106 iron dragons

[skylor12344]

Ok so i got a task of 106 iron dragons and i was wondering if i should just skip this task and get a new one or should i try to do it as im only 16k from 85 slayer. If u suggest i stick to it please give me a good setup for ranging or maging unless you think my melee stats are sufficient for killing them with a LBS

[IggyArteri]

I think you could easily take them with prosy+slayer mask/helm. Your melee stats are better than mine and I don't have any trouble. Just a matter of it being more expensive really, what with anti-fires and ppots. Could always speed it up with a super set as well.

 

In short, you could melee them easily, since you're much stronger than I.

[Nifflin]

Ok so i got a task of 106 iron dragons and i was wondering if i should just skip this task and get a new one or should i try to do it as im only 16k from 85 slayer. If u suggest i stick to it please give me a good setup for ranging or maging unless you think my melee stats are sufficient for killing them with a LBS

 

You could do it with LBS, it will be about as fast as mageing. Range is the slowest and cheapest method.

I personally mage them as I like the exp.

 

Setup:

SoL

Full Slayer Helm/ Hexcrest

Ahrims Top

Ahrims Bottem

Dung neckleaces > Fury

Family crest chaos gloves

Antidragon sheild

God Cape

Infinity boots

Ferocious ring

 

Casting fire bolt. Antifire pots + EE in inventory. Use BoB to bank bones and other nice drops.

To cast another spell swap the gloves to barrows and sub in the runes.

[SirIzenhime]

Looking at your stats, I can't see any reason why you would be skipping them, unless you only going for XP hardcore.

 

For melee use LBS with prayer boost armour and pray melee. Use anti-fire pots to negate all damage. For magic, Fire Wave works nicely, just use the best magic attack boosting items you can with an Anti-fire shield and pots to avoid all damage. Range is basically the same except you don't use runes. Use addy/broad bolts and range potions to boost the task speed.

[skylor12344]

Ok i think ill just melee them this will be my setup:

 

FSH

Glory

Prossy top

Prossy Legs

Dragon Boots

Barrows Gloves

Kuradels Ring

LBS

Anti-Dragon Shield

Ardy Cloak 3

 

Invo:

4-5 anti fires

2 Super Sets

EE

emergacy teleport

Food

Prayer pots

[aspeeder]

Ok i think ill just melee them this will be my setup:

 

FSH

Glory

Prossy top

Prossy Legs

Dragon Boots

Barrows Gloves

Kuradels Ring

LBS

Anti-Dragon Shield

Ardy Cloak 3

 

Invo:

4-5 anti fires

2 Super Sets

EE

emergacy teleport

Food

Prayer pots

Food and an emergency tele would be ok for this first task, but you really shouldn't need them later on at all; also bring a spec weapon like a dds instead of the EE since you shouldn't need food at all and it's pretty easy to tell when you need to pray, it really helps speed things up a bit.

[Profins]

Go with melee. I'll give you my set-up (no inventory, figure it yourself as it varies per stats/style):

 

Proselyte top/bottom

Slayer helm

Whip/Antifire shield (DFS if you have)

D boots

Fury

Fire cape

Dragon Slayer Gloves (FOG - A MUST have for serious slayers)

Zerker ring (Can switch to wealth if you wish)

 

Have fun.

[skylor12344]

Go with melee. I'll give you my set-up (no inventory, figure it yourself as it varies per stats/style):

 

Proselyte top/bottom

Slayer helm

Whip/Antifire shield (DFS if you have)

D boots

Fury

Fire cape

Dragon Slayer Gloves (FOG - A MUST have for serious slayers)

Zerker ring (Can switch to wealth if you wish)

 

Have fun.

 

thanks for the setup but only a few problems with it.

1. dont have Fury

2. Dont have fire cape

3. I fail at FOG so i dont have the D-slayer gloves

 

Few questions:

 

1. Can i switch out zerker ring for kuradels ring since ill be killing them in her dungeon?

 

2. is the whip that much better than the LBS on stab with only 89 attack?

[aspeeder]

Go with melee. I'll give you my set-up (no inventory, figure it yourself as it varies per stats/style):

 

Proselyte top/bottom

Slayer helm

Whip/Antifire shield (DFS if you have)

D boots

Fury

Fire cape

Dragon Slayer Gloves (FOG - A MUST have for serious slayers)

Zerker ring (Can switch to wealth if you wish)

 

Have fun.

He's in Kuradal's dungeon so he should ALWAYS be using a Ferocious ring (Also, ring of wealths do not affect unique drops like d legs, only things like half keys and d meds that are in most monster's drop tables). Also, checking the bonuses, the dragon slayer gloves give worse stats overall than barrows gloves so they aren't worth using, especially since the exp difference won't be huge or make the tasks worthwhile for exp.

