Jagex's updates

[Lava_Minerr]

I've been playing runescape for about 4 years on and off and there have been some significant changes in the game, so i like, many i dislike. Heres a few examples:

 

1) The failed Dungeoneering update.. clearly Jagex are stupid enough to not realise this is not classified as a skill. As far as i understand a skill is something where it can be trained in numerous places and requires nothing else apart from money e.g. Firemaking, Woodcutting, Runecrafting and the list goes on. Dungeoneering can only be trained at one spot where it requires many different skills to move forward through the floors. That is what a minigame is. So to train the skill you need extra requirments, this is at a disadvantage to new players.. The main problem with this is that you receive rewards for specific levels and you cannot making money. Every other skill in the game, in some way or another, helps a person in Rs to make money, Dungeoneering DOES NOT. Dungeoneering is a minigame and everyone knows it, yet Jagex can't see it?

 

2) Hp, or now know as "Constitution". One of the worst updates to date, they claim this update is to help new players get the feel of the game and not get bored when their combat levels are all 1. Multiplying the system by 10 ruined it.. Runescape "veterans" are never thought about during these updates and Jagex can only think of new players. All the maxing videos are ruined? Yet many people know this update was purely to compete with WoW.

 

3) Minor updates like the Hitpoints bar and weapon looks, everyone loved the classic design of the rune scimitar and the Hp bar, yet again Jagex ruined it by making it all new and glossy

 

and the list could go on.

 

So why does Jagex never listen to players, they dont take on feedback and looking at suggestions.

 

Rant over, thats better..

[Sir_Squab]

No, not everyone liked the old scimitar look or HP bar....I'm perfectly content with the way they are now. And people who read realize that the 2nd half of the constitution update opens up new opportunities. Besides, as "useless" as people call this update, I have never seen one reason on why it was a NEGATIVE update. People were just bugged by the change. It doesn't do any harm does it?

 

As for dungeoneering....well, you kinda have a point about it being a mini-game. But as for money making and how all skills make money....the main way to train many skills is to lose money. At least with dungeoneering you don't lose out.

 

And fyi, do you really think Jagex doesn't know about rants like yours?

[Lava_Minerr]

No, not everyone liked the old scimitar look or HP bar....I'm perfectly content with the way they are now. And people who read realize that the 2nd half of the constitution update opens up new opportunities. Besides, as "useless" as people call this update, I have never seen one reason on why it was a NEGATIVE update. People were just bugged by the change. It doesn't do any harm does it?

 

As for dungeoneering....well, you kinda have a point about it being a mini-game. But as for money making and how all skills make money....the main way to train many skills is to lose money. At least with dungeoneering you don't lose out.

 

And fyi, do you really think Jagex doesn't know about rants like yours?

 

Jagex might not realise this rant but surely they don't look at all the complaints and review their update to make changes which satisfy the majority of the people. As for skills, every skill makes money in one way or another, summoing - various help from creatures, firemaking - Shades of Morton.. and it goes on

[Basmans]

Woo 4 years, grats you're a veteran.

1) I don't care if dungeoneering is either a skill or a minigame. If you like it as a minigame don't complain. If you don't like it at all, don't use it.

2) Lol, I don't get these people compaining about the HP update. I didn't really change the gameplay, it only opened up possibilities, and it made early game more logical. Lol competing with WoW.

3) That's your opinion. IMO HP bar looks way better now. Rune scimitar looks worse in my opinion too, but you can't suit everyone.

[Guthorm]

I've been playing runescape for about 4 years on and off and there have been some significant changes in the game, so i like, many i dislike. Heres a few examples:

 

1) The failed Dungeoneering update.. clearly Jagex are stupid enough to not realise this is not classified as a skill. As far as i understand a skill is something where it can be trained in numerous places and requires nothing else apart from money e.g. Firemaking, Woodcutting, Runecrafting and the list goes on. Dungeoneering can only be trained at one spot where it requires many different skills to move forward through the floors. That is what a minigame is. So to train the skill you need extra requirments, this is at a disadvantage to new players.. The main problem with this is that you receive rewards for specific levels and you cannot making money. Every other skill in the game, in some way or another, helps a person in Rs to make money, Dungeoneering DOES NOT. Dungeoneering is a minigame and everyone knows it, yet Jagex can't see it?

 

D'eering is a skill simply because Jagex said so. Is it more like an activity than a traditional skill? Of course, but why is it a problem? Also disadvantage to new players? So what? This is meant to be a prestige skill, something higher level players have been asking forever. It is not like new players cannot train the skill, if the players put in time and effort into training, why should they not receive an advantage? Is slayer a fail skill because it gives advantage to higher combat players? Of course not. Face it, you are trying to classify something based on YOUR definition.

