lolicon right or wrong

[Rainy_Day]

It sexualizes children, and is perverted. I don't condone it, and question why any 'normal' adult would want to look at the pictures. Pretty sure it's illegal in the UK anyway, and rightfully so.

[H2PM]

[hide]Wikipedia: "Lolicon (ロリコン?), also romanised as rorikon,[1] is a Japanese portmanteau of the phrase "Lolita complex".[2][3] In Japan, the term describes an attraction to underage girls,[4] or an individual with such an attraction.[5][6] It is also commonly used when referring to lolicon manga or lolicon anime, a subset of manga and anime wherein childlike female characters are often depicted in an erotic manner."[/hide]

[The Observer]

I personally don't see the appeal, but obviously with a race as culturally diversified as humans there's going to be people with different ideals and preferences. Although I suppose it is a better alternative to actual child pornography, the argument stands whether or not it encourages pedophiles to move onto the 'actual' thing. Now ignoring this endless rebuttle, posting them on the forums is a tricky subject. I'm sure if it's not attempted to be erotic in anyway and are just regular pictures then it should be fine, just like any other picture that you can post on these boards, but I'm sure 'lolicon' isn't meant to be like that judging by the definition of it? And yes, obviously if it's naked it'll be removed, 'lolicon' or not.

[thewonderingman]

It sexualizes children, and is perverted. I don't condone it, and question why any 'normal' adult would want to look at the pictures. Pretty sure it's illegal in the UK anyway, and rightfully so.

i would like to apologize for the last few posts.i was not present

when they where posted. And would like to say sorry . For the stuff

my brother said.

[The Dark Lord]

I think that [cabbage] is pretty creepy, to be honest.

 

General discussion about the morality of it should be okay (and we had a pretty successful thread in Off-Topic a few weeks ago). But bringing personal experience and preferences into it is where things get complicated (i.e. saying "I like/look at lolicon"). So let's please try to stay away from that :)

 

Are you referring to my thread?

[Rainy_Day]

It sexualizes children, and is perverted. I don't condone it, and question why any 'normal' adult would want to look at the pictures. Pretty sure it's illegal in the UK anyway, and rightfully so.

i strongly disagree with you and would say a lot more except when i did that they booted my reply.

so i'll say this there images nothing more. they are made from ink or pixels so whats your prob.

you don't have to like them i personally think they are fine. i also think you are a pathetic excuse for a man sorry and yes that was supposed to offend you. if your a chick i guess you have the right to hate it.

but in all seriousness give it a shot it ain't as bad as you think or maybe it is haven't seen that many too bussy watching stuff like full metal alchemist and dragonball z. so maybe i ain't the best person to chat you up about it.

here are the pros and the cons as far as i'm concerned.

2. they may have an influence on pedos that make them actually try and rape kids. thats it for the bad.

 

1. the serve as an outlet for pedos alowing them to focus on that instead of actual school.

2. they are entertaining.

3. they are proven to make me laugh.

4. it is within the law.

5. it does not involve any real children.

6. it is impossible for it to creat pedo files since pedophelia is a mental disorder.

7. they are cartoons.

i mean for peats sakle they are cartoons nothing more. they can neither be wrong nor right and it is impossible to figure out if they are moraly correct since every one of us has a diffrent opinion on what is moraly correct

 

Okay, as a man who enforces the law in England and has had his run ins with situations where children have been inappropriately touched, and having a friend's young sister inappropriately touched, I take a strong view against such material, especially material that is against the law.

 

2. they may have an influence on pedos that make them actually try and rape kids. thats it for the bad.

Key point, it's my main reason for disagreeing with the production/distribution of such imagery. People can be opportunistic, and if they get bored of the images and turn to real images, this will only end up with real children being affected. Which is disgusting.

 

1. the serve as an outlet for pedos alowing them to focus on that instead of actual school.

See the above point.

2. they are entertaining.

Entertaining for people who like cartoon nude children, I guess.

3. they are proven to make me laugh.

If cartoon naked children make you laugh, sure.

4. it is within the law.

See above, not over here it isn't.

5. it does not involve any real children.

See above. It can drive someone to involve real children.