[Ardzik]

About ring best would be Fercious one if you useing Kurdal as your slayer master in her dungeon. If you were going bank bones take bird or tortoise this make it little longer but give profit.

 

 

2 anti (4)

4-5 pray (4)

1 super att & str (3 or 4)

Spec weapon is optional - you can always save space for bones :P

Lumby tab for quick recovery pray and restock

[Nifflin]

Ok i think ill just melee them this will be my setup:

 

FSH

Glory

Prossy top

Prossy Legs

Dragon Boots

Barrows Gloves

Kuradels Ring

LBS

Anti-Dragon Shield

Ardy Cloak 3

 

Invo:

4-5 anti fires

2 Super Sets

EE

emergacy teleport

Food

Prayer pots

Food and an emergency tele would be ok for this first task, but you really shouldn't need them later on at all; also bring a spec weapon like a dds instead of the EE since you shouldn't need food at all and it's pretty easy to tell when you need to pray, it really helps speed things up a bit.

 

I doubt you will need that many super sets or anti fires. If you bank the bones with a BoB like you should then you can restock those. The only set up change for meele prayer would be maybe a stole if you have one. Bring a holy wrench if you have one too, it is worth getting as it will save you a lot over time.

[skylor12344]

What about the LBS v. Whip? with 89 attack would it be more efficient to use the lbs on stab or the whip on slash?

[aspeeder]

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Ok i think ill just melee them this will be my setup:

 

FSH

Glory

Prossy top

Prossy Legs

Dragon Boots

Barrows Gloves

Kuradels Ring

LBS

Anti-Dragon Shield

Ardy Cloak 3

 

Invo:

4-5 anti fires

2 Super Sets

EE

emergacy teleport

Food

Prayer pots

Food and an emergency tele would be ok for this first task, but you really shouldn't need them later on at all; also bring a spec weapon like a dds instead of the EE since you shouldn't need food at all and it's pretty easy to tell when you need to pray, it really helps speed things up a bit.

 

 

I doubt you will need that many super sets or anti fires. If you bank the bones with a BoB like you should then you can restock those. The only set up change for meele prayer would be maybe a stole if you have one. Bring a holy wrench if you have one too, it is worth getting as it will save you a lot over time.

I usually use around 3-4 antis for a task of 70-85 so 5 would be a good, safe number; and 2 super sets would allow him to be potted ~7 levels above normal for pretty much the entire task which really helps the speed; I do recommend the holy wrench too though, it's really useful.

[Profins]

He's in Kuradal's dungeon so he should ALWAYS be using a Ferocious ring (Also, ring of wealths do not affect unique drops like d legs, only things like half keys and d meds that are in most monster's drop tables). Also, checking the bonuses, the dragon slayer gloves give worse stats overall than barrows gloves so they aren't worth using, especially since the exp difference won't be huge or make the tasks worthwhile for exp.

You'll lose out on a tiny bit of str/attack bonus, but you will be getting a big +10% attack bonus.

Call me crazy, but on high defense monsters like metal dragons more attacks outweigh +12 str. Defense bonus is meaningless because of prayer.

 

I'm sorry, yes, Ferocious ring is what you should be using, I'm really stuck in the past. :P And 15% exp is still 15% exp. Since you are considering these, you presumably are not going for hardcore exp, so 15% is a nice boost eventhough you still will be getting less XP/Hr than on some easier tasks.

 

Switch the fury with glory and fire cape with Soul Wars / Ardougne cape!

[PereGrin]

LBS is more effecient. For the full task you probably only need 4 antifires, and 10 prayer potions. I always use super attack and strength, it speeds up kills considerably.

[aspeeder]

He's in Kuradal's dungeon so he should ALWAYS be using a Ferocious ring (Also, ring of wealths do not affect unique drops like d legs, only things like half keys and d meds that are in most monster's drop tables). Also, checking the bonuses, the dragon slayer gloves give worse stats overall than barrows gloves so they aren't worth using, especially since the exp difference won't be huge or make the tasks worthwhile for exp.

You'll lose out on a tiny bit of str/attack bonus, but you will be getting a big +10% attack bonus.

Call me crazy, but on high defense monsters like metal dragons more attacks outweigh +12 str. Defense bonus is meaningless because of prayer.

 

I'm sorry, yes, Ferocious ring is what you should be using, I'm really stuck in the past. :P And 15% exp is still 15% exp. Since you are considering these, you presumably are not going for hardcore exp, so 15% is a nice boost eventhough you still will be getting less XP/Hr than on some easier tasks.

 

Switch the fury with glory and fire cape with Soul Wars / Ardougne cape!

