Various questions

[L0rdAki]

So I'm like a little sick of pietying all tasks because I chew up a metric ton of prayer pots (fiends ATM, and I'm too tight to buy a zs so I'm borrowing, and it's chewing heaps of prayer pots.) I've basically been assured that you at least break even (I personally haven't, but meh). Meh.

 

How much faster does pietying all tasks really make it? Is it exactly what it says on the tin? (20ish percent) How long does it take to break even?

 

In addition, if I wanted to get high melees, boss, and slay, which would be the fastest route? Is it worth maxing out before slaying? Slaying with my pathetic stats gives slow exp, about 15k/hour? On average. I'm training for bosses so I can make cash, also a factor.

 

Gp/exp bursting lobs? Mage exp. Or in ape atoll tunnels. No battles.

 

Foolproof fightcaves method? What levels/gear do you need to have to spec out (noskill) jad?

[MstrMonopoly]

How are you only getting 15k experience an hour? I'm getting ~20k using cannon on like 2 tasks.

 

I wouldn't stop slaying, otherwise, you're wasting melee experience later.

 

EDIT: Looked at tests, actually getting closer to ~22k.

[D Jay99]

You seriously need to stop worrying about whether you are being efficient or not.

As I see it you don't really have any money making skills so I'd suggest just using 10% strength, honestly good enough. Only piety things with lots of defence.

 

But it doesn't really sound like you like slayer anyway, so if you just want high stats fast for mhing go armoured zombies or something. Just don't complain when you're maxed and you want to train slayer but can't without wasting lots of xp.

 

As for bursting, you can get like 180k mage xp at rock lobs per 1k bursts and 1k bursts is 1400k (?) or something, so 7.75 gp/xp. Don't bother with ape atoll.

 

DO NOT BOTHER with rushing jad, I tried it 3 times on task and honestly the only time I even came close to killing him was when I got a perfect italy spawn. Still died because I misclicked whip and kicked him twice, but could have won. Other 2 times I got 2-hit because the spawn sucked. This was with pretty much maxed stats so it's basically not possible for you.

Just use kuradal and do jad tasks wheneven you get them, watch some vids and just range him. 2-3 tries should be all you need.

[L0rdAki]

Mr, look at your stats, then look at mine. I also don't cannon any tasks.

 

Djay, I have no prayer switching skills, hence why I don't wanna do td's. I can't make cash, and can't get a fire cape. I just want to know which saves more time, gaining superflous exp is no bother really. I like slayer, but it's slow. I like mining rune ess, too, but it's useless. I love worrying abot efficiancy, as I don't wanna waste a few hundred hours.

 

Also, I don't want a fire cape now, I see it as a useless show off item ( I pray most thigs anyway, so sw cape is better). I just want to rush him with some degree of success, i've seen it done, no matter the reqs.

 

Edit: I meant now as in right at this moment, and why not bother bursting at ape atoll? People chin there, and they can't be that resistant to Mage...

[schmuall]

Firstly, if you're pieting I presume you have the correct equipment.

 

Full Slayer helm

Proselyte Body

Veracs skirt

Fury

Soul wars cape

d boots

suitable ring

barrows gloves

 

Not much of this can be substituted ( are a few exceptions, but not many).

 

Your stats are fine to be slaying with, don't worry about training them up first, no-one is ever going to say that 80's are to olow to slay with.

 

Do Not expect to no skill Jad. Either do it properly, or don't do it at all. You will NOT make it.

[anonymouse_]

Mr, look at your stats, then look at mine. I also don't cannon any tasks.

 

Djay, I have no prayer switching skills, hence why I don't wanna do td's. I can't make cash, and can't get a fire cape. I just want to know which saves more time, gaining superflous exp is no bother really. I like slayer, but it's slow. I like mining rune ess, too, but it's useless. I love worrying abot efficiancy, as I don't wanna waste a few hundred hours.

 

Also, I don't want a fire cape now, I see it as a useless show off item ( I pray most thigs anyway, so sw cape is better). I just want to rush him with some degree of success, i've seen it done, no matter the reqs.

 

Edit: I meant now as in right at this moment, and why not bother bursting at ape atoll? People chin there, and they can't be that resistant to Mage...

