Hexcrest and Focus

[wioneo]

I have been eharing from various people that Hexcrests and Focus Sights do not work for monsters that do not require a slayer level. is there any truth to this? it seems hard to test....especially since jagex never explicitly stated either item's effect.

[foursideking]

Well, they're partially right on that. Hexcrests/focus sights only work on monsters that you've been assigned to via a slayer task...

[wioneo]

Searching through rsof I've seen several posters claiming that they did not notice an increase on ormal monsters tasks but did notice a difference for normal ones. It is not that easy to get either item at the moment...so if anyone who has them could test and post their results that would be great...and glitch aside, I don't think the bonuses while the effect is working are even confirmed...

 

What happened to that game query thing?

[Cptbaker08]

Well i know that while using the Full Slayer Helmet + CoG + Charge + Ferocious Ring that i did not hit over a 37, which is the max with CoG in Kuradals dungeon pre-Hexcrest. But I was able to hit a 46 using the SoL + Full Slayer Helmet + Wolpertinger (the +7 boost from the scroll) while barraging Nechs. And using the same setup i was able to hit a 46 using Fire Surge on Abyssal Demons in Kuradal's dungeon.

 

I think that the Focus Sight might work and it may only be the Hexcrest that isn't working for the boost. Not to sure, I know that Joe (a fellow TIFer) was saying that he didn't hit any higher on task with the FSH then on a normal task using CoG.

[atronic92]

With the full slayer helm, I can confirm that my range max hit did increase by 15% and that the accuracy seemed to be better as well.

[Grimy_Bunyip]

i specifically heard complaints stating that focus sight/hexcrest don't work on monsters that do not require slayer level to kill

 

namely greater demons, hell hounds, black demons, fire giants, waterfiends, etc

I'll confirm myself next time i get a task i typically range.

[SirIzenhime]

The focus sight works for me on all monsters (as a slayer task of course). I rarely mage, so I can't really say anything about the Hexcrest

[wioneo]

So mixed answers with no general consensus eh...very useful. It looks like hex/foci are crashing now so maybe I will be able to personally test and report back.

 

It really would be GREAT if Jagex would just explicitly state the bonuses instead of acting so [wagon] backwardly about this...

[JoeDaStudd]

The last I heard it was the following (only when on a task of course);

Monster with slayer level required -> get the bonus

Monster without slayer level required -> don't get the bonus

 

I killed about 150 rex's (dagannoth task) and never once hit above 33 (void mace+CoG+hex, should have a lot more) or 37 when potting (magic potions) I also tried earth surge and with and without 10% staffs (ancient and void then just with SGS out)

I've not really tested it out much after the first few tasks with the full slayer helm, but before this update it didn't work. Not sure about now though, but they have never stated anything in the any of the patch notes or bugfixes since they released hexcrest/focus sight.

 

Jagex (I managed to get Mod Emilee to answer my question on a FAQ thread) stated the bonuses are;

Hexcrest -> 15% magic accuracy and 15% magic damage

Focus -> 15% range accuracy and 15% range damage

[wioneo]

The last I heard it was the following (only when on a task of course);

Monster with slayer level required -> get the bonus

Monster without slayer level required -> don't get the bonus

 

I killed about 150 rex's (dagannoth task) and never once hit above 33 (void mace+CoG+hex, should have a lot more) or 37 when potting (magic potions) I also tried earth surge and with and without 10% staffs (ancient and void then just with SGS out)

I've not really tested it out much after the first few tasks with the full slayer helm, but before this update it didn't work. Not sure about now though, but they have never stated anything in the any of the patch notes or bugfixes since they released hexcrest/focus sight.

 

Jagex (I managed to get Mod Emilee to answer my question on a FAQ thread) stated the bonuses are;

Hexcrest -> 15% magic accuracy and 15% magic damage

Focus -> 15% range accuracy and 15% range damage

 

Fantastic, so at least we have confirmation of the expected. Could you post a qfc/screenshot of the post, by the way? So the theoretical cog max should be...42-43, correct?

