I love our country.

I love Obama, speaking of pokemon and obama...

 

 

 

 

Where's his birth certificate, son?

 

 

Good question....

 

Where's your birth certificate?

 

London, England. Yes I am English. My mom gave birth to me on her and my dad's honeymoon. I was an alcohol baby :(

Heh, for those of you that know, Brock gave out the TM Bide(n) after defeating him in Pokemon RBY.

more of the corruption to get individual votes that runs through the system of american democracy. pressure groups run the nation.

I realized how stupid these programs were when i caught myself staring at the boobs of a girl in one of those classes. Also what the hell is with that pikachu.

teach that abstinence from sexual activity is the only certain way to avoid out-of-wedlock pregnancy,

 

Saywutnow? :mellow:

Guess you learn something new everyday... :unsure:

What other certain ways do you know of?

 

I thought a vasectomy was certain but when I looked it up it seems about 1 in 2000 fail #-o

teach that abstinence from sexual activity is the only certain way to avoid out-of-wedlock pregnancy,

 

Saywutnow? :mellow:

Guess you learn something new everyday... :unsure:

What other certain ways do you know of?

 

I thought a vasectomy was certain but when I looked it up it seems about 1 in 2000 fail #-o

Actually, I hadn't thought of a vasectomy. But that doesn't seem like the best option for a teenager to get anyways.

teach that abstinence from sexual activity is the only certain way to avoid out-of-wedlock pregnancy,

 

Saywutnow? :mellow:

Guess you learn something new everyday... :unsure:

What other certain ways do you know of?

 

I thought a vasectomy was certain but when I looked it up it seems about 1 in 2000 fail #-o

You could remove the testicles all together...

I love how so much of the health care bill isn't related to health care at all... much less how it was purposefully made to be nearly impossible to read.

I love how so much of the health care bill isn't related to health care at all... much less how it was purposefully made to be nearly impossible to read.

 

 

Lol, purposefully? Please, elaborate. I need to know what's going on in your mind. Lol.

 

 

 

OT: Abstinence education sucks. If I tell a kid to not go over and touch the ball, or he'll get AIDS and die in 20 years, WTF do you think the kid's going to do? Touch the god damn ball, right? That's abstinence edumacation.

...America must be behind with its sex ed classes, we covered this crap back when I was still in year 10 (2006) despite it being obviously true that the ONLY 100% way to not fall pregnant is to not do it, but come on, where freaking teenagers and adults. Like hell I'm going to follow the 1960's ways of living.

I love how so much of the health care bill isn't related to health care at all... much less how it was purposefully made to be nearly impossible to read.

 

 

Lol, purposefully? Please, elaborate. I need to know what's going on in your mind. Lol.

I think he/she means purposely. They say it was made purposely extremely long so it wasn't readable.

 

I think Obama didn't necessarily have it made so long so that no one could read it, but it was to his advantage so that the Democrats could slip in some unrelated laws that would be disregarded since no one actually bothered to read the thing anyway. Shouldn't that be unconstitutional as it purposely detracts from the main idea of the bill to pass unrelated laws without having them scrutinized?

I love how so much of the health care bill isn't related to health care at all... much less how it was purposefully made to be nearly impossible to read.

 

 

Lol, purposefully? Please, elaborate. I need to know what's going on in your mind. Lol.

I think he/she means purposely. They say it was made purposely extremely long so it wasn't readable.

 

I think Obama didn't necessarily have it made so long so that no one could read it, but it was to his advantage so that the Democrats could slip in some unrelated laws that would be disregarded since no one actually bothered to read the thing anyway. Shouldn't that be unconstitutional as it purposely detracts from the main idea of the bill to pass unrelated laws without having them scrutinized?

 

rather, you add that related thing that the senator from Missouri required to vote yes, you bribe that californian senator with that guarantee etc. It's bribery to get the bill passed. Like with all federal bills in the US.

 

republicans and democrats do exactly the same thing, claiming it is only Obama, or purposely done is crazy-man's talk; propaganda to slander individual politicians and parties. "Compromise" was neccessary to get any healthcare bill passed, and any other major bill is at leasta couple hundred pages. The longer the proccess goes, the longer the bill becomes, that's inevitable with a long process before a bill gets accepted. no democrat or republican changes that, be they the president or not.

 

That's how all american legislations that are a "compromise" will look, always and eternally. That is, unless a law is accepted such that all federal laws need to apply unilaterally to all states, in combination with stronger legislation that only closely related aspects of an issue can be passed in the same bill.

 

The current bribery system of american policy ruins legitimacy for all participants.

In 600+ pages you'd think that both sides slipped in quite a few things that nobody would notice.

For that reason I assumed that the news source just made it up, because nobody is going to crawl through over 600 pages of the bill to find it to prove them wrong. You just have to take the source's word for it.

In 600+ pages you'd think that both sides slipped in quite a few things that nobody would notice.

