Master_Oku Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 The Skill: It will be really cool to be able to practice Alchemy in runescape. I mean the Alchemy that was studied in the Medievil Times, of course being able to use more mysticism than the real life. Alchemy is define as a transformation process. In history, it was studied to basically make any metal and transform it into gold or silver. How will it work?: The goal of the alchemist is to make metals, any metals, to a more pure metal, lets say, being able to transmute(transform/change) a black long sword to a mithiral long sword(it could be anytime of weapon,armor maybe. ore, bar, etc). In order for that to happen, the alchemist will need (these will be new item and gatherings for runescape) acids(like; sulfuric,or any other type) types of minerals(for example, limestone), any other types of items(which i need help on). Then the alchemist will need special devices(some basic like:pots and pans, etc) like lab tubes( the ones the medievil alchemists would use) and mix these material together( which the alchemist can use a local furnace) to make a watery blue substance(mith) and once he or she pures it on to the black long sword, the sword transmutes into a long mith sword.(Maybe; it can fail, can brake the sword,any ideas for this part?) The New Items: Like i said in the last paragraph, there will be acids and new earth materials, potions, and etc, of items introduce to runescape. Maybe Through these experiments, an alchemist can make new armor like, gold and silver(meaning transmute an iron sword to a gold sword) More ideas on this part would be a great help. Quest: There will be quest for every low level to high level alchemist. Like for the low levels, basic alchemy would be use to help someone or do some basic experiments. For the high level alchemist, there will quest such as, In Search for the Philosopher's stone(in people actually try to persue it). Alchemic Medice(making elixirs; which was said to make people feel better or make life longer). Any more ideas for this paragraph? Special Items: The Philosopher's stone will be like. the dragon or rune armor for the warriors. This stone can be crafted(using high level crafting) to a ring or neckless and now being able to transmute(depending on what metal he or she is trying to use on) without to gather and mix materials. He or she can probaly use this stone a number of times before it brakes or runs out of power(in which be bought again or recharge for a large fee). Elixir vitae can be used for unlimited life or extra health points for a small amount of time. Once again, i need more idea put into this. Advantage: This skill can be for anyone. Players are able to "make" black armor and also be able to create new ones too. Can learn great deal of some alchemy studied in real life(which some people today are still studying alchemy). It can also be a great influence to those wanting to be in a science career for example; chemistry(chemistry was born out of alchemy), biology, etc. New challenges in runescape. Can make some good cash out it. Disadvantage: Can be kind of boring, depend on how a person looks at it. A members only skill. Can have alot of task for a certain transmutation process. Okay I kind done, plz post your opinions, don't be too harsh, and if any ideas you have for this skill., plz post them. This good be a real great skill to be use in runescape. Also, u can look up alchemy websites by using your favorite search engine(Yahoo). Okay. Later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb04 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 well this would turn out to be members only. you should think of f2p stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barihawk Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 Unfortunately, JAGex has already introduced alchemy into the game, purely meaning turning common items into gold. And prepare for n00bs to completely flame you about ripping off Full Metal Alchemist. The word transmute is not a real alchemic term. In all other regards, a well thought out and detailed idea. My heart is broken by the terrible loss I have sustained in my old friends and companions and my poor soldiers. Believe me, nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won. -Sir Arthur Wellesley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Oku Posted October 28, 2005 Author Share Posted October 28, 2005 You got a good point about already theres alchemy in runescape barihawk. but is only for mages. I want everyone to get the chance to be able to use alchemy, and why not also expand the use of alchemy like transforming metals into more pure metals. And since it was practice in Medievil Times, this would a perfect fit for the game. Also, the alchemy i am talking about is completly different from the show Fullmetal Alchemist(i dont want the use of transmutaion circles). Like I said, if anyone reading this is unfamiliar of the real alchemy, use your search engine and type alchemy, there would many sites talking the practice of alchemy( i am still researching it) . One last thing, the reason I want alchemy for members only skill is cause of the new materials are gonna be introduce, but if any one has an idea on how to make it free, please post them. Ty you for your comments and opinions barihawk and djb04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barihawk Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 In that case, I think it is a good idea. I looked at a few of those sites. The "philosopher's stone" should be kept out of the picture for a few months after the skill's release. Then it should be given a fairly difficult quest. My heart is broken by the terrible loss I have sustained in my old friends and companions and my poor soldiers. Believe me, nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won. -Sir Arthur Wellesley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Oku Posted October 28, 2005 Author Share Posted October 28, 2005 Cool, thank you, plz if any one else reading this, try to look up alchemy websites and post any ideas for this suggestions. I want everyone to use there imagination and help make alchemy a really good skill. Once again Ty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiden2k2 Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 I know a guy who's transmutating lead into gold bars in his basement. It's actually easy, because lead is only a few protons per atom or so away from being gold, hence the expression "Turning lead into gold". Apparently it can take years to manage, though. But anyways, I don't like this idea. It's just not really easy to implement into Runescape. It'd be like people thought farming was when it came out, only.. You know.. .. Remain terrible. