TRUE L0VE?

[WutangFlu]

when you first experience it, its a state of euphoria.. you dont know what to make of it, you know its wonderful and you want something to happen.

[Poopingman]

I don't try to attack your posts. Don't get too excited. I click on a post... read the topic, and the replies (most of them anyways). When I see one of your "mentally debatable" replies, I simply must make fun of it. I'd do it to anyone else trust me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So please don't think I'm singling you out.

 

 

 

I think you're singling me out, and I can't trust you. I simply laid out some facts and what I think is true, noone has been able to "prove" love exists. So what reason is there for one to believe it even exists? I prefer logic and reasoning over speculation and superstition.

[pinayavi]

can whoever is fighting can you not cozzzzzz yeahhh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hey yup im pilipino

[Faux]

can whoever is fighting can you not cozzzzzz yeahhh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hey yup im pilipino

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good to know another one exists here :)

[kirbybeam]

In my experience, there is no such thing as "love" or true love for that matter. Its just a heightened stage of lust ,the guy wants a piece, the girl succumbs to him acting like he really likes her for her. It cycles through, either ends quickly or after the guy has gotten what hes after, the girl is usually devastated, but for whatever reason, falls for the next guy etc. etc. etc. it goes on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, and what is your experience exactly? High School? Trust me, what most consider "love" in high school is exactly what you said, lust.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When you love someone, there isn't any lust involved. You love them for who they are, not because you want sex with them. Now, I know a girl, and she means a lot to me, more than any girl. The thing is, I don't feel for her the same way I do about other girls. For other girls, I feel "oh yeah, I would want to hit that..etc." but with her, it's different. I am not sure how to explain it. It's not that I don't want sex, it's that it isn't important with reguards to her. Just being with her, talking to her, and making her happy is more than enough for me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is that love? I wouldn't know. But when I met her I couldn't stop thinking about her for several days...and I still can't stop. Sometimes I just stop whatever I'm doing and just think about her, it feels good.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You tell me what that is if not love. :?

[snyper_freak]

 

I don't try to attack your posts. Don't get too excited. I click on a post... read the topic, and the replies (most of them anyways). When I see one of your "mentally debatable" replies, I simply must make fun of it. I'd do it to anyone else trust me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So please don't think I'm singling you out.

 

 

 

I think you're singling me out, and I can't trust you. I simply laid out some facts and what I think is true, noone has been able to "prove" love exists. So what reason is there for one to believe it even exists? I prefer logic and reasoning over speculation and superstition.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Logic doesn't always explain everything, you should know that..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Either way, i hope you enjoy being a sad little lonely person your entire life, while the rest of us enjoy being with the person we love the most, if we so choose to be :)

[assassin_696]

To quote a famous Bible reading:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. Love never fails.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But what is true love? I believe that true love is the complete sense of the willingness for self sacrifice. True love is not caring about yourself anymore, and every action you take is for the bettering of your love. Once again to quote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

True love is an acceptance of all that is, that has been, that will or even will not be.

[____]

@poopingman: So in other words, your stand on relationships is that you treat females like some kind of cheap play toy without giving a damn how they feel?

 

 

 

If you feel like dening that alegation then feel free to prove it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And for the rest of you, I don't know. I'm not one for 'true love' persay since that is ah... kind of bound to both parnters having avoided pre-marital sex which seems to be rather rare nowdays, imo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But general love, yea that's around. Devotion, respect, etc. More so in what you do than how you feel (i sliced that out of half a dozen websites since I couldn't get the wording right - so don't kill me ;p)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's hard to explain :\

[Poopingman]

Its all lust, I can't stress it any more. Unless people suddenly mature at a rapid rate once they get middle-aged, my theory holds. Especially because most people get married in their low to mid twenties. Ever wondered why divorce rates are so high? Duh, people are becoming more and more carefree about relationships. My earlier post drives that fact home even more. When I got older, I expected guys and gals to mature a bit, and it won't just be the guy trying to get a piece, etc .etc. Sadly it seems to have almost become worse, its the same as HS was, except the participants are older. You can think what you want about your own relationships, and hopefully you are lucky enough to have something more than what I have explained.

