Wot Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Im wondering if using dragon bones on gilded alters is still the best way to train prayer, or if buying more of a bone that gives less exp would be better 2,274th person to 99 mining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 To get the best xp:speed ratioYou use Dagganoths bones of a guilded altar To get the best cost:xp ratioYou want to use dragon bones on the ectofunctus Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wot Posted February 14, 2010 Author Share Posted February 14, 2010 To get the best xp:speed ratioYou use Dagganoths bones of a guilded altar To get the best cost:xp ratioYou want to use dragon bones on the ectofunctus Okay, thanks much. 2,274th person to 99 mining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulxai Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 However the speed of the Gilded Altar vs. the Ectofunctus isn't enough to justify the annoyance of the Ectofunctus, last time I checked. Unless you enjoy grinding 14 bones a trip (unless you can buy the bones already in a pot), and traveling to get buckets of slime, and then worshipping 14 bones at a time while having to collect Ectotokens, I'd use a Gilded Altar. ~ Proud Father ~ Proud (Currently Deployed) Army National Guardsmen ~ Proud Lakota ~ Retired Tip.It Crew ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 However the speed of the Gilded Altar vs. the Ectofunctus isn't enough to justify the annoyance of the Ectofunctus, last time I checked. Unless you enjoy grinding 14 bones a trip (unless you can buy the bones already in a pot), and traveling to get buckets of slime, and then worshipping 14 bones at a time while having to collect Ectotokens, I'd use a Gilded Altar. You seem to of garbled that first sentence. But its like I said:Dagg bones (the most expensive but highest xp) at a gilded altar (triple xp) is the best xp:speed ratio Dragon bones (best cost:xp bone) at ectofunctus (quad xp) is the best cost:xp ratio Which clearly implies altar method costs more, but is faster.Ecto method is cheaper but slower. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspeeder Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 However the speed of the Gilded Altar vs. the Ectofunctus isn't enough to justify the annoyance of the Ectofunctus, last time I checked. Unless you enjoy grinding 14 bones a trip (unless you can buy the bones already in a pot), and traveling to get buckets of slime, and then worshipping 14 bones at a time while having to collect Ectotokens, I'd use a Gilded Altar. You seem to of garbled that first sentence. But its like I said:Dagg bones (the most expensive but highest xp) at a gilded altar (triple xp) is the best xp:speed ratio Dragon bones (best cost:xp bone) at ectofunctus (quad xp) is the best cost:xp ratio Which clearly implies altar method costs more, but is faster.Ecto method is cheaper but slower.It's somewhere around 3x as slow, which means the opportunity cost of using the ecto over the g altar actually outweighs just using a g altar and making money with the time saved. http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww6/aspeeder/Siggy_zpsewaiux2t.png 99 Strength since 6/02/10 99 Attack since 9/19/10 99 Constitution since 10/03/10 99 Defense since 3/14/11 99 Slayer since 8/30/11 99 Summoning since 9/10/11 99 Ranged since 09/18/11 99 Magic since 11/12/11 99 Prayer since 11/15/11 99 Herblore since 3/29/12 99 Firemaking since 5/15/12 99 Smithing since 10/04/12 99 Crafting since 9/16/13 99 Agility since 9/23/13 99 Dungeoneering since 1/1/14 99 Fishing since 2/4/14 99 Mining since 2/28/14 99 Farming since 6/04/14 99 Cooking since 6/11/14 99 Runecrafting since 10/10/14 9 Fletching since 11/11/14 99 Thieving since 11/14/14 99 Woodcutting since 11/20/14 99 Construction since 12/03/14 99 Divination since 2/22/15 99 Hunter since 2/23/15 99 Invention since 01/20/17 99 Archaeology since 5/14/22Quest Point Cape since 08/20/09 Maxed since 2/23/15 Fire Cape since 02/27/13 Slayer: 3 Leaf-Bladed Swords, 8 Black Masks, 2 Hexcrests, 26 Granite Mauls, 5 Focus Sights, 32 Abyssal Whips, 9 Dark Bows, 1 Whip Vine, 3 Staffs of Light, 15 Polypore Sticks Dragon: 9 Draconic Visages, 7 Shield Left Halves, 20 Dragon Boots, 40 Dragon Med Helms, 8 Dragon Platelegs, 6 Dragon Spears, 20 Dragon Daggers, 5 Dragon Plateskirts, 1 Dragon Chainbody, 63 Off-hand Dragon Throwing Axes, 19 Dragon Longswords, 27 Dragon Maces, 1 Dragon Ward Treasure Trails: Saradomin Full Helm, Ranger Boots, Rune Body (t), Saradomin Vambraces, Various God Pages Misc:1 Onyx,1 Ahrim's Hood, 1 Guthan's Chainskirt, 1 Demon Slayer Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iDr Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 To answer the question, big bones were the best xp per gp last I checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulxai Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 