Iconic Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 To update your budget just add more people, I sugguest you use excel for that since then the rest corrects itself automatically.Could you please send me your Excel spreadsheet so that I can use it. [Falador tavern] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 I can upload it, then you just have to fix commas to dots, and exchange an variables and the numbers in other incomes (which I made to be GDP - tax income / population in 2010 * population variable). Here: http://www.mediafire.com/?wjvdinadmmi Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconic Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Ok, could you upload it please and I can begin working it out. [Falador tavern] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Uploaded and ready! ^^ Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconic Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Mather, I downloaded it but found out I don't have Excel, I have the disk and will download it tommorow but for now I can't work out my GDP change. And I don't think what Doom is saying is right, I thought it was entirely based on population. -Crazy scientific advancements are to be shared with the entire world. Nobody has to right to discover energy-efficient cars and manufacture them exclusively. And surely we are not following this rule, it appears we didn't in the first hegemony. we're gonna sayUgh!You mean you decide. The way your saying it is as if you are the boss of all things, its as if I was to say "Right, I am your new leader: anyone who disagree's is kicked from the game". I think we should stick to GDP as its easy to calculate (three function buttons on a calculator) Anyways, shouldn't Sere decide?No, Sere is emulating fatortoise and he's left and we are to decide for ourselves now. [Falador tavern] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Maybe, or we could if there aren't going to be any militaristic nations here... *Looks at Dusty and Rocco* Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 I'll be as I set up an empire, then settle down. Anyway, my country details will be posted in a sec. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconic Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Yay, Icu I like you because you seem very reasonable and pretty bright. Maybe, or we could if there aren't going to be any militaristic nations here... *Looks at Dusty and Rocco*Yeh, I suppose it would be better if were allowed to keep it a secret, if I was to interpret the rules I would say that he wanted us all to stay allys but I don't think thats going to be very fun or even happen.Anyway, I haven't decided how to play yet; I could be really peaceful and happy or just decide to barrage someone with attacks of millions of extremly unneficiant soldiers. [Falador tavern] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 I think it'd be more fun if we could ally and fight NPCs. Also I like to research just for the heck of it. :razz: That reminds me: Norway begins researching CO2 scrubbers and better solar cells. Theese will just keep going, but I'll let them "settle in" before start researching more. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Okay what is the population growth and GDP growth, I need this before I work out my stuff. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Just fix the sheath (if you're using it) add ~5% to population for this first year, then we'll stick to ~2%. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconic Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 What is expensabillity factor? [Falador tavern] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted June 23, 2010 Share Posted June 23, 2010 Just a fancy word I made for how much of your cash you actually can use. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisp Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 we're gonna sayUgh!You mean you decide. The way your saying it is as if you are the boss of all things, its as if I was to say "Right, I am your new leader: anyone who disagree's is kicked from the game". I think we should stick to GDP as its easy to calculate (three function buttons on a calculator) Ok, one: That's pretty much how it worked in Hegemony v1. I've never 'kicked' anyone from the game, and never even mentioned that. I think you're having issues with understanding how I'm saying the system should work. Previously, people calculated it based on gdp per capita. So if they had a 10% population growth, their gdp would grow by a minimum of 10% per year. The way that works better is that it's based on total gdp, so that overpopulating your country only decreases the quality of life. My way is actually simpler, with gdp per capita*population, it would have to be(Pop*growth rate)*(gdp/capita*growth rate)My way is (Gdp*growth rate)It makes the game a lot less [developmentally delayed]ed too, seeing as in the first hegemony everyone just gave themselves huge gdp/capita and population growth rates.With this 'system' you can only sustain 2% growth rate for gdp (by comparison, in the last successful hegemony, people had general around .2% growth rate per year). This also means that you could, in theory, have higher population growth rates, but that would just cause greater poverty. Hegemony-Spain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Okay so we have a max of 2% increase or our economy begins to fail slightly. So that means my budget right now IS 266,949,993,600 Disregard the army stuff, I just read the wikipedia and we have a huge army. Going to quickly check the army of all surrounding areas to make sure that I'm not going to get pwned if I invade. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Why do you act like you're the boss of this game? If anyone should be then either Sere or Archi, I prefer the former but there shouldn't need to be one anyways. Poverty and wealth (avg. income) should not be needed to be affected unless someone decides to go for a growth rate of 20% (which would be unaxeptable anyways).Taxes would not change.Companies and other "stuff" gains employees. Thus it should be population growth = financial growth. If you can think of anything important that is missing from my template then please tell, but currently it's the most precise I can think of as the variables can be changed with ease and they can be finely calibrated to match the nation's real values. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Meh well anyway, after studying the army of the nations near me, I have worked out a war with these nations will be easy :D. Vietnam declares war on Cambodia We move in 5 million troops, and spread them out across the country to conquer them faster, as their army stands at 2 million who're fit for military service, and this includes civillians. The shock of the attack, and total uncalled forness should render them confused and disorientated. I say the war should last 2 years, and I shall suffer around 1.5 million casualties. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retech Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Well Mather, it's not directly related, if you think about it. The new population will be a buncha babies, and if we have a large growth rate, a huge part of the population will be babies. Babies don't really do much, unless poop contributes to the economy. Master of your domain? I am Lord of the manor, Queen of the castle, King of the county! Former moderator of the original DungeoneeringFormer moderator of Ye Olde HegemonyModerator of the remake of DungeoneeringFormer Empress of the Lichten Empire (Hegemony)Former President of the United States (Hegemony)Former Emporer of Imperial Japan (Hegemony)Czarina Catherine of Imperial Russia (Hegemony The only difference between a disagreement between friends, an argument between strangers, and a feud between enemies is the ability to reconcile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconic Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 the world military has been obliterated You need to start your military again.Mather, is this all right for working out budget.GDP per capita * population * 0.20And to work out population.A1 Population * 0.02 A2 Population + a1 [Falador tavern] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted June 24, 2010 Author Share Posted June 24, 2010 Nah. I never said that. ;) Just because there's a bloody New World Order doesn't mean that people still can't kill each other. What's the fun in that? SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconic Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 No it just means that the army has been disbanded and if he wants it again he needs to train more soldiers, thats much fairer and even if we were to keep the chinese military he wouldn't have 5,000,000Including reserves (which don't really fight) China has an army of 3,455,000. [Falador tavern] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Well Mather, it's not directly related, if you think about it. The new population will be a buncha babies, and if we have a large growth rate, a huge part of the population will be babies. Babies don't really do much, unless poop contributes to the economy.In the first hegemony we just said only people who can work counted on population at all. Edel, I find Just GDP per capita * population to be a bit too simple, you can't change taxes and avg. income there, which some people might want to do. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icuownage Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Okay has it, then we use last years time to train a million under trained men, and this year to train 250,000 standard men. It's a REALLY big shaft.I didn't catch fire, I used the can of hairspray as a flamethrower and pointed it at my arm.how are you going to ignore my posts when I'm offering to let you live as my vassal in two weeks time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iconic Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Lol, using time travel :).How do I use expendability factor? [Falador tavern] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Mather1 Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 You don't, it's just there to act as a number to use for calculating how much cash you can use on what you want. Twitter: @TheMather1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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