Bossing questions

[L0rdAki]

So, I'm looking into the wonderful world of bossing now that I've found a good money maker that can lag with me and I've got my training sorted. At the moment, my stats are in my sig, and I have about 30m of useable cash (don't want to take the 7.5m outta my kingdom if I can help it).

 

I want to know a few things about bossing for cash:

-Tds. What are the minimum levels and gear requirements needed to get a decent amount of kills/hour? (ie: profit).

-Armadyl. What are the minimum levels and gear requirements to get around 2/3 solo kills/trip? (I hear 3 kills a trip is pretty good for solo gwd, anything over is insane).

-Bandos. Same as arma.

 

Again, please keep in mind I only have 30m ATM, and I'm trying to boss for cash. As somewhere to start, I was talking to a guy who agrees that I'd need about 500m to make before going solo arma for 2 kills/trip or so. Verac's helm, apl, acp, fury, ranger boots, spectral, onyx ring (I), 90+ range, 90+ Mage, 90+ defence, 92 prayer, (extremes if you can) and 88 summon. I know how to get all those levels (except charms for summon) but the cash requirement seems a little...out of reach. That's 500k fungus to pick >_<.

 

I only want to do solo if possible, as finding a permanant team of friendly people on at the same time I am at around the same leeks isn't easy, plus getting kc takes longer.

 

Thanks.

 

Edit: recycling topic, let's keep the slayer discussion going too.

[Low C]

I'd atleast try for 90 range and 90 melee's before you get serious into boss hunting. It'll only help you in saving supplies and finding teams. If you really are interested in a boss to kill with those stats that is decent money I would suggest Daggonth Kings.

[Alphaerium]

I'd atleast try for 90 range and 90 melee's before you get serious into boss hunting. It'll only help you in saving supplies and finding teams. If you really are interested in a boss to kill with those stats that is decent money I would suggest Daggonth Kings.

 

Any guids on that?:P

[3PointMan]

At your level I would be surprised if you could get 1 solo kill on any boss. Your best off solo maging at dks. You should get at least 85 magic though.

 

PS: over 3 kills isn't insane. Anyone with overloads and turmoil can get 10+ without a braincell.

[Low C]

Do slayer all the way for melee. That's what I would do. Go to archive of wisdom section of the site and you'll see afew slayer and melee training guides.

[MstrMonopoly]

Well, you COULD do Tormented Demons. They'd likely be over 1m an hour for you if you're good.

[Mazhar]

Well, you COULD do Tormented Demons. They'd likely be over 1m an hour for you if you're good.

you could make more than 1m/hr at tds with bronze cbow and rune scim >.<

[MstrMonopoly]

Well, you COULD do Tormented Demons. They'd likely be over 1m an hour for you if you're good.

you could make more than 1m/hr at tds with bronze cbow and rune scim >.<

 

They're about 1.5m/hr for me, and I have extreme welfare gear.

[warrior5024]

Td's either love you, or hate you.

I was about 600 dry before I got a Duo split *d'oh*

[L0rdAki]

I plan on training Slayer for melee. I'm about 70m short of decent gear, though, so i'm trying to make that before going back to combat.

 

Lowc, I wouldn't expect a boss to be really profitable at these stats...I was looking for the minimum needed for decent bossing (So i knew my approx. length of training)

 

Yarred, I would also like a guide on DKs, I've had more then one offer to go to them in a team with some friends.

 

Point, I'm not surprised. I'd called Turmoil and Overloads insane....:P

 

rahz, I have a feeling that's not the case...>_<

[bedman]

I plan on training Slayer for melee. I'm about 70m short of decent gear, though, so i'm trying to make that before going back to combat.

 

Lowc, I wouldn't expect a boss to be really profitable at these stats...I was looking for the minimum needed for decent bossing (So i knew my approx. length of training)

 

Yarred, I would also like a guide on DKs, I've had more then one offer to go to them in a team with some friends.

 

Point, I'm not surprised. I'd called Turmoil and Overloads insane....:P

 

rahz, I have a feeling that's not the case...>_<

70m short of decent gear? Whip, rune defener, dragon boots and of course the slayer helmet are the only essentials. You can wear welfare gear in nearly all the other spots without compromising a lot on speed. (full bandos + fury + fire cape + zerker is not that much better than rune/barrow/dragon/granite legs/plate, glory, SW cape and warrior ring).