However the speed of the Gilded Altar vs. the Ectofunctus isn't enough to justify the annoyance of the Ectofunctus, last time I checked. Unless you enjoy grinding 14 bones a trip (unless you can buy the bones already in a pot), and traveling to get buckets of slime, and then worshipping 14 bones at a time while having to collect Ectotokens, I'd use a Gilded Altar. You seem to of garbled that first sentence. But its like I said:Dagg bones (the most expensive but highest xp) at a gilded altar (triple xp) is the best xp:speed ratio Dragon bones (best cost:xp bone) at ectofunctus (quad xp) is the best cost:xp ratio Which clearly implies altar method costs more, but is faster.Ecto method is cheaper but slower. Made sense to me. I'll rephrase it for you, Paw. You mentioned using Dragon Bones on the Ecto is the best cost/xp ratio, so I was mentioning the slowness and annoyance of using the ecto wasn't enough to justify using it. ~ Proud Father ~ Proud (Currently Deployed) Army National Guardsmen ~ Proud Lakota ~ Retired Tip.It Crew ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheefoo Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Simple answer: yes. Use dragon bones on a gilded altar with two incense burners. Dagganoth bones are way too expensive, ectofuntus is way too slow. [spoiler=I LOVE MY STATION] 01001001001001110110110100100000010101000111011101100101011011000111011001100101001000000110000101101110011001000010000001110111011010000110000101110100001000000110100101110011001000000111010001101000011010010111001100111111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gspbeetle Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 However the speed of the Gilded Altar vs. the Ectofunctus isn't enough to justify the annoyance of the Ectofunctus, last time I checked. Unless you enjoy grinding 14 bones a trip (unless you can buy the bones already in a pot), and traveling to get buckets of slime, and then worshipping 14 bones at a time while having to collect Ectotokens, I'd use a Gilded Altar. You seem to of garbled that first sentence. But its like I said:Dagg bones (the most expensive but highest xp) at a gilded altar (triple xp) is the best xp:speed ratio Dragon bones (best cost:xp bone) at ectofunctus (quad xp) is the best cost:xp ratio Which clearly implies altar method costs more, but is faster.Ecto method is cheaper but slower.It's somewhere around 3x as slow, which means the opportunity cost of using the ecto over the g altar actually outweighs just using a g altar and making money with the time saved. I did some calculations before, but it assumed that you have enough summon for terror bird and by the time I was writing dragon bone was only 3k each.http://forum.tip.it/topic/246025-56-70-prayer-costs/page__p__3875700__fromsearch__1entry3875700 If I plug in my old formula with now d bones = 5k, marrentill = 0.506k, terrorbird = 0.352k (yep, there is still an inflation going on) The result is (5020.24k - 2016.704k * 2.1)/1.1 = 713.78327k...repeating of cause.Ie: Now you gotta make over 714k per hour to compensate the extra cost of the alter method cost with ecto.Correct me if I am wrong. It is kind of sad that 5 months is what it takes to rise the cost from an easily achievable making 455.62k per hour to now over 714k per hour. I guess at this rate, after 3.5 years everyone have to make over 9000k per hour in order to power train something. [hide= Details of the formula below]You guys all are fast makers or what :roll: ? Here are the calculations, forumula originate by <!-- l --><a class="postlink-local" href="http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?f=143&t=788110&start=0">viewtopic.php?f=143&t=788110&start=0</a><!-- l --> (dragon bones have raised by 1k per bone since the thread was made, see GE for details): altar (40 trips) (bones)3.2*1000+(marrentil, last for 3 min per burn)0.360*40 = 3214.4k ecto (31 trips) (bones)3.2*280*1.44+(terrorbird)0.385*2= 1291.01k Ecto with terror bird fletch you 403*288= 116k exp To get 252k from ecto, you need 2.1 hours Cost of 252k from ecto = 1291.01*2.1= 2713.211k So, altar cost 3214.4-2713.21= 501.19k more than ecto for 252k exp. But, we know that ecto need an extra 1.1 hour to archieve the 252k exp from 1 hour of altar... SO, if and only if you make over 455.62k per hour, wasting time to find a guy with altar is a waste of time. perfectionist should add these in calculations as well: altar: (teletab)0.935*40+ (duel rings) 1.8*5 ecto: (duel rings) 1.8*4[/hide] Examine ChenGMT (level: 138) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 I think Baby Dragon Bones, Zogre Bones, and Big Bones have lower cost/xp ratios, but are pretty hard to get and slower than dragon bones. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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