Samaster Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 So here is my thinking at the moment... I have extremes/overloads/99 herb I will be getting 99 prayer soon, so that will be ss/turm/berserker and I am thinking that, as on all of my slayer tasks I'm going to use extremes/turm/ss I am going to need a lot of prayer potions. I am thinking of getting sgs for the small prayer replenishment so in the long run It should be worth it... Will it? I am going to camp wyverns for a bit until i have around 200-250 bones banked for super prayers, and I am farming ranarrs and permanently buying small amounts of snape grass from the ge at lowest price so I will have a nice amount of p pots. My main question for all you geniuses (Quyneax =D) is: If I have enough cash, after bandos, fury, claws, zs, karils, whip, cannon, cballs, food, pouches, tele's etc... would it be feasible to get my sgs back? P.s. please nothing about "EEE is better than sgs" because im using it for prayer.. not LP i have ss for that. cheers =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Well since you ask, no it wouldn't. You could see how the ancient mace is though. Sgs only replenishes a quarter of a tenth of what you hit, the mace all (but uses twice the spec energy and hits a lot lower of course). I mention the mace because it's cheap, so it won't hurt your cashpile. I don't think it's particulary good or anything. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Yeah sgs only gives 5 prayer points for 200 damage so not worth it at all purely looking at the prayer factor since at the ver best your looking at 20 prayer points. Sgs prayer points is a useful bonus to the healing; but on its own its not really a good reason to buy it. Especially when you look at the Ancient Mace. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedman Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Nope, the amount of money you save by using less prayer points is so small, that it's not worth it. You are better off using claws as a spec weapon for more DPS. Moreover, super prayer pots are not worth it either. There are no slayer tasks where inventory will be such an issue, that you need super prayer pots to be able to do the entire task in one go. Even dark beasts can be done in one go with a war tortoise. They are *really* tiresome to make (takes like one hour to grind less than 200 wyvern bones iirc), so should only be used when you really really need them. Lastly, I see you are 99 herblore, so I don't really get why you are making your own prayer pots? It's faster AND cheaper to just buy them in the GE? If you enjoying DIY'ing, go on I guess, but I'm telling you it's not the fastest way to achieve things. A Guide to Chinning in Ape atoll: up to 325kxp/h! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samaster Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 Firstly thank you for all of your advice. :D I will only get a gs for fun, sgs because i like the look of it, ags for PC or something else... not sure claws beats it every time. Secondly: ...Lastly, I see you are 99 herblore, so I don't really get why you are making your own prayer pots? It's faster AND cheaper to just buy them in the GE? If you enjoying DIY'ing, go on I guess, but I'm telling you it's not the fastest way to achieve things. I do this because a year or so ago I used to "bulk-buy" pray potions, but there came a time where I had run out and merch clans had dominated the pray pot market and you could not get anything to do with them for love nor money, ranarrs, seeds... anything. So I went around 2 weeks without being able to get any thus having to resort to barrows with no p pots. With that I had my first big death... I lost around 50-60m in items and runes because dharok is a nutta. And from that day on I vowed to always have supplied ready to make 10 or more p pots and I lived happily ever after... sorry about the ending I thought it sounded better than it does. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifflin Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Firstly thank you for all of your advice. :D I will only get a gs for fun, sgs because i like the look of it, ags for PC or something else... not sure claws beats it every time. Claws has a better spec. That is a fact, not an opinion. If you want I can find the math to back it up for you. Also, the SGS is not worth it, especially not for prayer restoration. You save more prayer by using claws to get faster kills. Everyone here has told you that SGS is not worth it, there isn't a point in posting in H&A if you've made your mind up already. PM me in game anytime It's a lot easier then that for an idiot to sound smart on the internet. That's exactly what you're doing right now... just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samaster Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 Firstly thank you for all of your advice. :D I will only get a gs for fun, sgs because i like the look of it, ags for PC or something else... not sure claws beats it every time. Claws has a better spec. That is a fact, not an opinion. If you want I can find the math to back it up for you. Also, the SGS is not worth it, especially not for prayer restoration. You save more prayer by using claws to get faster kills. Everyone here has told you that SGS is not worth it, there isn't a point in posting in H&A if you've made your mind up already. WOW thanks for the telling off... and this sentence was supposed to read... ... ags for PC or something else... not sure claws beats it every time. "...ags