6. it is impossible for it to creat pedo files since pedophelia is a mental disorder.

See above.

7. they are cartoons.

Have an award.

 

Tbh, not sure if troll. & what H2PM said.

 

Also, if you are here asking our views on whether it is right or wrong, quite frankly, how dare you get funny at somebody who takes a stance against it. Be prepared for many people with such a view. :thumbup:

[The Dark Lord]

Would you arrest wonderingman, Rainy_Day, if you saw him in real life and you were a lawman?

[Rainy_Day]

Would you arrest wonderingman, Rainy_Day, if you saw him in real life and you were a lawman?

I'm far to lowly for that :( But it would gain the interest of specific teams.

[Racheya]

What I put forward is that not all lolicons are paedophiles and not all paedophiles are lolicons. They're rather different things and I've never seen any real proof that lolicon images do lead to actual paedophilic crimes.

[Napalm]

...the argument stands whether or not it encourages pedophiles to move onto the 'actual' thing.

 

Does watching incest porn make you want to go out and [bleep] your sister? Does playing shooter videogame turn you into a soldier that could talke a life? The answer is: No.

 

Many people are attracted to children (among other things), and yet, they are not pedophiles, for the simple reason that they understand that doing so would be socially frowned upon. It's the same than when you get really pissed off with someone and you think about harming them, but yet you don't. You understand that it's just imagination, and leave it there.

 

BUT IF the person actually crossed the line and went on to hook up with a little girl, then the problem is on the person, who could not properly understand the consecuences of his actions, rather on the porn he watched.

[Nadril]

I agree with napalm but this isn't something I really want to "defend".

[foursideking]

In a way, animated sexualization is actually safer than the real thing. I mean, what's worse: 12 million pedos having sex with a kid each day, or 12 million pedos 'spanking the coon' each day. Pictures/simulations (ie: video games) will always be safer than the real thing, and sure, some people may take it the extra mile and go out and do the real thing, but unless everyone loses all sexualization/arousal, this is always going to happen.

[thewonderingman]

Would you arrest wonderingman, Rainy_Day, if you saw him in real life and you were a lawman?

I'm far to lowly for that :( But it would gain the interest of specific teams.

you are too kind bro.

i would like too apologize again for what my brother said. he is a pest but what can i do ehh.

[Nadril]

Would you arrest wonderingman, Rainy_Day, if you saw him in real life and you were a lawman?

I'm far to lowly for that :( But it would gain the interest of specific teams.

you are too kind bro.

i would like too apologize again for what my brother said. he is a pest but what can i do ehh.

 

hahaha.

 

You really are using the "my brother posted" excuse?

[The Dark Lord]

Would you arrest wonderingman, Rainy_Day, if you saw him in real life and you were a lawman?

I'm far to lowly for that :( But it would gain the interest of specific teams.

you are too kind bro.

i would like too apologize again for what my brother said. he is a pest but what can i do ehh.

 

We all know you're a pedo. It's okay. We won't judge you.

 

EDIT: Try not to [bleep] him.

[thewonderingman]

Would you arrest wonderingman, Rainy_Day, if you saw him in real life and you were a lawman?

I'm far to lowly for that :( But it would gain the interest of specific teams.

you are too kind bro.

i would like too apologize again for what my brother said. he is a pest but what can i do ehh.

 

We all know you're a pedo. It's okay. We won't judge you.

 

EDIT: Try not to [bleep] him.

aaawww why are you so mean to me. i am not a pedophille i am a bit stranger than that. (in my own opinion there are things stranger than a pedo.)

i don't like kids honestly. i actually find kids to be rather annoying and bothersome. by the way your reply made me laugh even though i think you were seroius about me being a pedo. thanks for the laugh i needed that today. i do like lolicon/shotacon movies and such but that doesn't mean i'm a pedo. i've never harbored a single thought about doing it to real children. i think i might be fighting it to hard maybe i am one pretty sure i'm not though. well whateeer you think after reading this thanks for not judging me. also rainny day since you've worked cases i gues with pedosdoes the kid ever recover from stuff like that. i mean being fiddled with and all that.

[thewonderingman]

Would you arrest wonderingman, Rainy_Day, if you saw him in real life and you were a lawman?

