Th e Doctor Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Everyone knows that the dungeoneering law and nature rune staves are worthless because the amount of money you save from nature or law runes does not out weigh the cost in elemental runes you need as a result of not having the respective elemental staff. There are two ways I've thought of to fix this. The first being ideal, the second being an ok improvement. Solution #1.Have each staff supply infinite elemental runes only when casting a spell that requires a nature/law rune (obviously corresponding to the staff equipped). Example. I have a nature rune staff equipped. I can cast high alchemy with no fire runes for as many charges as I have placed nature runes inside the staff + any that are saved from the special effect. However after 20 high alchs i get bored so I pull out a pile of bones from my bank and cast bones to bananas for a little cash. The staff covered the fire runes as well as the earth/water runes. Then I pull out my blood runes and go to fire surge black demons and cry because the staff does not cover elemental runes not used for nature rune spells The demons kill me and I ragequite this game. This would simplify teleporting a lot with the law staff as well as making life easier for superheating/alching/bones to peaches. Solution #2.Make the law staff also supply infinite air runes and the nature rune staff provide infinite fire runes. I don't believe the second solution needs much explaining. Please leave me some feedback. Cheers! Armadyl Drops : 4 Hilts; 3 Chestplates; 2 Chainskirts; 1 Helmet; 1 Buckler; 2 Shard 1; 2 Shard 2; 1 Shard 3Nex : 1 Zaryte BowKalphite King : 1 Drygore Rapier ; 1 Drygore Longsword : 1 Drygore Offhand Rapier : 1 Drygore Offhand Longsword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Never considered it before, but that does sound like a good solution, and not an entirely unreasonable one. I prefer solution 2. To balance it, maybe you need a certain runecrafting level to charge the staves (so basically upgrade it from its current state). I mean...they're not exactly the most expensive pieces of dungeoneering equipment. Both staves do have a use though; they're the strongest F2P staves :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I like 1, law staves as free teleports ftw! Not unbalanced for the law staff but I think entangle w/o runes may be a shade to powerful. Then again entangle sucks as it is. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacTise69 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Hmmm...I didn't think about entangle. Perhaps change #1 so it explicitly says that no combat spells work with the inf elemental effect? Trolling by giving good advice since April 2011. The Blog - Currently Cleaning Herbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacTise69 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Never considered it before, but that does sound like a good solution, and not an entirely unreasonable one. I prefer solution 2. To balance it, maybe you need a certain runecrafting level to charge the staves (so basically upgrade it from its current state). I mean...they're not exactly the most expensive pieces of dungeoneering equipment. Both staves do have a use though; they're the strongest F2P staves :P I thought the gravite (however the heck that's spelled) was the strongest...? Trolling by giving good advice since April 2011. The Blog - Currently Cleaning Herbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alistair Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 You're right; I heard it somewhere and it turns out it's the strongest staff in terms of melee stats or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obtaurian Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Then I pull out my blood runes and go to fire surge black demons and cry because the staff does not cover elemental runes not used for nature rune spells The demons kill me and I ragequite this game. I don't have an opinion in regards to your suggestion, but I just wanted to say that I lol'd when I read this. To put it bluntly, [bleep] off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will H Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 I think that #1's a great solution, Entangle and all. After all, you can eliminate the elemental rune cost for that spell with a mud staff. #1 also encourages much more emergent gameplay, especially with new spells in the future. ~ W ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th e Doctor Posted February 15, 2011 Author Share Posted February 15, 2011 I think that #1's a great solution, Entangle and all. After all, you can eliminate the elemental rune cost for that spell with a mud staff. #1 also encourages much more emergent gameplay, especially with new spells in the future. Thanks! Then I pull out my blood runes and go to fire surge black demons and cry because the staff does not cover elemental runes not used for nature rune spells The demons kill me and I ragequite this game. I don't have an opinion in regards to your suggestion, but I just wanted to say that I lol'd when I read this. I try to make things interesting to read, glad someone appreciated it! Armadyl Drops : 4 Hilts; 3 Chestplates; 2 Chainskirts; 1 Helmet; 1 Buckler; 2 Shard 1; 2 Shard 2; 1 Shard 3Nex : 1 Zaryte BowKalphite King : 1 Drygore Rapier ; 1 Drygore Longsword : 1 Drygore Offhand Rapier : 1 Drygore Offhand Longsword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amitoz Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 I think that #1's a great solution, Entangle and all. After all, you can eliminate the elemental rune cost for that spell with a mud staff. #1 also encourages much more emergent gameplay, especially with new spells in the future.Since when does Jagex condone emergent gameplay? Come to my Clan chat (I'm there if I'm online) if you wish to borrow a Green H'ween mask, Blue H'ween Mask, Red H'ween Mask, or Santa for a reasonable price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saradomin_Mage Posted March 3, 2011 Share Posted March 3, 2011 Since they came up with Faruq's Tools for Games, silly. In real life MMO you don't get 99 smithing by making endless bronze daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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