Pickpocketing Dwarf-traders

[amoroso]

I have been pickpocketing the dwarf traders (556,5 xp) for some time now. I counted the times getting caught and being succesfull.

 

At level 91 thieving I had an average succesrate of 30%. The range was between 24% and 34%. The number of tests were 18. Average XP = 24k, Minimum 18k, Maximum 29k.

 

At level 93 thieving I had an average succesrate of 32%. The range was between 27% and 37%. The number of tests were 21. Average XP = 27k, Minimum 20k, Maximum 34k.

 

At level 95 thieving I had an average succesrate of 34%. The range was between 29% and 41%. The number of tests were 25. Average XP = 29k, Minimum 24k, Maximum 39k.

 

At level 97 thieving I had an average succesrate of 38%. The range was between 33% and 45%. The number of tests were 19. Average XP = 32k, Minimum 25k, Maximum 43k

 

The mentioned loot on the website is not complete. They give all the smithing ores and bars (noted), so only not gold and silver. Iron bar, iron ore and bronze bar are the most common loot.

 

Gloves of silence really do make a difference here. Without them you will find it hard to reach the minimum amount of XP.

 

Compared to the best way of levelling, Pyramid Plunder, this method comes very close to the amount of xp. In a run of 5 minutes PP i get on average 21k xp. So 10 minutes would give me 42k xp. Pickpocketing dwarf traders (see above) will give that xp in 10 min time. The time for restarting (2x PP and 1x getting bribe for the dwarf traders) is about the same.

So why do i prefer pickpocketing dwarftraders? Because of the loot i get. In 2,5 hours time I got over 500k of loot from the dwarftraders. From PP you will not get any, unless you go for a quick run to exchange your artefacts. However, the reward is not even close to the dwarf traders and takes extra time, so less xp per hour.

 

Well, I hope this will be useful for other players.

[Grimy_Bunyip]

so let me get this straight

each "test" = 10 minutes of pickpocketing dwarf traders?

[amoroso]

so let me get this straight

each "test" = 10 minutes of pickpocketing dwarf traders?

 

Yes, each test is 10 minutes of pickpocketing.

[Obtaurian]

That's not much of a test. I'm interested in seeing a full guide on this, though, because it seems like it'd be kind of fun to do.

[Grimy_Bunyip]

so let me get this straight

each "test" = 10 minutes of pickpocketing dwarf traders?

 

Yes, each test is 10 minutes of pickpocketing.

that's very interesting info then, jagex balanced that update better than i thought :P

from your data it looks like the traders start being worth it at around lvl 95+?

 

dont suppose you have the loot catalogued somewhere too?

 

That's not much of a test. I'm interested in seeing a full guide on this, though, because it seems like it'd be kind of fun to do.

it's still 14 hours of data

[amoroso]

If you don't mind taking a few hours longer to get to lvl 99 I recommend to pickpocket the dwarf traders as soon as you can (lvl 91). Otherwise it would be best from lvl 95+.

 

About the loot:

 

I have one loot catalogued. This is stacked from 18 (could be one more or less) x 10 minutes of pickpocketing at lvl 94-95.

 

52,400 coins

98 tin ore

111 copper ore

122 bronze bar

142 iron ore

114 iron bar

35 coal ore

66 steel bar

52 mithril ore

32 mithril bar

24 adamantite ore

16 adamantite bar

11 runite ore

14 runite bar

 

Some other tips for this method:

 

- When getting an assignment from the company-director (to bribe the floor guards) he will ask you to deliver a certain amounts of bars to him. This is either bronze, iron, steel, silver, gold or mithril. The number of bars ranges from 2-4.

- When completing the assignment you will get 10 minutes time to pickpocket the dwarf traders without any intervention of the floor guards. Besides that the director will also pay you a small amount of money for the delivered bars. It turns out that gold bars sell really well (around 350gp each). However, steel and mithril bars will not give you that much.

- If you don't like the assignment, than click on the director again before you have accepted the assignment. This will give you another assignment. Continue this untill you get the assignment you really like.