 

 

2) Hp, or now know as "Constitution". One of the worst updates to date, they claim this update is to help new players get the feel of the game and not get bored when their combat levels are all 1. Multiplying the system by 10 ruined it.. Runescape "veterans" are never thought about during these updates and Jagex can only think of new players. All the maxing videos are ruined? Yet many people know this update was purely to compete with WoW.

 

You know there is a dev blog about it? You are a troll aren't you?

 

3) Minor updates like the Hitpoints bar and weapon looks, everyone loved the classic design of the rune scimitar and the Hp bar, yet again Jagex ruined it by making it all new and glossy

 

Personal preference

 

I am 70% sure you are a troll, but hey if you are not then I guess QQ moar.

[AirWales]

1) The Dungeoneering update.

 

Mod Emilee stated that Jagex believes it's more of a minigame, but they do not see this as a problem because there are 24 other conventional skills. I guess the players definition of skills differs here from Jagex's, but they make the game so we're forced to take their definition.

 

2) Hitpoints update

 

They thought 0's were boring and wanted to make use of HP requirments on various game aspects (though they have yet to implement this as far as i'm aware of)

 

3) Classic RSOF Rant Section quote: "Jagex: If it ain't broke, we fix it!" I guess that pretty much summs it up.

 

Jagex never seems to listen to players because in my opinion, they have a "mother knows best" attitude towards the game. Unfortunatly we can't change this, but I reckon they will find out that they are doing some pretty bad things sooner or later.

 

Anyway Lava, hope to see you in-game soon :)

 

I am 70% sure you are a troll, but hey if you are not then I guess QQ moar.

 

This is the Rants section, not the debate club..

[Omali]

I've been playing runescape for about 4 years on and off and there have been some significant changes in the game, so i like, many i dislike. Heres a few examples:

 

Four years? That makes you just two years off of not being an rs2 product. May I smell your blouse?

 

1) The failed Dungeoneering update.. clearly Jagex are stupid enough to not realise this is not classified as a skill. As far as i understand a skill is something where it can be trained in numerous places and requires nothing else apart from money e.g. Firemaking, Woodcutting, Runecrafting and the list goes on. Dungeoneering can only be trained at one spot where it requires many different skills to move forward through the floors. That is what a minigame is. So to train the skill you need extra requirments, this is at a disadvantage to new players.. The main problem with this is that you receive rewards for specific levels and you cannot making money. Every other skill in the game, in some way or another, helps a person in Rs to make money, Dungeoneering DOES NOT. Dungeoneering is a minigame and everyone knows it, yet Jagex can't see it?

 

I didn't realize you were the curator of what is considered a skill. So does that mean that construction isn't a skill? Because you can only train it at one point: Your house. I guess construction is a mini-game.

 

Jagex said many times that Dungeoneering would be very different from any other skill in Runescape, and leveling it would be a collaboration of all of your other skills, so your whining about it not being like every other skill in Runescape, or requiring other skills confounds me. It tells me either you didn't read, or you can't read, what Jagex stated many times. More importantly, if players have low skills, they can always lower the complexity levels, and Jagex has already stated that the main path is always set up so that the player can complete it.

 

If the best that you can come up with against Dungeoneering is that it doesn't make you fast munnies, and that it requires skills and can only be trained in one place, then stop whining about it. There are people on these forums making actual points about how Dungeoneering can be improved, that are having their image tarnished by crybabies such as yourself who simply want to throw themselves down on the WalMart parking lot and flail around like a spastic five year old because they didn't get what they, in their deluded mind, perceived the skill to be.

 

2) Hp, or now know as "Constitution". One of the worst updates to date, they claim this update is to help new players get the feel of the game and not get bored when their combat levels are all 1. Multiplying the system by 10 ruined it.. Runescape "veterans" are never thought about during these updates and Jagex can only think of new players. All the maxing videos are ruined? Yet many people know this update was purely to compete with WoW.

 

Translation: My e-penis is now permanently flaccid because Jagex ruined my max hits videos. If you were an actual veteran, you would know just how many people appreciate this update, as it allows for a much more precise hit system. You would think with all the viagra spam going around the net, this wouldn't be such a problem.

 

No...I'm supposed to be supportive of these issues...Um...Size is all on your perspective. It's actually bigger than it looks from your point of view.

 

OMG DEY GIF US MOAR HELTH. MUST BE COPYING WOW. The instant you bring up competing with WoW, any doubt that you're just grasping at straws is gone.

