LAMAAH Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 I used linux. It is very good OS. But it's quite hard to use it (if you are a new 1). I used: Mandrake, Gentoo, Slackware, Red Hat (Now known as Fedora CORE), Debian, Knoppix, Kanotix, Baltix and some others Unix-Like OS (FreeBSD, NetBSD)....I like them. They are safe and PHR33! :)) P.S. I know only 2 Keyloggers for linux. P.S.S. Linux uses Multi-Users system so there is hard to work for the programs as Viruses, Troy Horses and other bad soft ;]] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjbj1991 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 how many windows programs are compatible with linix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 how many windows programs are compatible with linix? About 1% Ok maybe thats a bit of an underestimate but theres really not many programs for the average user. Linus is primerilly a developer OS or for a person who wants to have a play with coding and the like. You certainly wont be able to play your games on it. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaN Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 You certainly wont be able to play your games on it. You can use wmware to host a vitural windows machine then run the games inside the virtual machine ;) Altho technically it would be windows running the game. ~Dan64AuSince 27 Aug 2002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Emulators lag tho and it certainly wouldn't be as smooth and as fast as on a Windows machine. I dont mean it as a negative thing trying to convince people to not use Linux, i'm just being sensible here and as the current software market is Linux just isnt a viable option for most people. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjbj1991 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 You certainly wont be able to play your games on it. You can use wmware to host a vitural windows machine then run the games inside the virtual machine ;) Altho technically it would be windows running the game. so would i be able to run everything that runs on windows with it?i dont care about speed and also do i need anything for me to install linux other than the cds so will i need an adapeter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vape Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 You certainly wont be able to play your games on it.You can use wmware to host a vitural windows machine then run the games inside the virtual machine ;)Altho technically it would be windows running the game.so would i be able to run everything that runs on windows with it?i dont care about speed and also do i need anything for me to install linux other than the cds so will i need an adapeter?Depends on what you mean by everything you run on windows. Most things you want to do (word processing, web browsing, instant messaging, multimedia, image editing, etc) will run just fine, or even better, for free. You could always partition your harddrive and run both for a while (I think.) Where the bloody hell are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____ Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Dual-boot works for me :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augsback Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Mandrake is personally one of my favorites also with Red Hat, even tho a lot are out dated. :( But the one thing I love about linux is that its free as you explained. Also as you said it is very hard to understand if you are a first time user, it took me a while to get it but once you understand it, its all down hill after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaN Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 You certainly wont be able to play your games on it.You can use wmware to host a vitural windows machine then run the games inside the virtual machine ;)Altho technically it would be windows running the game.so would i be able to run everything that runs on windows with it?i dont care about speed and also do i need anything for me to install linux other than the cds so will i need an adapeter?Depends on what you mean by everything you run on windows. Most things you want to do (word processing, web browsing, instant messaging, multimedia, image editing, etc) will run just fine, or even better, for free. You could always partition your harddrive and run both for a while (I think.) Like Cameron says most things you do in windows can be done in Linux. I should point out tho that you maynot beable to run the same applications (unless there are Linux versions avalible) for example your not going to run MicrosoftOffice on Linux instead you can use OpenOffice.org wich is a perfect replacement for msoffice and has both linux and windows versions (Windows users might want to check it out aswell, i highly reccomend it) ~Dan64AuSince 27 Aug 2002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mementh Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 WINE an run just about anything that can run on windows 98 wich is just about any program out there.. wine stands for Wine Is Not a Emulator it takes the program calls that the programs would use for windows and interprestes them to linux calls.. almsot no extra cpu or processing needed The following statement is true. The previous statement is false. 60% of all statistics are made up 90% of the time andrew i love you & want you to have my babys!!! Finally, I get to save the Earth with deadly lasers instead of deadly slide shows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1337 Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Thank you mementh, I was just about to mention WINE. Linux requires fewer system resources than Windows, so it's faster. It's far safer, and its FREE! This is why Linux is the best thing since frozen waffles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
____ Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 This is why Linux is the best thing since frozen waffles. But frozen waffles are crap :hsugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mementh Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Thank you mementh, I was just about to mention WINE. Linux requires fewer system resources than Windows, so it's faster. It's far safer, and its FREE! This is why Linux is the best thing since frozen waffles. i will say this though... linux's main problem to being a adoption is that its still too geeky to be mainstream it still does not have all the api calls.... it needs to feel like windows out of the box... no multiple desktops.. no power user setup Also they need to get together and settle on one MAJOR kernel update ever 5 years... make patches and the like but make one MAJOR version of linux and you can have all the flavors you want in the background but have ONE JUST ONE "linux" install.. this would be a base code setup for the [wagon]es (like most of us are) and have a basic update system setup make it easy to use easy to manage but have the power user options just put in the back for those that want to learn ..... it needs to be simple boot up and run ........... i think its almost there.. its just lacking something that can make it easy to adopt The following statement is true. The previous statement is false. 60% of all statistics are made up 90% of the time andrew i love you & want you to have my babys!!! Finally, I get to save the Earth with deadly lasers instead of deadly slide shows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1337 Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 From what I've heard, ( I think it was slashdot ) such a version of Linux is being developed. I wish I could provide a link or something, but I think I lost the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mementh Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 From what I've heard, ( I think it was slashdot ) such a version of Linux is being developed. I wish I could provide a link or something, but I think I lost the story. the idea would be fedora or such doing this i mean geeks can play all they want but unless you make a version and stick with it the newbs wont use it they want a VCR not a rocket The following statement is true. The previous statement is false. 60% of all statistics are made up 90% of the time andrew i love you & want you to have my babys!!! Finally, I get to save the Earth with deadly lasers instead of deadly slide shows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 From what I've heard, ( I think it was slashdot ) such a version of Linux is being developed. I wish I could provide a link or something, but I think I lost the story. the idea would be fedora or such doing this i mean geeks can play all they want but unless you make a version and stick with it the newbs wont use it they want a VCR not a rocket Research has shown that the user interface of a VCR is one of the most horrible designs in an average household :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangyongren Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 OK I did not read through all the post because well I did not fell like it so sorry if I repeat someone. I noticed people are calling linux an operating system and well there is this big debate over if you can call it an operating system. And well I do not want to get into that. Just please remeber when you refer to linux you are refering to the kernel not this distro and that type of thing. Depending on the distro a lot of things can change. If you are asking help with the linux usally people ask you what distro you are using because well it is very important and makes a huge difference. So please just be carefull and if you need help with Linux usally always refer to the distro unless umm you are messing with the Linux kernel itself, perhaps modifying it for you skilled ones ^_^ Also, I saw the question about software running on linux from windows. A lot of windows software has not been ported to Linux distros. Which in some ways is bad and some ways is good. Bad because it puts you in unfimilar grounds. Good because you learn new things. For every program I used on Windows there was a ported version or an alternative that I would consider equally good. Like for Photoshop, Gimp rules and for IE (ack if anyone still uses that B.S.) there is FireFox and Conquer. With any distro of linux I consider better then windows. You have so much more control over your system and my gosh the permission just rock and the flexibilty. Try setting a file in one folder to only let people on your local system but say mabye only your parents but not your sister see and yet not password protect and in the same folder let everyone in the world potitely see another file. Just simply hands down when it comes to cli (command line interface) and permission linux just owns windows. The following statement is true. The previous statement is false. 60% of all statistics are made up 90% of the time I just love those lines. The first one with the implication that is only false when the first statement is true and yet the implication is true whenever the first statement is false just love it man. Then using a statisic to say something about statstics, just love it man that is really cool. Nice work on your comments in the sig ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaN Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 Thank you mementh, I was just about to mention WINE. Linux requires fewer system resources than Windows, so it's faster. It's far safer, and its FREE! This is why Linux is the best thing since frozen waffles. i will say this though... linux's main problem to being a adoption is that its still too geeky to be mainstream it still does not have all the api calls.... it needs to feel like windows out of the box... no multiple desktops.. no power user setup Also they need to get together and settle on one MAJOR kernel update ever 5 years... make patches and the like but make one MAJOR version of linux and you can have all the flavors you want in the background