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Oku Posted October 28, 2005 Author Share Posted October 28, 2005 Thats pretty cool of how that one dude is using alchemy to turn lead into gold. Pretty good point on how you compared alchemy being the same as farming. Well then, what would make this skill more interesting? Maybe, perform alchemy on plants, trees or even animals? Don't forget that alchemy can be perform on weapons(which includes, melee, range or even mage), ores, bars, armor, etc. But, once again, how would you make this skill fun? Anyone can answer these questions. Ty Raiden2k2 for your comment and opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Oku Posted October 29, 2005 Author Share Posted October 29, 2005 bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurofighter Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 free bump :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Love the idea because (as said it the book wizzard) makeing items into gold is one thing but into gold coins? Basicly it just dont work like that... The Skill: The skill would be fun to train. 'I use the golden hyper powerful dragon armor. Hehe How will it work?: Making metals in to higher metals but more specificly gold, sliver, plantinum(Spelling?) in runescape its more Gold, Dragon, Barrows. There for you need to be 100% accurate about what you are saying transmuting(is a technical term) means (techniclly speaking) turning stuff into gold. Not into higher metals, it should be just be into gold, sliver of plantinum. This makes it so much simpler to understand. This also means you dont get people boosting up items to drag standards. The New Items: Items would be like golden iron sword it looks golden it acts golden but has the same repective elements as iron because gold is useless as a weapon just a blurite is as a weapon. Gold is just there to look good. And to turn elements into other elements you need to use radioactivity not acids. But in respects to the game and magic you would need stuff like essance of earth, air, water and the power of fire(ever tried putting fire in a vial?). Then mixing them into unidentifed potions that you then had to put onto swords if the potion is not correct then both of the vial and the item turn to golden junk which is then used on a furnace to give you encrusted gold(depending on the potencey of the potion you can get up to 1000 bars although is extremely rare and the potion needs be mixed and cooled and heated and then cool then harden then burnt then cooled then exposed to high lvl magic then frozen then enchanted at all 4 of the element areas then heated then used with an item which then will most likely turn into golden vapour which you need to catch in about 20 pots then taken to the makeover mage and turned into 20 gold pots which are super dence and need to be smelted in the blast furnace with 30 coal each then you can turn all that into from 100-1000 gold bars, and you are only ever able to carry one potion at a time) then you need to use a mold to get a molten gold mixture, then you need to scrap off the slag and then finally use the mold with the furnace and you get 1 gold bar from each mold. Get your head round that! Quest: There would be no quest it would happen the next time you alched an item there would be a shineing light and you would be tranported to the alchemy tower where you would learn the secrets of alchemy while running forms around the tower. You go to reception and ask what is this place you would then get a pass and be told to go to window XX there you would be told a few bits of infomation about alchemy, then told to take a form to window XX and so on and so forth. At the end of this you are given a quick test to find out what you know if you score 50%-70% you get to lvl 2 alchemy and are teled out the tower back to where you where now able to use alchemy. If you got 76%-90% you lvl 5 alchemy and teled out and so on. If you got 91%+ then you get lvl 10 alchemy and teled up the tower to the top lvl where you are told more and more about alchemy at which point an explosion goes off, the tower shake and your teacher run off, you are left in the room and you get a animation of you triping over a loose stone where you find a book entitled the darkness of alchemy, at the end there is a map of the tower you are in and you can see the people running around and a huge golden wave making them into gold, you are then free to work out what happens when you hit certain places on the map to turn the course of the wave. If you get it lost in the celler then people are angry that you have destroyed there valuble wine and replaced it with 10 barrels of gold vapour which has been transfered to your bank. You are then teled out with lvl 15 alchemy and more importantly a map that will show and de/activate trap and secret doors. Special Items: See above, gold vapour, encrusted gold, The map, Gold pots/barrels, a mold and the essance and the power of fire. And you may also find a golden Phial, One per person And i liked this. Elixir vitae can be used for unlimited life or extra health points for a small amount of time. And also extends the time you can stay immune to poison Advantage: All of this means that we are not as board as we were and we can make tons of money and we can live longer and we can now find secret doors(access to hidden rooms and new alchemy items ie essances.) Disadvantage: Can be kind of boring, depend on how a person looks at it. A members only skill. Can have alot of task for a certain transmutation process. Other: You will be able to use a hammer with a 500 runestones making: Earth dust from earth runes, which then used with a golden