You need to be maxed, or almost maxed to have a decent chance of killing jad when rushing. If I were you, I would just do AZ's or something, max out melee, and go do gwd until you have a decent cash pile. From there you can start worrying about being efficient while slaying and you'll actually be able to afford chinning/bursting. Personally I hated slayer before I was maxed, it just seemed to go too slow even when using the best gear.

[MstrMonopoly]

Mr, look at your stats, then look at mine. I also don't cannon any tasks.

 

Djay, I have no prayer switching skills, hence why I don't wanna do td's. I can't make cash, and can't get a fire cape. I just want to know which saves more time, gaining superflous exp is no bother really. I like slayer, but it's slow. I like mining rune ess, too, but it's useless. I love worrying abot efficiancy, as I don't wanna waste a few hundred hours.

 

Also, I don't want a fire cape now, I see it as a useless show off item ( I pray most thigs anyway, so sw cape is better). I just want to rush him with some degree of success, i've seen it done, no matter the reqs.

 

Edit: I meant now as in right at this moment, and why not bother bursting at ape atoll? People chin there, and they can't be that resistant to Mage...

 

My stats aren't that much better than yours, save for the higher attack and slightly higher strength/summ.

 

Fire cape... do it regularly. It's better than no skilling by a lot.

[Low C]

Go get a task, kill monster, rinse and repeat thats how I slay. I turmoil all tasks and still don't worry about money even with my mere 500k cash pile I know I'll still make it back in the long run since slayer usually profits. If you sit back and relax and play runescape like its a game you'll feel better about achieving higher levels. It's taken me years to get somewhat higher stats, (they still aren't up to par imo) but I just take one level at a time and try not to over-analyze things.

[D Jay99]

Edit: I meant now as in right at this moment, and why not bother bursting at ape atoll? People chin there, and they can't be that resistant to Mage...

People would chin rock lobs if they didn't have lots of range def. Charms >>> time saved, don't bother with monkeys.

[L0rdAki]

I'm using that gear, except glory instead of fury.

 

Lowc, I've had low stats for ages, and I'm sick of it. Maxing with slayer will take like another year on top of az's :S

 

Mr, 99 attack is a big difference. Easily explains 20k+ exp/hour over mine.

[Obtaurian]

I'm using that gear, except glory instead of fury.

 

Lowc, I've had low stats for ages, and I'm sick of it. Maxing with slayer will take like another year on top of az's :S

 

Mr, 99 attack is a big difference. Easily explains 20k+ exp/hour over mine.

 

Actually, it's all of your low stats combined that reduce your experience, but keep in mind that slayer is not entirely dependent on gear. A lot of it is HOW you slay.

 

All of your topics are exactly the same, so I'll give you some good, general advice:

 

JUST PLAY RUNESCAPE AND STOP WORRYING SO MUCH.

 

Do you enjoy slayer? Then train combat via slayer. It's that simple. Zarfot got 99 slayer in six months from 70 using worse gear than you, and that got him max combat.

[geesch]

I think you should let people play how they want. If people want to try to play as efficiently as possible, then left them - to each his own. I plan on maxing combat without training slayer. This is because, now that i have 2k+ overloads, i want to boss hunt. Getting 99 through slayer will take a long time. The way i see it is that i can max now, boss hunt a lot, then when i choose to get slayer up, i can train slayer at max speed to my desired level. It would take a lot of data to determine whether this is efficient or not, but it fits with the way i want to play. Maxing from 90 should take around 250 hours of AZs to get all 99s. I imagine doing it via slayer would make it take 3 times longer, or more.

[Low C]

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You see geesch its basically becoming spam at this point because he's posted multiple threads that look the exact same talking about being efficient. In his early threads we tried to help him be efficient but he was bound and determined to not do so because he thinks being efficient doesn't require money or an attention span. Which is why people are telling him to chill and just play normally. If he feels like Az's till maxed melee's so be it. But im sure he will find a way to need to become efficient at that and we will have to explain that differences in prayer boosting gear, what to pray, ect, all determine xp/hr and all that jazz. Till then I'll be awaiting a new thread from L0rdAki.

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[Jagiella]

Lowc, I've had low stats for ages, and I'm sick of it. Maxing with slayer will take like another year on top of az's :S

 

If you're sick of low stats, do something about it. Other players don't magically obtain 99 slayer and other combat stats. It takes work; effort; time.