For that reason I assumed that the news source just made it up, because nobody is going to crawl through over 600 pages of the bill to find it to prove them wrong. You just have to take the source's word for it.

 

electronic documents are very easy to search through. flipping through a physical book also goes very quickly, if you know what you're doing and read relatively fast. I'm sure i could get through the bill in 2-3 days to find anything sensational to publish.

In 600+ pages you'd think that both sides slipped in quite a few things that nobody would notice.

For that reason I assumed that the news source just made it up, because nobody is going to crawl through over 600 pages of the bill to find it to prove them wrong. You just have to take the source's word for it.

 

electronic documents are very easy to search through. flipping through a physical book also goes very quickly, if you know what you're doing and read relatively fast. I'm sure i could get through the bill in 2-3 days to find anything sensational to publish.

I'm talking more about the reader of that though. It's not worth it for the average Joe to go through it to confirm what he just heard on the news.

In 600+ pages you'd think that both sides slipped in quite a few things that nobody would notice.

For that reason I assumed that the news source just made it up, because nobody is going to crawl through over 600 pages of the bill to find it to prove them wrong. You just have to take the source's word for it.

 

electronic documents are very easy to search through. flipping through a physical book also goes very quickly, if you know what you're doing and read relatively fast. I'm sure i could get through the bill in 2-3 days to find anything sensational to publish.

I'm talking more about the reader of that though. It's not worth it for the average Joe to go through it to confirm what he just heard on the news.

 

I don't think CNN would risk anything like that for a tiny story.

I love how so much of the health care bill isn't related to health care at all... much less how it was purposefully made to be nearly impossible to read.

 

 

Lol, purposefully? Please, elaborate. I need to know what's going on in your mind. Lol.

I think he/she means purposely. They say it was made purposely extremely long so it wasn't readable.

 

I think Obama didn't necessarily have it made so long so that no one could read it, but it was to his advantage so that the Democrats could slip in some unrelated laws that would be disregarded since no one actually bothered to read the thing anyway. Shouldn't that be unconstitutional as it purposely detracts from the main idea of the bill to pass unrelated laws without having them scrutinized?

 

rather, you add that related thing that the senator from Missouri required to vote yes, you bribe that californian senator with that guarantee etc. It's bribery to get the bill passed. Like with all federal bills in the US.

 

republicans and democrats do exactly the same thing, claiming it is only Obama, or purposely done is crazy-man's talk; propaganda to slander individual politicians and parties. "Compromise" was neccessary to get any healthcare bill passed, and any other major bill is at leasta couple hundred pages. The longer the proccess goes, the longer the bill becomes, that's inevitable with a long process before a bill gets accepted. no democrat or republican changes that, be they the president or not.

 

That's how all american legislations that are a "compromise" will look, always and eternally. That is, unless a law is accepted such that all federal laws need to apply unilaterally to all states, in combination with stronger legislation that only closely related aspects of an issue can be passed in the same bill.

 

The current bribery system of american policy ruins legitimacy for all participants.

 

Do you see full-on bribery of both sides when every single Reuiblican voted no?

 

Edit: To everyone else, the bill is around 2000 pages, and incredibly hard to read.

 

Health Care Bill (Full)

 

http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf

 

 

Every Republican votes no

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/21/AR2010032100943.html

 

 

Do you see full-on bribery of both sides when every single Reuiblican voted no?

 

Edit: To everyone else, the bill is around 2000 pages, and incredibly hard to read.

 

Health Care Bill (Full)

 

http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf

 

 

Every Republican votes no

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/21/AR2010032100943.html

 

I think you misread what i wrote. Not only this particular bill, where the republicans were uninclined to cooperate accross the isle, but that's another story.

 

Birbery happens with every bill. Republicans, independants, democrats are all part of the system, because that's what it is: systematic bribery with every bill.

 

 

Do you see full-on bribery of both sides when every single Reuiblican voted no?

 

Edit: To everyone else, the bill is around 2000 pages, and incredibly hard to read.

 

Health Care Bill (Full)

 

http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf

 

 

Every Republican votes no

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/21/AR2010032100943.html

 

I think you misread what i wrote. Not only this particular bill, where the republicans were uninclined to cooperate accross the isle, but that's another story.

 

Birbery happens with every bill. Republicans, independants, democrats are all part of the system, because that's what it is: systematic bribery with every bill.

 

 

Yup. I watched Glenn Beck a few days ago (I died a little on the inside), and he said that Obama was bribing senators with additions to the bill, and I started crying... This happens all the time, to every president, to every party that's ever been in power. This doesn't make it a bad thing, but eh. I don't support the Government worker's extravagant pay either, but I wont complain unless it goes any further. I guess all we can do is sit and let senators waste $20M on bridges to nowhere while bills get passed. It's how congress keeps things running with 535 people who always disagree with each other.

Teen- & childmarriages; problem solved!