- The tradefloor guards can hit hard and fast. If stunned they can hit up to 500 damage before you can run. So it is adviced to wear some protective armour and to keep a good eye at your lifepoints.

[12pure34]

Tried using the Ardougne cape (hard / elite) with the gloves of silence?

Also try and get a 2/3/4 x 100 sample on the succes rate. Really curious about larger numbers. Also, after a while, can we assume the bars / ores you get from thieving is more then sufficient to bribe the guards?

[amoroso]

Tried using the Ardougne cape (hard / elite) with the gloves of silence?

 

I do not have the elite ardougne cloak. This could even improve the ratings i have given.

 

 

Also try and get a 2/3/4 x 100 sample on the succes rate. Really curious about larger numbers.

 

Each test contains 10 minutes of pickpocketing in which you get 150-200 tries. So I think this question is allready answered :-)

 

Also, after a while, can we assume the bars / ores you get from thieving is more then sufficient to bribe the guards?

 

The wealth gained with 10 minutes of pickpocketing exceeds the costs for bribes big time. I have had runs of 10 minutes in which i gained 150k + on profit. This, however, is dependent on the amount of runite ore/bar you get. But even in 'unlucky' runs you gain a minimum of 20k in 10 minutes.

[12pure34]

Tried using the Ardougne cape (hard / elite) with the gloves of silence?

 

I do not have the elite ardougne cloak. This could even improve the ratings i have given.

 

 

Also try and get a 2/3/4 x 100 sample on the succes rate. Really curious about larger numbers.

 

Each test contains 10 minutes of pickpocketing in which you get 150-200 tries. So I think this question is allready answered :-)

 

Also, after a while, can we assume the bars / ores you get from thieving is more then sufficient to bribe the guards?

 

The wealth gained with 10 minutes of pickpocketing exceeds the costs for bribes big time. I have had runs of 10 minutes in which i gained 150k + on profit. This, however, is dependent on the amount of runite ore/bar you get. But even in 'unlucky' runs you gain a minimum of 20k in 10 minutes.

 

The Ardougne cape hard is sufficient for the thieving bonus. The only bonus of elite is the farming patch teleport will be infinite.

 

What I meant by gained wealth, is the question if what you steal pays for what you bribe: e.g. when you stole for 10 minutes, did you have stolen what was required to bribe them. Meaning ;) you don't need to leave the area because you have it in your inventory. Not in worth but the exact item.

 

Quite an interesting thieving matter tough. Perhaps try something with the master farmer to now seed prices are so high? Perhaps a familiar that raises thieving level?

[JacTise69]

You do realize that with gloves of silence and ardy cape 3 you can get between 70-100 k exp per hour and between 500 k - 1 mil per hour stealing from the master farmer at 90+. Fill your inv with one of every seed that is worth more than 4 k and the rest something to take up space such as cakes. Useless seeds drop to the floor while the ones that make you rich you keep. Having 58 agility allows for quadruple pickpockets which on a snapdragon seed nets you about 300 k. Much better cash than dwarf traders and decent enough exp. Its reported to have successfully pickpocketed over 3000 times in a row at 95+ thieving.

[la la la]

No, there are 3 better methods: Pyramid Plunder, Blackjacking, and Sorceress' garden. All faster. However, you could argue this is more profitable.

[Triquos]

A few pointers:

 

Pyramid Plunder can sometimes give you the pharoah's sceptre (at least 600k+ from memory?) so it can profit you, technically. That's if you go for the chests that give the sceptre. But yes it's not just something that can only give you exp.

 

 

I tried dwarf traders, and you do fail a lot with them. I am 91 thieving and I use gloves of silence, ardy cloak 3, and abyssal lurker for the +4 thieving and still find it quite frustrating. It is different to pyramid plunder however, and it is a VERY nice break from the monotonous running around in circles approach. I use gold bars for the bribes, as I think they're the cheapest bar. Bronze bars are something like 200+ gp, so I think gold bars are best for the bribes.

 

If you include exp rates and boosts to improve your pickpocketing success i.e. abyssal lurker/gloves of silence/ardy cloak 3 and more info on what is best to use for bribes etc. this could be a really nice guide.

 

It's helped me a bit, thanks!