Alright, didn't want to do this, but let's compare stats, I'll be using my setup of prossy top and bottom, FSH, Fury, SW Cape, Whip, DFS, D Boots, F Ring, and then switching out the barrows gloves for D Slaying ones.

 

With Barrows gloves: Slash att +104

With D Slayer gloves: Slash att +92

92*1.1=101.2 slash att bonus, not even considering the str boost barrows gloves are better.

 

But let's consider the LBS instead of the Whip

 

With Barrows gloves: Stab att +89

With D Slayer gloves: Stab att +77

77*1.1=84.7 stab att bonus, once again barrows gloves outshine the d slayer gloves without even taking into account str.

And the exp gains are minimal at best since the exp for iron dragons is low to begin with, you should be concerned with killing as fast as possible to get a new task rather than slowing yourself down for exp that you could have gained faster somewhere else.

[tonguetamer3]

Actually Aspeeder, using the "Max Attack Roll" Equation that people have generally agreed upon:

(Max Attack Roll is essentially how accurate you are)

13 + Level + (Level * Bonus / 64) + (Bonus / 8)

 

Using your same slash bonuses:

 

With Barrows Gloves: 104

With Dragon Slayer Gloves: 92

 

Using his Attack Level:

 

88

 

You end up with:

 

Barrows Gloves:

Max Attack Roll = 13 + 88 + 88*104/64 + 104 / 8

= 13 + 88 + 143 + 13

= 257

 

Dragon Slayer Gloves:

Max Attack Roll = 13 + (1.1)88 + (1.1)88*92/64 + 92/8

= 13 + 96.8 + 139.15 + 11.5

= 260.45

= 260

 

Dragon Slayer Gloves actually end up giving you a higher Max Attack Roll compared to Barrows Gloves, and the Dragon Slayer Gloves will only pull further ahead if he uses potions (potion bonuses are factored in prior to other bonuses, meaning the Dragon Slayer Gloves multiplier will be based off of his boosted level, not his base level).

 

Granted, this analysis does not take into account Max Hit, so the higher strength bonus from Barrows Gloves could still outweigh the extra accuracy from the Dragon Slayer Gloves.

 

EDIT: I just considered the possibility that Slayer Helm's bonus may have put the Barrows Gloves setup ahead, however, after doing the math out with the 15% for Barrows Gloves and the 25% (15% + 10%) for Dragon Slayer Gloves, Dragon Slayer Gloves still won out slightly.

 

EDIT #2: On topic, I always do my Metal Dragon tasks. Even though they are slower experience, I don't mind them, and the chance for Dragon Platelegs, or even a Draconic Visage is always enticing :lol:

 

I also find that Whip tends to be better for Irons, and LBS is better for Steels. This is just one of those "I think" kind of things though. I've never actually looked into it, I just did a task with Whip and a task with LBS, and liked the Whip task better lol. It should be noted that I have 99 Attack, so you may be more interested in the extra accuracy against Irons than I was.

[aspeeder]

Actually Aspeeder, using the "Max Attack Roll" Equation that people have generally agreed upon:

(Max Attack Roll is essentially how accurate you are)

13 + Level + (Level * Bonus / 64) + (Bonus / 8)

 

Using your same slash bonuses:

 

With Barrows Gloves: 104

With Dragon Slayer Gloves: 92

 

Using his Attack Level:

 

88

 

You end up with:

 

Barrows Gloves:

Max Attack Roll = 13 + 88 + 88*104/64 + 104 / 8

= 13 + 88 + 143 + 13

= 257

 

Dragon Slayer Gloves:

Max Attack Roll = 13 + (1.1)88 + (1.1)88*92/64 + 92/8

= 13 + 96.8 + 139.15 + 11.5

= 260.45

= 260

 

Dragon Slayer Gloves actually end up giving you a higher Max Attack Roll compared to Barrows Gloves, and the Dragon Slayer Gloves will only pull further ahead if he uses potions (potion bonuses are factored in prior to other bonuses, meaning the Dragon Slayer Gloves multiplier will be based off of his boosted level, not his base level).

 

Granted, this analysis does not take into account Max Hit, so the higher strength bonus from Barrows Gloves could still outweigh the extra accuracy from the Dragon Slayer Gloves.

Good to know :blink: , but yes the accuracy difference at such high numbers seems insignificant compared to the str bonus. Maybe I should give my dragon slayer gloves a run sometime.

[tonguetamer3]

Yeah, my bet would be that the Extra Strength from the Barrows Gloves would probably outweigh the Dragon Slayer Gloves extra accuracy (although I'm not sure). The extra XP also comes into account, so it's probably more of a judgement call.

[shawn3090]

IMO the Dragon Slayer gloves are only worth it at steel, black, mithril, and solo KBD tasks.