[Faux]

Its all lust, I can't stress it any more. Unless people suddenly mature at a rapid rate once they get middle-aged, my theory holds. Especially because most people get married in their low to mid twenties. Ever wondered why divorce rates are so high? Duh, people are becoming more and more carefree about relationships. My earlier post drives that fact home even more. When I got older, I expected guys and gals to mature a bit, and it won't just be the guy trying to get a piece, etc .etc. Sadly it seems to have almost become worse, its the same as HS was, except the participants are older. You can think what you want about your own relationships, and hopefully you are lucky enough to have something more than what I have explained.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Um hmmn.. So tell me why my parents are together and they're in their late 30s or when my grandparents were together til they were in their 60s?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And as a fact, lust barely exists in them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's some people (like me) who only lives to have one partner in life and can patiently wait for that significant one. I'm hoping I already found mine, and trust me, I'm not in a relationship because of lust alone.

[Poopingman]

 

Its all lust, I can't stress it any more. Unless people suddenly mature at a rapid rate once they get middle-aged, my theory holds. Especially because most people get married in their low to mid twenties. Ever wondered why divorce rates are so high? Duh, people are becoming more and more carefree about relationships. My earlier post drives that fact home even more. When I got older, I expected guys and gals to mature a bit, and it won't just be the guy trying to get a piece, etc .etc. Sadly it seems to have almost become worse, its the same as HS was, except the participants are older. You can think what you want about your own relationships, and hopefully you are lucky enough to have something more than what I have explained.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Um hmmn.. So tell me why my parents are together and they're in their late 30s or when my grandparents were together til they were in their 60s?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And as a fact, lust barely exists in them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There's some people (like me) who only lives to have one partner in life and can patiently wait for that significant one. I'm hoping I already found mine, and trust me, I'm not in a relationship because of lust alone.

 

 

 

I can't speak for people that lived in generations before us, because it was ALOT different back then. The media, among other factors, have skewed what people are "supposed" to look like, and further spread this corruption. I hope you have found something more, and you seem fairly confident in yourself, which is a good thing. I've decided to play a neutral role as far as the opposite sex goes, and watch from the outside, I'm with you, I'd rather wait for one person than go with the flow and just have fun, because then I would be adding to what I am fighting against. Anyway, best of luck to you.

[kirbybeam]

Poopingman did you even read my post?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, and what is your experience exactly? High School? Trust me, what most consider "love" in high school is exactly what you said, lust.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When you love someone, there isn't any lust involved. You love them for who they are, not because you want sex with them. Now, I know a girl, and she means a lot to me, more than any girl. The thing is, I don't feel for her the same way I do about other girls. For other girls, I feel "oh yeah, I would want to hit that..etc." but with her, it's different. I am not sure how to explain it. It's not that I don't want sex, it's that it isn't important with reguards to her. Just being with her, talking to her, and making her happy is more than enough for me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is that love? I wouldn't know. But when I met her I couldn't stop thinking about her for several days...and I still can't stop. Sometimes I just stop whatever I'm doing and just think about her, it feels good.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You tell me what that is if not love. :?

[Poopingman]

Poopingman did you even read my post?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, and what is your experience exactly? High School? Trust me, what most consider "love" in high school is exactly what you said, lust.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When you love someone, there isn't any lust involved. You love them for who they are, not because you want sex with them. Now, I know a girl, and she means a lot to me, more than any girl. The thing is, I don't feel for her the same way I do about other girls. For other girls, I feel "oh yeah, I would want to hit that..etc." but with her, it's different. I am not sure how to explain it. It's not that I don't want sex, it's that it isn't important with reguards to her. Just being with her, talking to her, and making her happy is more than enough for me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is that love? I wouldn't know. But when I met her I couldn't stop thinking about her for several days...and I still can't stop. Sometimes I just stop whatever I'm doing and just think about her, it feels good.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You tell me what that is if not love. :?

 

 

 

This falls under the category of the last post I responded too. Noone knows for sure, but I think its safe to say there is no such thing as love until you are mature enough to even understand it, high school teeny bopper relationships ARE NOT love.

[pinayavi]

:cry: :cry:

 

 

 

you guys are ruining my post...... i want to know what true love is on your own words not the bible or the dictionary.

[Zippi08]

Hmm, true love for me is when you want the person you love to be happy, and his/her happiness is your happiness. Just being in that person's presence makes you feel really happy. Also, you accept the way he/she is just as he/she is and feel proud to have him/her.