for PC or something else, not sure... claws beats it every time." that was my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifflin Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 It's more that I want to make the point that it's a bit rude to post here and have people give up their time to answer your question when you already seem to have had your mind made up about using an SGS. Do you want for me to prove to you how inefficient it is? I can do the math. PM me in game anytime It's a lot easier then that for an idiot to sound smart on the internet. That's exactly what you're doing right now... just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmr185 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 And from that day on I vowed to always have supplied ready to make 10 or more p pots and I lived happily ever after... I'm not criticizing you for this, but I'm trying to understand your thinking. How does having the ingredients for 10 prayer pots "ready to make" benefit you over just having the actual prayer pots in your bank? Kinda seems like a little bit of mental gymnastics to think that the unmade pots are a special reserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samaster Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 Thanks for the offer, but I was actually asking if after I had all my gear would it still be worth the purchase and due to all the answers I have been given I will not be buying it for the use I intended it to be used for. However I may still get it at a later date as a leasure item if I have the cash to spare. I have taken into account all of the information given that is why I am no longer going to go out of my way to buy it. This also I did not make clear and again I am sorry. I will outline my plan involving a sgs to avoid any more confusion. - Get 99 prayer - Got full bandos- Got fury- Got dfs for wyverns - Got ranarr seeds/snape grass- Get food and pouches - Get cannon and cballs - Get claws- Get SOL/Arcane/Ahrims/runes for fire surge.- Get Chaotic maul - Get karils- Get enough charms for 90+ summoning or as many as I can get with my attention span- Get sgs for fun. So its fairly low down on my list. And from that day on I vowed to always have supplied ready to make 10 or more p pots and I lived happily ever after... I'm not criticizing you for this, but I'm trying to understand your thinking. How does having the ingredients for 10 prayer pots "ready to make" benefit you over just having the actual prayer pots in your bank? Kinda seems like a little bit of mental gymnastics to think that the unmade pots are a special reserve. This is just the point where I do another herb run, and make 10 more so that I'm never without pray potions. Its and odd method I know but it makes my herb tab look nice lol Thanks for taking the time to help me everyone. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noxx Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Well i see that you're going to try and get charms for 90+ Summoning? In this case, SGS might be a decent investement but only if you even plan on doing Rock Lobsters. With the SGS spec, you will be able to Camp there for days without having to bank. This is like the only good use a SGS has these days (note that i said good, not great). Otherwise SGS is pretty much useless.I know you did not ask for comment on the following, but Arcane and DFS? Why buy a ~20m item (DFS) for 1 task which you probably only get once every 15 tasks or so? Also why buy an Arcane for fire surge? You will end up using it maybe 3 or 4 times a week (if that). Not trying to tell you how to spend your dosh, just advising you to think clearly before buying a semi-worthless item you might end up never using or not using as much as you though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samaster Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 Well i see that you're going to try and get charms for 90+ Summoning? In this case, SGS might be a decent investement but only if you even plan on doing Rock Lobsters. With the SGS spec, you will be able to Camp there for days without having to bank. This is like the only good use a SGS has these days (note that i said good, not great). Otherwise SGS is pretty much useless.I know you did not ask for comment on the following, but Arcane and DFS? Why buy a ~20m item (DFS) for 1 task which you probably only get once every 15 tasks or so? Also why buy an Arcane for fire surge? You will end up using it maybe 3 or 4 times a week (if that). Not trying to tell you how to spend your dosh, just advising you to think clearly before buying a semi-worthless item you might end up never using or not using as much as you though. I like the dfs for aesthetic reasons but i will sell after i have my desired amount of wyvern bones because i have them blocked from my tasks so i dont ever need to go there again. But Arcane because i'm going to be training a bit of defence with magic because i havnt really used it since becoming 99 and thought it would be fun. I also forgot to say that i will get arcane steam too for that. I will also probs go to SW for a bit of clan warfare and i like to "look the part" if you know what i mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 If you want to look the part, sell all your gear (besides arcane, perhaps) and try to get some Virtus (w/ chaotic staff, arcstream, farseer kite if you had to sell arcane), then overload the entire game. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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