Apple no longer supports Java...

[essiw]

To be ontopic,

It has been announced that mac os Lion (10.7) will not have java implemented in their systems but you can still download it from java themselves.

[Ember]

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[Laura]

Java, intrinsically, is allowed to read and write what it pleases under certain conditions. However, there is a clear red warning indicating possible dangers. "Self-signed root certificate" really says it all. The user let the program run on their computer - not a virus.

 

And here's where the root of the problem becomes painfully obvious: if users have sufficient privileges to compromise a system's security and (whether from ignorance or apathy) do not make due effort to maintain system integrity, trouble ensues.

On the flip side, if those sort of privileges were revoked, Apple would be further criticized for maintaining a closed OS. Not even the most secure OS can defend against its users (not referring to any in particular). The day that Apple shuts down these web standards in the name of "user security" is the day that I switch back to Windows. With any luck, this malicious trojan will be added to Snow Leopard's anti-malware list with the next security update.

[Ember]

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[obfuscator]

It's as much about using social engineering to compromise machines as it is about OS vulnerabilities or whatever else.. A computer as only as safe as the person owning it.

[Laura]

And here's where the root of the problem becomes painfully obvious: if users have sufficient privileges to compromise a system's security and (whether from ignorance or apathy) do not make due effort to maintain system integrity, trouble ensues.

On the flip side, if those sort of privileges were revoked, Apple would be further criticized for maintaining a closed OS. Not even the most secure OS can defend against its users (not referring to any in particular). The day that Apple shuts down these web standards in the name of "user security" is the day that I switch back to Windows. With any luck, this malicious trojan will be added to Snow Leopard's anti-malware list with the next security update.

For clarity: my post was not penned with any specific operating system in mind, but was intended as a general comment on computer security.

I do not consider removal of meaningful access to one's own computer acceptable, even done in the name of security, an acceptable practice.

Ah, forgive me then. I agree with such sentiments.