[Scruffy5389]

 

Poopingman did you even read my post?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, and what is your experience exactly? High School? Trust me, what most consider "love" in high school is exactly what you said, lust.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When you love someone, there isn't any lust involved. You love them for who they are, not because you want sex with them. Now, I know a girl, and she means a lot to me, more than any girl. The thing is, I don't feel for her the same way I do about other girls. For other girls, I feel "oh yeah, I would want to hit that..etc." but with her, it's different. I am not sure how to explain it. It's not that I don't want sex, it's that it isn't important with reguards to her. Just being with her, talking to her, and making her happy is more than enough for me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is that love? I wouldn't know. But when I met her I couldn't stop thinking about her for several days...and I still can't stop. Sometimes I just stop whatever I'm doing and just think about her, it feels good.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You tell me what that is if not love. :?

 

 

 

This falls under the category of the last post I responded too. Noone knows for sure, but I think its safe to say there is no such thing as love until you are mature enough to even understand it, high school teeny bopper relationships ARE NOT love.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"The last post you responded to"? Meaning...

I can't speak for people that lived in generations before us, because it was ALOT different back then. The media, among other factors, have skewed what people are "supposed" to look like, and further spread this corruption. I hope you have found something more, and you seem fairly confident in yourself, which is a good thing. I've decided to play a neutral role as far as the opposite sex goes, and watch from the outside, I'm with you, I'd rather wait for one person than go with the flow and just have fun, because then I would be adding to what I am fighting against. Anyway, best of luck to you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, maybe you're saying that kirbybeam's relationship with this girl falls under......what category exactly? The category where they "find something more" than just lust? It sounds like you're admitting that kirbybeam has indeed transcended media-hyped lust. Maybe you're admitting that there is such a thing as love?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And if things were ALOT different in times past, are you saying that there was love once? Doesn't that mean it must still be possible?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not sure what you're trying to say. You seem to be arguin that lust is most common, but then you imply that you can transcend that base feeling. Isn't that the same as love? So you admit that love exists? That's kind of what everyone else was saying, too. Lust is powerful, true love supercedes lust.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...Or maybe I've completely misunderstood you :? Please explain.

[Poopingman]

I'm saying noone knows FOR SURE. However it is logically "impossible" for example, there to be "The ONE" person you are destined to fall in love with. Its one of those things that doesn't make LOGICAL sense, but can't be disproven. I, personally don't believe in love.

[Faux]

:cry: :cry:

 

 

 

you guys are ruining my post...... i want to know what true love is on your own words not the bible or the dictionary.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

rofl, they're not ruining your post, just elaborating their opinions. :)

[kirbybeam]

I'm saying noone knows FOR SURE. However it is logically "impossible" for example, there to be "The ONE" person you are destined to fall in love with. Its one of those things that doesn't make LOGICAL sense, but can't be disproven. I, personally don't believe in love.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Who said anything about one? I don't believe that either. You should get several friends, and it will come to you. Don't look for it, it should come to you.

[pinayavi]

 

can whoever is fighting can you not cozzzzzz yeahhh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hey yup im pilipino

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good to know another one exists here :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yup heheh heyyyyy what`s up :)

[pinayavi]

 

:cry: :cry:

 

 

 

you guys are ruining my post...... i want to know what true love is on your own words not the bible or the dictionary.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

rofl, they're not ruining your post, just elaborating their opinions. :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol true but i`m saying like it might get locked! but yeahhhhhhh

[assassin_696]

You guys are ruining my post....I want to know what true love is in your own words not the bible or the dictionary.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We rarely stay on topic here anyway :wink:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But i think my thoughts are summed up nicely in those two quotes of mine, i didn't have much more to add.

[Faux]

I can't speak for people that lived in generations before us, because it was ALOT different back then. The media, among other factors, have skewed what people are "supposed" to look like, and further spread this corruption. I hope you have found something more, and you seem fairly confident in yourself, which is a good thing. I've decided to play a neutral role as far as the opposite sex goes, and watch from the outside, I'm with you, I'd rather wait for one person than go with the flow and just have fun, because then I would be adding to what I am fighting against. Anyway, best of luck to you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks :wink:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

can whoever is fighting can you not cozzzzzz yeahhh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

hey yup im pilipino

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good to know another one exists here :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yup heheh heyyyyy what`s up :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm good :D can't say much though, your thread is going off topic as it is :P

[pinayavi]

i know coz no one knows what true love is! (lol) freaken` ehhhy`

[Escape5]

There is no way to explain what love it. It is just love. Its there, and you feel it. No words can be used to explain what true love is.