I'm far to lowly for that :( But it would gain the interest of specific teams.

you are too kind bro.

i would like too apologize again for what my brother said. he is a pest but what can i do ehh.

 

hahaha.

 

You really are using the "my brother posted" excuse?

but it is true he is a pest and he chose to mess around with me on the worst subject possible. now i'm a pedophile and i don't wanna stay one i'm strange enough as it is.

here is what happend i never logged off so wheni got on it and was reviewing what everybody had said. said i decided i wouldn't say anything to rainy as to stay away from trecherous territory. so i pulled up animeready.com and was watching full metal panic episode ten. i went to the bathroom and was in there for a while i came out sat back down and continued to watch it my brother asked me if he could do something on the computer reall quik so i let him i went and played black op zombies for the rest of the day. he had like six hours to post whatever bs he wanted. i didn't get on untill the next day so i didn't know about it untill yesterday when i got on.believe me if you will or don't either way thats what happend.

[The Dark Lord]

now i'm a pedophile

 

QFT.

 

Also, you just contradicted yourself. In one post, you admit to liking lolicon/shota, and in the next post, you still claim your bro posted this thread. :v

 

 

EDIT:

 

This thread wins the

 

 

Also, since you like shota, that also makes you gay. I'm pretty sure that's a crime in Texas.

[Dupin]

All that hate, and coming from a guy with a cartoon girl as his avatar. The world is full of contradictions.

[Dizzle229]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k4iZqbDsMs

[The Dark Lord]

The world is full of contradictions.

 

I'm Scotch-Korean.

 

Also, pedophilia is no laughing matter. I know people that have been abused by this scum, and it's horrible.

 

And another thing: I have no problem with homosexuals whatsoever. I'm just stating that it's probably illegal in Texas to be gay. At least it's illegal in Iran.

[sephiroth_king]

The world is full of contradictions.

 

I'm Scotch-Korean.

 

Also, pedophilia is no laughing matter. I know people that have been abused by this scum, and it's horrible.

 

And another thing: I have no problem with homosexuals whatsoever. I'm just stating that it's probably illegal in Texas to be gay. At least it's illegal in Iran.

 

There's a distinction between being a pedophile and someone who abuses children. Just wanted to make that distinction. But yeah, my nieces were abused by their father, but he's in jail and is most likely dead.

[Dupin]

Also, pedophilia is no laughing matter. I know people that have been abused by this scum, and it's horrible.

 

 

And another thing: I have no problem with homosexuals whatsoever. I'm just stating that it's probably illegal in Texas to be gay. At least it's illegal in Iran.

... (link)

[thewonderingman]

now i'm a pedophile

 

QFT.

 

Also, you just contradicted yourself. In one post, you admit to liking lolicon/shota, and in the next post, you still claim your bro posted this thread. :v

 

 

EDIT:

 

This thread wins the

 

 

Also, since you like shota, that also makes you gay. I'm pretty sure that's a crime in Texas.

I didn't meen the thread he went crazy on rainy day i posted the

thread he posted some disrespectful crap about rainy day

and about the shota i don't watch the gay version.

i watch the incest version wich is usualy sister and brother or mom

and son. But occasionally they mix together. Also what i ment buy.

now i'm a pedo is that do to what. My brother said everyone now thinks i' pedo.

[Nadril]

but it is true he is a pest and he chose to mess around with me on the worst subject possible. now i'm a pedophile and i don't wanna stay one i'm strange enough as it is.

here is what happend i never logged off so wheni got on it and was reviewing what everybody had said. said i decided i wouldn't say anything to rainy as to stay away from trecherous territory. so i pulled up animeready.com and was watching full metal panic episode ten. i went to the bathroom and was in there for a while i came out sat back down and continued to watch it my brother asked me if he could do something on the computer reall quik so i let him i went and played black op zombies for the rest of the day. he had like six hours to post whatever bs he wanted. i didn't get on untill the next day so i didn't know about it untill yesterday when i got on.believe me if you will or don't either way thats what happend.

 

Seriously just man up and accept responsibility. It wasn't your brother that posted. Writing up some [cabbage] story doesn't make you any less of a pedophile.