Knowing this, you can get very decent slayer gear for under 10m. Bandos and DFS are far overrated. You are 300m short from the real slaying though (turmoil, soul split and extremes); but that is not an issue of gear.

[Sir_Squab]

I'd say if you can fight them, TD's are awesome. You can last much longer there then at GW, and you don't need to kill 40 creatures first. They take a bit to get the hang of, and you need spare lanterns in case you die. As for gear...most high end gear is, frankly, overrated.

 

As for DKS, I've heard lots of good things about it, but I've gone there once, years ago, with a team, never tried solo'ing...

[L0rdAki]

I plan on training Slayer for melee. I'm about 70m short of decent gear, though, so i'm trying to make that before going back to combat.

 

Lowc, I wouldn't expect a boss to be really profitable at these stats...I was looking for the minimum needed for decent bossing (So i knew my approx. length of training)

 

Yarred, I would also like a guide on DKs, I've had more then one offer to go to them in a team with some friends.

 

Point, I'm not surprised. I'd called Turmoil and Overloads insane....:P

 

rahz, I have a feeling that's not the case...>_<

70m short of decent gear? Whip, rune defener, dragon boots and of course the slayer helmet are the only essentials. You can wear welfare gear in nearly all the other spots without compromising a lot on speed. (full bandos + fury + fire cape + zerker is not that much better than rune/barrow/dragon/granite legs/plate, glory, SW cape and warrior ring).

Knowing this, you can get very decent slayer gear for under 10m. Bandos and DFS are far overrated. You are 300m short from the real slaying though (turmoil, soul split and extremes); but that is not an issue of gear.

 

70m more would get me enough to piety/super set each task, fury, zerker, zs, full karils, d boots, slayer helm, full bandos and perhaps dfs. Those are the absolute minimum for slayer, iirc.

[3PointMan]

I plan on training Slayer for melee. I'm about 70m short of decent gear, though, so i'm trying to make that before going back to combat.

 

Lowc, I wouldn't expect a boss to be really profitable at these stats...I was looking for the minimum needed for decent bossing (So i knew my approx. length of training)

 

Yarred, I would also like a guide on DKs, I've had more then one offer to go to them in a team with some friends.

 

Point, I'm not surprised. I'd called Turmoil and Overloads insane....:P

 

rahz, I have a feeling that's not the case...>_<

70m short of decent gear? Whip, rune defener, dragon boots and of course the slayer helmet are the only essentials. You can wear welfare gear in nearly all the other spots without compromising a lot on speed. (full bandos + fury + fire cape + zerker is not that much better than rune/barrow/dragon/granite legs/plate, glory, SW cape and warrior ring).

Knowing this, you can get very decent slayer gear for under 10m. Bandos and DFS are far overrated. You are 300m short from the real slaying though (turmoil, soul split and extremes); but that is not an issue of gear.

 

70m more would get me enough to piety/super set each task, fury, zerker, zs, full karils, d boots, slayer helm, full bandos and perhaps dfs. Those are the absolute minimum for slayer, iirc.

 

Lol no. Zerker and zs are not requiered for slayer. Neither is bandos or dfs. They are incredibly overrated. I have gone 1-89 slayer using dharoks top+bottom, d boots, warrior ring, slayer helm, whip, rune defender etc. It will cost much less than 10m and will be more than enough.

 

And you shouldn't be piety'ing every task. Super sets are minimal though. You will still profit it you use them.

[L0rdAki]

I need Zs for fiends tasks, Lbs for metal dragon tasks, Karils for Bloodveld tasks, dfs also for dragon tasks, Bandos for melée gear (anything under bandos is not worth it, I've heard) Fury (glory is the 2p4p d skirt of today, so I've heard), whip for general use, zerker for best ring, cannon/piety/pot every task.

 

Slayer isn't worth it otherwise, so I've heard. I also need about 5m in Cannonballs, 10m in pots for startup.

[Sir_Squab]

Your obviously listening to the wrong people. The only thing DFS counts for is dragons. ZS, ok, does help at waterfiends. Bandos? May [wagon]. Barrows armour is cheaper and stronger, although you must repair. Karils isn't need at bloodvelds, would help somewhat. But not needed. You could range them. You don't need cannon/piety every task.

