School used student laptop webcams to spy on them at school and home.

[Ss_J9_Goten]

Except they didn't catch him taking drugs. Which is besides the point anyway, since it's none of their business.

[Furah]

What's stopping students from "accidentally" dropping a piece of paper with tape on the back of it on to the laptop's camera? Maybe we should stop blaming the school and start blaming the idiot kids for not trying this out at least once.

 

I'm not too sure but I doubt they'd KNOW it was happening. I mean, if you knew your webcam is sending live feeds onto the internet, would you do nothing about it?

 

Technically, it's the school's wrongdoing and they should pay the consequences, for invasion of privacy, breach of human rights, etc. Even though they caught the dude taking drugs in his own home, the way the school did it was illegal. I wouldn't really care much if these students were spied on in school, since normal security cameras do roughly the same job. But at their own home - The student could be.... say... masturbating? Nothing wrong with that, except for being taped by a school.

 

Seriously though - I think schools should really get rid of the zero tolerance thing. They tend to push the line alot. I mean, 14 year old stripsearches and now this... what next?

It turns out it can only take pictures, I had stated that on this page.

[Assume Nothing]

What's stopping students from "accidentally" dropping a piece of paper with tape on the back of it on to the laptop's camera? Maybe we should stop blaming the school and start blaming the idiot kids for not trying this out at least once.

 

I'm not too sure but I doubt they'd KNOW it was happening. I mean, if you knew your webcam is sending live feeds onto the internet, would you do nothing about it?

 

Technically, it's the school's wrongdoing and they should pay the consequences, for invasion of privacy, breach of human rights, etc. Even though they caught the dude taking drugs in his own home, the way the school did it was illegal. I wouldn't really care much if these students were spied on in school, since normal security cameras do roughly the same job. But at their own home - The student could be.... say... masturbating? Nothing wrong with that, except for being taped by a school.

 

Seriously though - I think schools should really get rid of the zero tolerance thing. They tend to push the line alot. I mean, 14 year old stripsearches and now this... what next?

It turns out it can only take pictures, I had stated that on this page.

Still... it is possible that there may be illegal content from the little picture cam.

[dsavi]

I really, really hope this kind of school spying gets banned...

 

Sure, the school cares about their students, but punishing them for something they did outside of school? Lol.

 

The students should hack into the webcams so that it becomes basically useless.

It wouldn't even involve hacking, probably just gaining administrative access and killing a process. If that wouldn't do it, then the program(s) used is well and truly spyware.

It would require hacking, schools wont just give you administrative access.

Pff, you call that "hacking"? Also, this could be made a bit more difficult by the fact that the laptops in question are apparently Macbooks.

 

Yeah, anyway, a judge ordered the school to stop this, so it all turned out OK and everything.

 

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/02/23/2030207/Federal-Judge-Orders-Schools-To-Stop-Laptop-Spying

[BlindBaker]

Heh, another zero tolerance thread. I think it's stupid, and most schools push it too far. One of my old threads had a girl, 14, strip searched for.... wait for it... pills that are as strong as 2 Ibuprofen. Seriously?

 

And what's worse - The alleged 'evidence' was apparently (very vague on this, couldn't remember much of it) a friend who said she carried it, thus the school decided it might've been attached to her nude body.

 

The school in this thread should really be closed down, I'm pretty sure it breaches human rights laws. It's use of spyware/bugs, possibly contains child pornography, and more!

Actually it was a search for Ibuprofen, which are about the strength of four Tylennols. Or something close to that. I was supposed to write a paper on that. Never really finished. Whoops.

[Assume Nothing]

Heh, another zero tolerance thread. I think it's stupid, and most schools push it too far. One of my old threads had a girl, 14, strip searched for.... wait for it... pills that are as strong as 2 Ibuprofen. Seriously?

 

And what's worse - The alleged 'evidence' was apparently (very vague on this, couldn't remember much of it) a friend who said she carried it, thus the school decided it might've been attached to her nude body.

 

The school in this thread should really be closed down, I'm pretty sure it breaches human rights laws. It's use of spyware/bugs, possibly contains child pornography, and more!

Actually it was a search for Ibuprofen, which are about the strength of four Tylennols. Or something close to that. I was supposed to write a paper on that. Never really finished. Whoops.

 

Slight misinformation I guess. But I don't get the point of stripsearching an underaged girl for ibuprofen, it's not exactly a strong drug like cocaine. Meh.

[Furah]

Heh, another zero tolerance thread. I think it's stupid, and most schools push it too far. One of my old threads had a girl, 14, strip searched for.... wait for it... pills that are as strong as 2 Ibuprofen. Seriously?

 

And what's worse - The alleged 'evidence' was apparently (very vague on this, couldn't remember much of it) a friend who said she carried it, thus the school decided it might've been attached to her nude body.

 

The school in this thread should really be closed down, I'm pretty sure it breaches human rights laws. It's use of spyware/bugs, possibly contains child pornography, and more!

Actually it was a search for Ibuprofen, which are about the strength of four Tylennols. Or something close to that. I was supposed to write a paper on that. Never really finished. Whoops.

 

Slight misinformation I guess. But I don't get the point of stripsearching an underaged girl for ibuprofen, it's not exactly a strong drug like cocaine. Meh.