phial(technical term) to make earth phial. Water rune have to be broken with the golden phial in the inventory otherwise you get hit by a water wave. Fire runes can be smashed into a golden phial, these sever to fuse the essance inside. Where as Air runes are not broken simply add a single rune to the mixture whole. This the basic mixture (fire runes ALWAYS used last after that it is done and the potion can only be used not added to. The following are addons to increase potancy but have side effects. All use 500 runes each time. The cancel effect works once. ie useing 1000 chaos and 500 body means that both take effect. All other effects are temp after the potion is used to make something. Law runes make it so that it is a potion not a alchemy mixture. Mind runes are used to speed up the mixures effects, ie works for more. Mind runes cancel the effects of body runes. And they decrease attack. Body runes are used to make the mixture bigger and there for may become self sustaining ie. works for a greatly extended time. Body runes cancel the effects of chaos runes. And increase Hp Chaos runes are used to make the mixture act in strange ways ie. random Chaos runes cancel the effects of nature runes. And increase strengh. Nature runes are used to increase the potency of the entire potion. ie mutiply the effects by 2(500 runes =1000 runes, and 2* the temp) Nature runes cancel the effects of death runes. And increase herblore. Death runes are used to kill off unwanted side effects ie. the mind one Death runes cancel the effects of Blood runes. And half health.(NEVER use in more than one dose) Blood runes are used to focus the effects ie. lasts 5* as long and 5* as strong. Blood runes cancel the effects of soul runes. And strip all skills to 30. Soul runes are not used as they cause the mixture to turn you into gold. ie. dead Soul runes cancel the effects of law runes. And increase all skills to 80. Law runes are used control the mixture entirely seperating the runes. ie nothing gets canceled except for the turning into gold. Law runes cancel the main effect. And Gives 10 free teleports. And I think that it... http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nefhi Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 ok, seriously, how long did it take you to come up with the idea of that all, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadburys_egg Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 well this would turn out to be members only. you should think of f2p stuff Duh itll be members only. Why should f2p get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Not as long as you might think. Im amazingly sad and have tonnes of time on my hands. The real question is why shouldn't they have it. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nefhi Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 hm you worked it all out nicely though looks kinda cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmentail Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 I know a guy who's transmutating lead into gold bars in his basement. It's actually easy, because lead is only a few protons per atom or so away from being gold, hence the expression "Turning lead into gold". Apparently it can take years to manage, though. Yeah... The problem is the gold is radioactive.. :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 I think that was in my post(I have no idea and it takes too long read AGAIN) Oh and I have beat everyone else, I turned a Lump of Au into A lump of gold. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barihawk Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 I think that was in my post(I have no idea and it takes too long read AGAIN) Oh and I have beat everyone else, I turned a Lump of Au into A lump of gold. Congrats. When you turn a lump of Pb into a lump of gold, I will be impressed. OMG! I turned Ag into Silver! My heart is broken by the terrible loss I have sustained in my old friends and companions and my poor soldiers. Believe me, nothing except a battle lost can be half so melancholy as a battle won. -Sir Arthur Wellesley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 well done. Im really proud of... i can keep this up. http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Oku Posted October 29, 2005 Author Share Posted October 29, 2005 Wow, alot of good ideas, i really like on how you explained it archimage_a. I also think there should, after a while with this skill, have a quest called "In Search For The Philosopher's stone" in which a high level alchemist has to look a for a stone that once obtain, use alchemy without the basic ingridients. But, will this skill require anytime of level magic? Cause u mentioned alot of runes. Plz, keep bringing ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 ummm no the rune get smashed to peices and requires no magic att all. Add the quest will not be a great improvement as the basic mixture it 500 earth 500 water 500 fire and 1 air, then any number of rune you would like to add, in the end it all ends up as the same you get a hell of a gold bars by going through it, Just do say it make them into gold coins cos that jsut plain thick http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runesmithie Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 500 runes is seriously over the top... maybe 10. max. I just posted something! ^_^ to the terrorist...er... kirbybeam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archimage_a Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Not when you consider the reward, and besides we want this potion as powerful as phisically possible dont we http://www.uzzisoft..../archimage.jpegWell I knew you wouldn't agree. I know how you hate facing facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Oku Posted October 30, 2005 Author Share Posted October 30, 2005 bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E_D_G_E_1039 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 well this would turn out to be members only. you should think of f2p stuff Of course it would be members only...? Why wouldn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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