 

Glory is the...whatever thing...d skirt of the day. Interesting thing about that analogy, is that the d skirt has the same damn stats as dragon platelegs. Zerker. +4 str. I can't see that doing much at all. Same with +6 str from bandos.

 

Seriously, stop talking to elitists who spend half their life at Godwars. You also don't need 10m in pots. You really don't. Some tasks they help (metal dragons, waterfiends) but I get through probably 90% of my tasks without them.

[Aiel]

the only "required" items to slay efficiently are a whip and black mask...

[3PointMan]

You're very mistaken if you think you cant do slayer with bandos and zs etc. If you think that your are completely foolish.

[L0rdAki]

Your obviously listening to the wrong people. The only thing DFS counts for is dragons. ZS, ok, does help at waterfiends. Bandos? May [wagon]. Barrows armour is cheaper and stronger, although you must repair. Karils isn't need at bloodvelds, would help somewhat. But not needed. You could range them. You don't need cannon/piety every task.

 

Glory is the...whatever thing...d skirt of the day. Interesting thing about that analogy, is that the d skirt has the same damn stats as dragon platelegs. Zerker. +4 str. I can't see that doing much at all. Same with +6 str from bandos.

 

Seriously, stop talking to elitists who spend half their life at Godwars. You also don't need 10m in pots. You really don't. Some tasks they help (metal dragons, waterfiends) but I get through probably 90% of my tasks without them.

 

2p4p is too poor for pants. Last time I got a d skirt over d legs, I got trolled to kingdom come for being too poor to get d legs (although I could).

 

I get crashed every task, once or twice. Without maxed gear, people just ignore you.

 

Also, I have noticed tasks are rather slow without cannon/piety....

 

I can't find any people around my level and my cash at all ingame, so I suppose any advice I get could be wrong...

 

Although, It would still cost me 50m+ to get dfs, zs, torags plate/legs, fury, full karils, d boots, slayer helm, lbs, warrior ring, whip, ect. And still about 10m in pots (prayers, super sets, antifires, pouches, food)

 

Edit:Point, it's taken me 5 years to get 75 slayer. I know that you can slay with basically nothing, but it goes so slow it's not funny. I'm talking about getting more then 2 tasks done a day...

Edited April 11, 2010 by L0rdAki

[3PointMan]

Well your wrong on everything. Pot pots in increments of 100. You dont need dfs. its a total waste of money.

 

I use dharoks, whip, d boots, warrior, rune defender, trimmed 99 cape, slayer helm and barrows gloves. I get about 7 tasks done / day. Yeah.

 

You get crashed at slayer tasks? LOL. That isnt your equipment, its your stats. When I see someone your level with bandos and dfs all I can think is lol. I could still crash you with dharoks and rune defender.

[L0rdAki]

Ugh...so gear doesn't matter at all? (now I'm wondering why everyone on my friends list says otherwise... :/).

 

I'll run a few ge calcs with gear and stuff and I'll get back to you guys...

 

Should I take my friend's advice and piety/cannon every task? Lol.

 

Major props Point for helping me so much...I just don't know why getting 75 slayer took so long. Use of d scim instead of whip, perhaps?

[Bladewing]

Piety/turmoil and cannon every task or you're wasting your time

[Levon_]

Piety/turmoil and cannon every task or you're wasting your time

 

stfu nerd.

[L0rdAki]

Slayer helm + t plate/legs + k top/bottom + zs + whip + 100 of each base pot + d boots comes out close enough to 20m. Woot! Is that good enough gear?

 

Could I have a concensus on whether to piety/cannon every task? :(

 

Also, could I just wear black dhide and borrow a ss/zs for fiend tasks and save me 10m?

[Levon_]

All you need is basically whip, black mask, d boots, barrows gloves.

 

You can use rune and d hide. Dont cannon and piety unless you like wasting money. It speeds up but it kills your gp

 

You can borrow a zs/ss for waterfiend tasks.

 

OK so what you need minimum.

 

Whip

black mask

d boots

combat bracelet

rune armour

black d hide

food

super pots

slayer gem

 

that is the minimum