how to make 250m -.-

[aerendil]

what weapon/arrows/bolts should i be using for ranging? rune cbow with broads? msb with ruen arrows, karils xbow?

[xpx]

what weapon/arrows/bolts should i be using for ranging? rune cbow with broads? msb with ruen arrows, karils xbow?

runite bolts with runite crossbow.

[green9090]

I wouldn't bother with anything better than broad bolts, the cannon does most of the work.

 

Use void with deflector and arma top and leave auto retaliate on. Keep your cannon loaded. Keep banking bones.

 

You should easily get 1.7m+ per hour.

 

Also, as many others have said, learn to flip. Put an offer in for something like a barrows set or a sara sword or whatever you want to flip, see what it buys for. Drop that down 3-5% and leave an offer in for it. Later, sell it back for a little above what you bought the first one for. Do this all the time. Should net you a good profit for doing basically nothing once you get the hang of it.

[xpx]

I wouldn't bother with anything better than broad bolts, the cannon does most of the work.

 

Likely because you aren't smart enough to do so. I've actually tested this, have you?

[green9090]

I'm not saying it's 100% the most efficient ever to use broad bolts, I'm saying it's more afkable if you don't have to worry about picking up all your bolts, and the profit difference will be minimal compared to rune bolts. I'd be really surprised if the difference is more than 80kgp/hour or so, if that, and the difference will only get smaller as frost bone prices drop. I'm not fussed about that kind of change, personally.

[xpx]

I'm not saying it's 100% the most efficient ever to use broad bolts, I'm saying it's more afkable if you don't have to worry about picking up all your bolts, and the profit difference will be minimal compared to rune bolts. I'd be really surprised if the difference is more than 80kgp/hour or so, if that, and the difference will only get smaller as frost bone prices drop. I'm not fussed about that kind of change, personally.

You are just good at giving bad advice, i guess. Using runite bolts doesn't mean that you'd pick up those bolts, accumulator already covers 75% of the picking, and until recently(with elite void update) it was better to use SW cape with broad bolts to save prayer potions and leave all the bolts on the floor. The thing you are forgetting, most likely, is that each frost dragon kill is worth around 23k, meaning that the minimal difference in the cost of bolts(140k vs 80k) is more than paid off by the number of extra kills. But ofcource, you wouldn't know this- you have not tested this and are just blowing smoke.

[green9090]

Wouldn't the elite void update only make accumulator>SW cape if you were actually using a void top rather than Arma top with deflector? I'd think the SW cape is still the superior option, meaning broads are still also superior.

[xpx]

Wouldn't the elite void update only make accumulator>SW cape if you were actually using a void top rather than Arma top with deflector? I'd think the SW cape is still the superior option, meaning broads are still also superior.

Broad bolts aren't certainly the superior option. The difference in KPH between the two methods is around 6.6, meaning the difference in profit is around 150k, more than runite bolt cost to use an hour. Not to mention the loss of xp.

[green9090]

But then we're back to the pain in the ass of collecting bolts vs. the minimal extra profit. I'm sticking with being lazy and earning a tiny bit less-- triply so if, as in the case of the OP, I have debilitating lag making every click painful.

 

And really, in what circumstance are you going to be ranging and not lazy? I only range if I'm watching a movie at the same time; otherwise melee is dramatically better.

[xpx]

But then we're back to the pain in the ass of collecting bolts vs. the minimal extra profit. I'm sticking with being lazy and earning a tiny bit less-- triply so if, as in the case of the OP, I have debilitating lag making every click painful.

 

And really, in what circumstance are you going to be ranging and not lazy? I only range if I'm watching a movie at the same time; otherwise melee is dramatically better.

What the hell are you talking about now? Collecting bolts? there is no collecting bolts for any case. Just face it, you are/were wrong and gave advice you actually had no idea about.

[green9090]

Hold on, I'm confused. Are you trying to tell me that it's better to use an accumulator than a SW cape, or that it's worth it to use rune bolts and then leave them all on the ground?

 

Both options sound insane; even if you are right I'm not sure it's reasonable to expect everyone else in Runescape to implicitly know these things.

 

Also: u mad?

[xpx]

No, i'm smart and you are theoretizing on something you have no idea about.

 

With runite bolts, you have no option but to use accumulator, which gets back around 75% bolts, without picking up, you'd lose around 200 bolts.

 

With broad bolts, you have the option of using either accumulator or sw cape, with accumulator, the loss is around 200 bolts, with sw cape, the loss is 800 bolts, either way, you'd be losing money with broad bolts.

 

I have no idea why you'd try to argue with me on this subject, after all, i've likely killed much, much more frost dragons and done many, many more tests than you have on this subject.