It's called zero tolerance for a reason....

[Assume Nothing]

Heh, another zero tolerance thread. I think it's stupid, and most schools push it too far. One of my old threads had a girl, 14, strip searched for.... wait for it... pills that are as strong as 2 Ibuprofen. Seriously?

 

And what's worse - The alleged 'evidence' was apparently (very vague on this, couldn't remember much of it) a friend who said she carried it, thus the school decided it might've been attached to her nude body.

 

The school in this thread should really be closed down, I'm pretty sure it breaches human rights laws. It's use of spyware/bugs, possibly contains child pornography, and more!

Actually it was a search for Ibuprofen, which are about the strength of four Tylennols. Or something close to that. I was supposed to write a paper on that. Never really finished. Whoops.

Slight misinformation I guess. But I don't get the point of stripsearching an underaged girl for ibuprofen, it's not exactly a strong drug like cocaine. Meh.

It's called zero tolerance for a reason....

That's the point. Zero tolerence in a acceptable manner is fine. Stripsearching a 14 year old for ibuprofen with no real evidence of her hiding it or any reason to believe that they may be attached to her nude body thus it is wrong and illegal to do so. And even if they were required to stripsearch the girl; they'd call the police, and they'd do it under supervised staff in a professional way.

 

Anyways, getting back on topic; I still think bugging someone's home with tampered webcams is illegal and immoral. Feel free to prove me otherwise.

[Riku3220]

Heh, another zero tolerance thread. I think it's stupid, and most schools push it too far. One of my old threads had a girl, 14, strip searched for.... wait for it... pills that are as strong as 2 Ibuprofen. Seriously?

 

And what's worse - The alleged 'evidence' was apparently (very vague on this, couldn't remember much of it) a friend who said she carried it, thus the school decided it might've been attached to her nude body.

 

The school in this thread should really be closed down, I'm pretty sure it breaches human rights laws. It's use of spyware/bugs, possibly contains child pornography, and more!

Actually it was a search for Ibuprofen, which are about the strength of four Tylennols. Or something close to that. I was supposed to write a paper on that. Never really finished. Whoops.

Slight misinformation I guess. But I don't get the point of stripsearching an underaged girl for ibuprofen, it's not exactly a strong drug like cocaine. Meh.

It's called zero tolerance for a reason....

That's the point. Zero tolerence in a acceptable manner is fine. Stripsearching a 14 year old for ibuprofen with no real evidence of her hiding it or any reason to believe that they may be attached to her nude body thus it is wrong and illegal to do so. And even if they were required to stripsearch the girl; they'd call the police, and they'd do it under supervised staff in a professional way.

 

Anyways, getting back on topic; I still think bugging someone's home with tampered webcams is illegal and immoral. Feel free to prove me otherwise.

Again with this? It was 2 women that did the search and they didn't even touch her. She didn't even get naked. She was just in her underwear, told to stretch them out, and shake a little so that if she did have the pills, they would fall out. She was named as the supplier so she had to be questioned more thoroughly.

[Bloodstain]

What's stopping students from "accidentally" dropping a piece of paper with tape on the back of it on to the laptop's camera? Maybe we should stop blaming the school and start blaming the idiot kids for not trying this out at least once.

 

Yeah man, lets blame the victim. And that chick who got raped totally deserved it, she shouldn't have gotten drunk or dressed so suggestively. And that dude who got mugged deserved it because he shouldn't have been walking down that street at night.

 

 

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[Assume Nothing]

What's stopping students from "accidentally" dropping a piece of paper with tape on the back of it on to the laptop's camera? Maybe we should stop blaming the school and start blaming the idiot kids for not trying this out at least once.

 

Yeah man, lets blame the victim. And that chick who got raped totally deserved it, she shouldn't have gotten drunk or dressed so suggestively. And that dude who got mugged deserved it because he shouldn't have been walking down that street at night.

 

 

:thumbup:

 

Well said, it is illogical and plain stupid to start blaming the victim. Unless it is obvious something is up with the webcam, it shouldn't have been recording anything or took pictures.

[Kenshinjapan]

Now, at my school, the principal is allowed to search any car in the parking lot for no reason at all. If he's just walking around one day and says "Hey, look at that car over there. I feel like digging through it for no reason other than it's fun," then he can. "Probable cause? What's that?"

Ah.. what's the go when they do search a vehicle?

 

Does he physically enter the vehicle (breaking a window, calling a locksmith, etc) or does the student have to be present to let him in? If the student isn't present and entry is made not using the keys for it.. I'd seriously start calling the cops saying that you've seen someone suspicious in the school parking lot and you think they're trying to boost a car, or steal electronics, etc. Give them the description on the principal.

 

Your rights are given up to an extend when you enroll in a public school. The supreme court has done several cases involving freedom of speech and protest on school grounds and they always side with the school. In actuality, you're just borrowing your locker/parking space from the school and since it's their property, they can search it whenever they want.

Yea.. but the vehicle isn't theirs tho.. so there has to be a line somewhere? :unsure:

 

Actually they can check the vehicle too since you're parking it on the school's property. You're just borrowing their space there, too ;). The only unrealistic search that I can think of would be asking the student to strip down in front of a group/an opposite sex teacher.