 

3) Minor updates like the Hitpoints bar and weapon looks, everyone loved the classic design of the rune scimitar and the Hp bar, yet again Jagex ruined it by making it all new and glossy

 

The instant you feel like you represent "everyone" is the same instant you should pull your head out and recognize that you haven't made a single point, and you have to use hyperbole to make yourself sound credible.

 

So why does Jagex never listen to players, they dont take on feedback and looking at suggestions.

 

Correction: They don't listen to your feedback. If you want them to listen, consider saying something worth them listening to.

[Lava_Minerr]

LOL at these replies.. and hey Wales was just checking these forums when i found this sub forum.

[langer]

LOL at these replies.. and hey Wales was just checking these forums when i found this sub forum.

 

This is probably the reason why you are not taken seriously.

[Omali]

LOL at these replies.. and hey Wales was just checking these forums when i found this sub forum.

 

Y'all can go ahead and return to the RSOF now. No patience for little ten year old trolls.

 

[Rock Hard]

@op your wrong m8

[Lava_Minerr]

LOL at these replies.. and hey Wales was just checking these forums when i found this sub forum.

 

Y'all can go ahead and return to the RSOF now. No patience for little ten year old trolls.

 

 

I was'nt trolling, your replies just flame my opinions on the game and the purpose of this part of the forum is to rant away at the things people hate about the game, for me its these failed updates. Now if your about to say "why do you still play Rs?"

 

Answer: It's because it passes time and everything else about the game is good fun.

 

Edit: Now looking back this topic is pointless as this part of the forum acheives no purpose but to rant and see people posting against your opinions.

[quelmotz]

LOL at these replies.. and hey Wales was just checking these forums when i found this sub forum.

 

Y'all can go ahead and return to the RSOF now. No patience for little ten year old trolls.

 

 

I was'nt trolling, your replies just flame my opinions on the game and the purpose of this part of the forum is to rant away at the things people hate about the game, for me its these failed updates. Now if your about to say "why do you still play Rs?"

 

Answer: It's because it passes time and everything else about the game is good fun.

 

Edit: Now looking back this topic is pointless as this part of the forum acheives no purpose but to rant and see people posting against your opinions.

 

It can achieve things - if you know how to properly phrase your posts, present your thinking in a clear and logical manner and not make a whole post full of exaggerations, falsifications, and opinionated crap. It's ok to have opinion (after all, this is the rants forum), but when you try to pass off your opinion as superior or try to make it sound like everyone shares that opinion, along with a heck lot of other "sins" people like Omali, etc can't stand, then you can dream of "acheiveing a purpose".

[Omali]

I was'nt trolling, your replies just flame my opinions on the game

 

No, you're just like the other people who haven't actually intelligently thought out your opinion, so rather than respond to my points you just whine more that I'm flaming.

 

and the purpose of this part of the forum is to rant away at the things people hate about the game, for me its these failed updates.

 

From the Forum Rules:

 

Similar to how General Discussion topics need to supply a platform for discussion and RuneScape Bugs & Suggestions topics need well thought out ideas, your rants also need to be worthy of discussion. Rather than saying, "I don't like this, it sucks," you need to present a valid argument for your rant and back it up. When creating your topic, imagine how people would respond. Would they have something to say at all? If you can think of valid responses and discussions, the chances are that you have a valid topic/argument. As an example, if you want to rant about an aspect of the RuneScape game, first describe that aspect. Then explain what you think about it, why it negatively affects the game and/or community, and maybe even provide a solution to the problem or describe what Jagex should do to fix it.

 

Key: Well thought out, valid argument, worthy of discussion, "imagine how people would respond," provide a solution.

 

Your thread falls into none of that.

 

Now if your about to say "why do you still play Rs?"

 

Nope, not that kind of person.

 

Edit: Now looking back this topic is pointless as this part of the forum acheives no purpose but to rant and see people posting against your opinions.

 

No, as I pointed out before, it's a place to have intelligent discussion about something that is bothering you about Runescape, something you are incapable of with this thread.

[JacTise69]

I've been playing runescape for about 4 years on and off and there have been some significant changes in the game, so i like, many i dislike. Heres a few examples:

 

1) The failed Dungeoneering update.. clearly Jagex are stupid enough to not realise this is not classified as a skill. As far as i understand a skill is something where it can be trained in numerous places and requires nothing else apart from money e.g. Firemaking, Woodcutting, Runecrafting and the list goes on. Dungeoneering can only be trained at one spot where it requires many different skills to move forward through the floors. That is what a minigame is. So to train the skill you need extra requirments, this is at a disadvantage to new players.. The main problem with this is that you receive rewards for specific levels and you cannot making money. Every other skill in the game, in some way or another, helps a person in Rs to make money, Dungeoneering DOES NOT. Dungeoneering is a minigame and everyone knows it, yet Jagex can't see it?