but have ONE JUST ONE "linux" install.. this would be a base code setup for the swell person (like most of us are) and have a basic update system setup make it easy to use easy to manage but have the power user options just put in the back for those that want to learn ..... it needs to be simple boot up and run ........... i think its almost there.. its just lacking something that can make it easy to adopt That would unfortunatly turn Linux into Windows. Anyway as soon as people disagree they all go their own way again. Linux has really come along way in the last few years I belive it is the future of computing. The fact that it is not owned or contorolled by a single corporation but by the community that uses it will help its increasing popularity. I think open source software is the path to the future. WINE an run just about anything that can run on windows 98 wich is just about any program out there.. Not to mention just about any Virus 8) ~Dan64AuSince 27 Aug 2002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangyongren Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 That would unfortunatly turn Linux into Windows. Not many distros come close to being like Windows and the distros that do come close are not very popular. When people ask what type of distro should they use those type of distros do not really show up. People that just want a windows look alike because of benefit of it being free or cheap in comparision to windows then they will go to distros like lindows (sorry forgot the new name since Microsoft is sue happy) because that is what they are looking for. And mabye down the line there will be a distro that will appaise those people needs, but I do not care how much a distro fells and looks like windows you really still need to consult to people that know something about that distro if you need help or learn about that distro and/or learn about linux. I do not think it is unfortenent that there are distros that are like windows those are just distros that appease a certian cunsomer. And Linux will never be like windows ^_^ there may be distros, but never linux Linux has really come along way in the last few years I belive it is the future of computing. The fact that it is not owned or contorolled by a single corporation but by the community that uses it will help its increasing popularity. I think open source software is the path to the future. I went to a Linux Kernel based distro because one it was cheap and I wanted control over my system. I did not say gosh dang Microsoft how can I stick it to them. I found Gentoo and Slackware because that is what I was looking for. And hopefully there will be a larger community that is looking for an alternative to windows. Mainly going to Linux/Unix/FreeBSD instead of MAC ^_^ Na IM just kidding Mac Computers are pretty cool, espcially the ones with OSX. Oh and with Wine I really never got into it. Older versions simply sucked and never got into it. Not sure how good it is now but I rather not go back I learned to just look for alternatives rather then saying, "How can I make this Windows based program work on Linux?" I give up many games with linux too, even ported ones like UT2004 I just can not get those graphic settings correct to get a smooth game going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mementh Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 The following statement is true. The previous statement is false. 60% of all statistics are made up 90% of the time I just love those lines. The first one with the implication that is only false when the first statement is true and yet the implication is true whenever the first statement is false just love it man. Then using a statisic to say something about statstics, just love it man that is really cool. Nice work on your comments in the sig ^_^ thanks man.. its stolen by everyone and always is right :) The following statement is true. The previous statement is false. 60% of all statistics are made up 90% of the time andrew i love you & want you to have my babys!!! Finally, I get to save the Earth with deadly lasers instead of deadly slide shows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjbj1991 Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 will i have any troble setting up my internet i use surewest highspeed internet so it is always conected i think it is ethor ethornet of dsl dont know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthoctopus Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Have any of you tried the release of SuSE 10 yet? it's easy to use, easy to install, looks pretty user-friendly to newbies, and tries as much as it can to keep you away from the terminal. It also doesn't get in the way if you DO need to use the terminal, and YaST takes care of the installation of software perfectly. Personally, though, I'm using Fedora Core 4 running Wine 20041019 with WineTools. This version of Wine happens to be compatible with lots of software, like Microsoft Office (which is redundant anyway because OpenOffice 2 is quite good and very compatible with Office Documents), Flash (unfortunately MX 2004 doesnt seem to like Wine because it doesn't allow you to install ["incompatible operating system"]), Dreamweaver etc. If you want to play games, I'd recommend the latest version of Wine, Wine 0.9, with Direct3D support. Of course, there's always Cedega/WineX, but that requires $$. Fedora Core's and SuSE's setups: make it easy to use easy to manage but have the power user options just put in the back for those that want to learn and both have a simple bootup, and running applications are also easy. There's yum, which takes care of the installation of software and dependencies involved, if you happen to have a bad memory and can't remember the full list of dependencies that your software needs. Finally, there's the Unix base, which makes it pretty reliable, if not of industrial-strength quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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