[green9090]

Okay, so if I'm to take you at your word on your tests, you make a TINY, TINY better profit on rune bolts and accumulator. Apparently.

 

Good for you. Sorry that my advice was slightly less optimal than yours; clearly your flaming was justified. Thanks to your valiant efforts, OP will get an extra handful of change every frost dragon trip.

[SoulWars]

I highly suggest you either buy a new PC or improve your internet connection lol, why play RuneScape if you can't do anything? ^_^

 

Peace

[xpx]

It's not really about your advice being wrong, it's about you not admitting to it even though your knowledge was only based on theory, not actual testing. I understand you not knowing about everything, but as i'm more or less a specialist on frost dragons, i have no idea why you'd be in doubt of my knowledge.

[green9090]

I'm not a noob at frost dragons either, and I was throwing my two cents in. There was no need to go

Likely because you aren't smart enough to do so. I've actually tested this, have you?

Which is just a [bleep]y thing to say and not conducive to having a discussion. A simple explanation of your test results would have shut me up rather than acting like you're too good to explain how you come to your conclusions, forcing us through a back and forth before you finally explain what the hell you're on about.

 

Testing doesn't really help your credibility if you just act like you know everything and anybody who wants to have a look at your data is a peon.

[xpx]

I posted the data a long time ago, not my problem you haven't read it. I don't think my reply was actually offensive, rather it was a fair reply for you second guessing me(which is a stupid thing to do on this particular subject).

 

And really, should I really tell everyone posting stupid advice why their advice is stupid, rather than just telling them they are wrong? Have you heard of the saying: ''One idiot can ask more questions than a hundred smart people can answer.'' I think it is fair for me, one of the most knowledgeable people on this particular subject on these forums, to give advice on the subject and not to be second guessed. You, on the other hand, should think before posting something, otherwise you are bound to be flamed.

[green9090]

Hate to break it to you, but I don't think you're nearly as famous as you seem to think you are. This is the first I've heard of you being a frost dragon expert.

[xpx]

Hate to break it to you, but I don't think you're nearly as famous as you seem to think you are. This is the first I've heard of you being a frost dragon expert.

Have i claimed to be famous? not really, but it's your problem to be arguing with me, not mine.

 

And, for your information, i've had a LOAD of people recognize my name due to the guide while dungeoneering, most of them people who don't post on these forums. How ironic is it that your knowledge isn't top notch, and you haven't read my guide?

[MstrMonopoly]

Hate to break it to you, but I don't think you're nearly as famous as you seem to think you are. This is the first I've heard of you being a frost dragon expert.

Have i claimed to be famous? not really, but it's your problem to be arguing with me, not mine.

 

And, for your information, i've had a LOAD of people recognize my name due to the guide while dungeoneering, most of them people who don't post on these forums. How ironic is it that your knowledge isn't top notch, and you haven't read my guide?

 

Yeah, his guide is probably one of the best, if not the best on the web.

[aerendil]

calm down, I didn't ask for a flame war :D, I think ill go with broads tbh.

[Arthu]

calm down, I didn't ask for a flame war :D, I think ill go with broads tbh.

 

I agree, calming down would definately help.

 

I am finding one more good side on broads vs rune bolts - broad bolts require much less money put in the bolts in the preparation phase. Especially if you use broads with accumulator. That might be a helpful thing for him, considering OP probably doesn't have as much money as xpx.

 

I'd go with rune bolts, though, but I can agree some people rather go with the easiness of broads. It's not that big of a sin.

[xpx]

calm down, I didn't ask for a flame war :D, I think ill go with broads tbh.

 

I agree, calming down would definately help.

 

I am finding one more good side on broads vs rune bolts - broad bolts require much less money put in the bolts in the preparation phase. Especially if you use broads with accumulator. That might be a helpful thing for him, considering OP probably doesn't have as much money as xpx.

 

I'd go with rune bolts, though, but I can agree some people rather go with the easiness of broads. It's not that big of a sin.

He needs 250m for an ELY and doesn't have ~10m? kk, you are getting off without a snarling flame, but that was a bad comment.

 

In any case, as he has alot of lag, runite bolts will be further ahead of broads than the numbers from my tests because he can't lure properly, causing the primary range weapon to have a larger impact on the overall damage.

[aerendil]

i can lure alright, and have 33m cash to spare, not sellign any of my loot till end of month, big drops tab ftw :)

[aerendil]

@ soul wars, I have a 2grand macintosh comp, and very good net.

Problem is where i live.. we dont ahve direct veiw to the radio tower that sends out internet signal, which is why my net failz