 

2) Hp, or now know as "Constitution". One of the worst updates to date, they claim this update is to help new players get the feel of the game and not get bored when their combat levels are all 1. Multiplying the system by 10 ruined it.. Runescape "veterans" are never thought about during these updates and Jagex can only think of new players. All the maxing videos are ruined? Yet many people know this update was purely to compete with WoW.

 

3) Minor updates like the Hitpoints bar and weapon looks, everyone loved the classic design of the rune scimitar and the Hp bar, yet again Jagex ruined it by making it all new and glossy

 

and the list could go on.

 

So why does Jagex never listen to players, they dont take on feedback and looking at suggestions.

 

Rant over, thats better..

 

1) The key phrase here is "as far as I understand". *Open mouth, insert foot* Instead of an argument as to why this is not a skill, you bring up your lack of ability to comprehend it as a skill. As such it is not the duty of other players or Jagex to increase your ability to comprehend any kind of information, I suggest an educational institution. There are many good ones on line (if you're a college student) and as far as my state is concerned everyone gets a free public education up until the point that they graduate high school. If I am not mistaken someone has already addressed the fact that construction can only be trained in one area. In addition to that there are many skills that you can not train where ever you want. Smithing is limited by anvils, hunter is limited by the location of the prey, WC is limited by where a tree grows, fishing limited by water etc. Every skill besides certain production skills such as herblore and fletching are limited by an area, and even those mentioned can not be trained extensively for hours on end where ever you want, as you need to keep getting supplies and so they end up being trained at a bank. The idea that it is not a skill because it is dependent on using other skills is ludicrous. Every single production skill is dependent on a different skill, whether it be a gathering skill to gather the supplies or another skill that you use to make money to train it. And please tell me why this skill needs to be adapted to be more enjoyable for new players. The goal in any good game is to have content that is enjoyable at every level. If everything is enjoyable at the beginning and none is enjoyable once you've reached the top then your player base dries up and you lose your business. To top it all off no, the only reason to train a skill is not just to make money, some people train skills for fun, and last time i checked you don't cash in big time training agility to 99. Sure you can use 99 agility to use shortcuts to get to monsters quicker and make money that way, but a new weapon that's more powerful than a GS would help with that too... *glances over at the chaotic longsword*

 

2. No one starts at combat level 1...we all start at 3.

"Multiplying the system by 10 ruined it" --- Substantiate please.

"Yet many players know this update was purely to compete with WoW." ---Substantiate please.

To the contrary of this update ruining anything, it increased the amount of damage we do and gave us a more accurate combat system. Before if your hit was registered as a 12.9 you would be credited with a 12. Now you are credited for the 129, and awared experience accordingly. It made it slightly easier for leveling combat as well as being more accurate. It also opens many opportunities such as constitution boosting equipment, which is going to be needed if the powercreep on bosses is anything to judge by. Veterans meaning who? Your 4 years of gaming isn't close to getting you said status compared to the rest of us who have played since RSC. And Jagex, as well as the majority of the RS population, probably couldn't care less about maxing videos. So you have video recording software, a lot of pixelated money in RS and too much time on your hands as well as friends who are willing to let you [cabbage] on them for hours on end trying to see how high you can hit even though the probability of doing so against a real player in a PKing situation is slim to none? Get over yourself please.

 

3) "everyone loved the classic design of the rune scimitar and the Hp bar" ---False, I hated both. I like the new and shiny pixels. Try to use phrases like "many players" instead of "everyone". It may make you appear to have some semblance of credibility.

 

Jagex listens to players who show even an iota of intelligence that is put into feedback. This rant show neither intelligence nor does it suggest any sort of remedy for any of your supposed problems. But thank you for making one of the few rants that is so infuriatingly ill conceived that it actually made me hit the reply button and type this out. As another player already suggested, if you want to be listened to, say something worth saying.

[Cacmypants]

The OP needs to stand back and think about what he is saying, there is no problem being addressed, he's RAGEing because he keeps hearing other immature prats complaining then just automatically agrees with them (ala sheep mentality).

 

Jagex has totally just barged in and trashed your room, right?

 

It would be more accurate to say they calmly entered their own house to adjust the placement of a few ornamets - then you (as the guest) angrily order them to stop, you liked the clutter, you've grown attached to that fallen coat-hanger across the door etc. Then they kindly offer you a lolly-pop despite your insults - you take one taste and throw it into the carpet because it wasn't the right flavour. Afterwards you wonder why they don't listen while screaming through their open window. Don't be too disappointed, I'm sure Jagex loves the money you keep slipping through their letter-box with zero obligation.

 

nice...