[Bloodstain]

From what I've read on the RSOF, the focus works with the full slayer helm, but the hex doesn't. IIRC, hex works on it's own though

[Mischlings]

From what I've read on the RSOF, the focus works with the full slayer helm, but the hex doesn't. IIRC, hex works on it's own though

 

I can confirm that the focus sight works -- was hitting over 200 on blue dragons with rune darts earlier today. Haven't had a chance to test out the hexcrest yet -- need a good task to use it on.

[Codguy]

I can confirm some rumors for you, as I've done specific testing about this, and still have a bit more to do, especially with the new Life Points update (will change max hits, and will make things more precise, hopefully).

 

Both the Focus Sight and Hexcrest work on any slayer task, no matter what monster it is. I had a task of Black demons, and noticed an obvious boost with both, using the exact same Ranged and Magic offensive bonuses (tested without Hex/Focus and used a helmet that provided +3 to Ranged/Magic) to provide the most accurate comparisons.

 

The Focus Sight increases 15% accuracy as well as max hit to you as long as you are fighting a monster while on task.

 

The Hexcrest increases 15% accuracy to your magic while fighting a monster on task. It does not affect the max hit.

 

Now, I need to test more on the accuracy of Hexcrest, as I was getting about 10% for my tests, however, I can only assume... But the rumor of which monsters they affect is confirmed, any monster while on task :)

[SirIzenhime]

I can confirm some rumors for you, as I've done specific testing about this, and still have a bit more to do, especially with the new Life Points update (will change max hits, and will make things more precise, hopefully).

 

Both the Focus Sight and Hexcrest work on any slayer task, no matter what monster it is. I had a task of Black demons, and noticed an obvious boost with both, using the exact same Ranged and Magic offensive bonuses (tested without Hex/Focus and used a helmet that provided +3 to Ranged/Magic) to provide the most accurate comparisons.

 

The Focus Sight increases 15% accuracy as well as max hit to you as long as you are fighting a monster while on task.

 

The Hexcrest increases 15% accuracy to your magic while fighting a monster on task. It does not affect the max hit.

 

Now, I need to test more on the accuracy of Hexcrest, as I was getting about 10% for my tests, however, I can only assume... But the rumor of which monsters they affect is confirmed, any monster while on task :)

 

I'm fairy certain the Hexcrest is supposed to increas max hit as well. Have you compared the Hexcrest on monters that both require a Slayer Level, and those that don't?

[JoeDaStudd]

You wanted confirmation.

This is the exact post copied/pasted and the QF Link. Its just a quote of my post on the update thread.

"Any chance you can answer the Hexcrest, focus and full slayer helm bonus question?

 

IE what are the exact bonuses they give.

The manual states nothing about it and I can't find a single answer."

 

The hexcrest and focus sight do the same as the black mask so the hexcrest is +mage accuracy and +mage damage vs slayer task. The focus sight is +ranged accuracy and +ranged damage vs slayer task.

 

Quick find code: 15-16-312-60398074 <- dead as the it was locked soon after

 

I have a screeny of the answer, but unfortunately I didn't take one of my post asking the question so you'll have to take my word I was the one asking.

[Codguy]

What I said previously

 

I'm fairy certain the Hexcrest is supposed to increas max hit as well. Have you compared the Hexcrest on monters that both require a Slayer Level, and those that don't?

 

Ah yes, I forgot to mention that I was going to include this in my new test. However, it shouldn't make a difference.

 

Now, looking at the previous post, it's interesting that I was unable to come up with a better max hit with mage even though Mod Emilee said that you're supposed to. Fun :mellow:

[Cptbaker08]

Well yesterday i did a small amount of abyssal demons task using CoG charged + Full Slayer Helmet + Ferocious ring and i was hitting 413 on them (and a slayer creature) while i was only doing the same ~370 on Iron/Steel dragons (non-slayer creatures) in that same area. So to me it seems that the Hexcrest part of the helm doesn't work on non-slayer related monsters.

 

So it does affect your max hit as before i was only able to hit 37, before the LP update, but was not able to hit over 400 or 40 on the old system. As for the accuracy I can't really tell as i just kill the things and don't pay attention to how often i hit or not.

[wioneo]

That is all very interesting...So the hexcrest is the only glitched one, it is good to know that I'm not losing anything on jad tasks by taking the slayer helm, but I hope they are working to fix that issue with the hexcrest(not that I would ever use magic for slayer, but whatever).