an Abyssal whip, since you already have it. If you didn't have it, some other type of sword with a stab would be good, but you have the attack levels necessary and you said you were potting anyway. A black mask would be a good investment if you'll be doing a lot of Slaying. You'll need one to make a Slayer helm later on in your Slaying career anyway. I would look through your entire inventory for Prayer boosting items if you're going through prayer pots like crazy. Here is my current best prayer boosting gear: [hide=Prayer Boost]Helm> Guthix mitre > Proselyte sallet > Initiate sallet = Helm of neitiznot = Seers' headband 3 Body> Proselyte hauberk > Initiate hauberk = Monk's robe top Legs> Proselyte cuisse = Initiate cuisse = Monk's robe bottom Gloves> White gloves Boots> Bandos boots = White boots Necklace> Guthix stole > Holy symbol = Unholy symbol Cape> Guthix cloak Ring> Explorer's ring 3 Shield> Falador shield 3 Weapon> Guthix crozier[/hide] I'd wear Initiate if you can't buy Proselyte stuff yet, even though it's equal to Monk's robe in prayer boost. Why? Because you can get away with it as melee gear before you get there or if prayer runs out. Monk's robes are terrible for dealing with melee attacks. If you can't unlock the White gloves purchase from the White Knight armoury, then you're probably out of luck there. Wear something like Barrows gloves instead (if you could afford those) or a Combat bracelet. I sometimes wear Barrows instead when Praying against monsters, just because I can get away with it. Investing in a cape with Prayer is good, but I got lucky over the months getting TT clues with Guthix vestments in it. OBVIOUSLY, you want to use a whip, but the crozier is included because it's the highest boosting item in that slot. How did I discover all that stuff? I sorted it using Tip.It's stat sorter. It's not perfect (and some features are missing from it that I'd like included on there), but I used it to sort through every type of boost and defence I have (see my blog for that). First, click on the item slot you'll be sorting through. Then click on "Prayer" in the name row after sorting for items (or use this link each time before starting). Go from the top down until you see something you own. That should be the best prayer boosting item for you. Repeat for the other equipment slots. Remember, there are trade-offs for using certain items, so make sure you can still do damage at whatever levels you have (example, using White gloves instead of Barrows gloves might not be worth the 1 point prayer boost instead of great stats that Barrows gloves provide if you can wear them). [hide=My Stats]Attack:86/Hitpoints:88/Mining:74Strength:86/Agility:76/Smithing:75Defence:86/Herblore:74/Fishing:78Ranged:86/Thieving:73/Cooking:92Prayer:78/Crafting:82/Firemaking:86Magic:85/Fletching:77/Woodcutting:88Runecraft:71/Slayer:80/Farming:88Construction:70/Hunter:70/Summoning:69Dungeoneering:18Total level: 1936295/303 Quest PointsCombat Level: 117[/hide][hide=Interesting Links]My BlogSportsGuy's Short Guide to Ghostly WarriorsFamiliarisation Reward Research[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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