With your stats the only way you could be getting that low of exp is if you're not paying attention or just checking your exp every five seconds. If you still disagree with me, use super atk/str potions on every task.

And don't even start with "Oh my stats aren't nearly as good as yours that's why I'm not doing as well." I slayed with 80 atk/str/def and easily got around 20k xp/hr

[Aiel]

if your using a ton of ppots, your probably afking which also explains your low xp rate.

[MstrMonopoly]

if your using a ton of ppots, your probably afking which also explains your low xp rate.

 

Lol yeah, I only use piety on metal drags and sometimes abyssal demons because it takes too much attention and clicking with prayer pots.

[Lacoste]

You're really over thinking everything your doing. :wall: Do what you feel like doing, jeeze, so what if slayer is going to take you longer, nbd, those bosses aren't going anywhere.

[L0rdAki]

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You see geesch its basically becoming spam at this point because he's posted multiple threads that look the exact same talking about being efficient. In his early threads we tried to help him be efficient but he was bound and determined to not do so because he thinks being efficient doesn't require money or an attention span. Which is why people are telling him to chill and just play normally. If he feels like Az's till maxed melee's so be it. But im sure he will find a way to need to become efficient at that and we will have to explain that differences in prayer boosting gear, what to pray, ect, all determine xp/hr and all that jazz. Till then I'll be awaiting a new thread from L0rdAki.

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Hey, it gives you something to do :D

 

I'm aware that being efficiant requires money and an attention span, I'm a little lacking in the money department. Slayer's stupidly slower then training melees at AZ's or something.

 

Besides, the game is basically about how efficiant you can be, cause you're only gonna live so long.

 

Lowc, I've had low stats for ages, and I'm sick of it. Maxing with slayer will take like another year on top of az's :S

 

If you're sick of low stats, do something about it. Other players don't magically obtain 99 slayer and other combat stats. It takes work; effort; time.

With your stats the only way you could be getting that low of exp is if you're not paying attention or just checking your exp every five seconds. If you still disagree with me, use super atk/str potions on every task.

And don't even start with "Oh my stats aren't nearly as good as yours that's why I'm not doing as well." I slayed with 80 atk/str/def and easily got around 20k xp/hr

 

 

Dunno how you did it.

 

if your using a ton of ppots, your probably afking which also explains your low xp rate.

 

I'm not afking, i'm constantly watching the screen and flicking to my stats tab so I know when to repot (10 levels below max, about 1.8? spec bars) and when to spec. It's my stats.

[Aiel]

its not "your stats" as you so often claim, the difference between your stats and mine is practically unnoticeable and I average 25k p/h. Your either doing something wrong, or underestimating the amount of xp/ph you get.

[L0rdAki]

95/92/99 is a big difference to 80/80/80.

 

I tend to go with the lowest end of the spectrum - so I don't overclaim outragous exp rates. What I will do, starting sometime, is actually collect accurate data...>_>

[Obtaurian]

Sorry to say, buddy, but you're not going to get amazing experience rates slaying with your combat stats. You either enjoy slayer enough to want to keep going, or you don't. It's all up to you. Armored zombies will be faster melee experience for you.

 

There's nothing we can say to help you, because it's up to you to decide how much you enjoy slayer.

[L0rdAki]

Yeah, I'll give up the whole efficiancy thing, I suppose it's really not worth it after all. I've been praying all tasks in the vain hope of getting amazing exp...

 

Moving on to cost, when about will I start breaking even pietying all tasks?

 

Oh, also, is it worth raising Mage via combat, ever? If you're not a rich-ass sob.

 

I like dungeoneering, but come across those skill doors that I can't open a tad too often (usually rc or something...>_>). Is it worth getting all skills 70+ or even 75+ just for dung? Also, should I main melee/Mage or melée/range?

[MstrMonopoly]

Just wanted to clear something up... I seem to have gotten Bloodvelds an abnormal amount, this probably accounts for my rather high xp.

[L0rdAki]

I never get velds, they're one of the first things I want to block/cancel. I don't get them often, but they suck exp wise for me (I don't cannon), and are generally irritating.