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hey is it okay to like some things that have lolicon/shotacon in them?

i was just wondering beccause some off the stuff ain't that bad. i mean take a look at full metal panic it ain't bad but it is listed as lolicon so is it realy that bad.

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Not quite my thing, but it doesn't hurt anyone. Don't see anything wrong with it.

 

Also, the term lolicon refers to the sexualization of kid characters. If it's not sexualized, it's not lolicon. I don't know if that's the case with Full Metal Panic.


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Lolicon, ah, the japanese word for 'pedofile's dream'. If you like it purely for the storyline/plot development, then it's ok. If you like it purely for the nudity, then you have a problem...


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Lolicon, ah, the japanese word for 'pedofile's dream'. If you like it purely for the storyline/plot development, then it's ok. If you like it purely for the nudity, then you have a problem...

yeah i like them for the there parts in the story not for the nudity though i am not really bothered by it.

i just think they seem to lighten the mood of most anime and they add comedy relief so it's not really a bad thing in my opinion.

by the way a pedos dream is probably actualy having sex with a little girl/boy not watching others do it.

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Not quite my thing, but it doesn't hurt anyone. Don't see anything wrong with it.

 

Also, the term lolicon refers to the sexualization of kid characters. If it's not sexualized, it's not lolicon. I don't know if that's the case with Full Metal Panic.

yeah you'r right about ful metal panic not a good example. love love is a better one because it does have partial nudity. but if you think about it lolicon is in almost al anime and manga it makes up sixty percent of al anime based things. so if they ban it will they just take out the porn (which by the way not very good i tried to watch one and twenty minutes in felt like pucking then again that was bondage which in itself is sick.) or will they ban everything that has lolicon content in it.

and yes i know what lolicon stands for. i bean googling everything there is about it and aparently japan and china along whith some of america thinks it is perfectly fine to display children in erotic positions and clothing.

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well what do you guys think is some lolicon apropriate or is it all trash. i mean i know someone who likes everything lolicon and i mean everything. but he married a chick fifteen years his senior so is he a pedo or just perverted to the max.

i am also asking about shotacon so if you have an opinion on that go ahead and say it.

mine are along theses lines if it is a kid over 11 then he is probably enjoying haveing a girl help him get off.

but if he is under ten then it is wrong. by the way i hit puberty at age eight so iwas into girls at age eight so i'm bacing my opinion that most guys hit it about that age.

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Lolicon, ah, the japanese word for 'pedofile's dream'. If you like it purely for the storyline/plot development, then it's ok. If you like it purely for the nudity, then you have a problem...

I've always thought this question, and before this turns into another 'Runescape Underage Wedding' thread, whats so horrible about being sexually attracted by kids? Its like any other weird fetishes, like furries or shemales or whatnot.

 

I have utmost trust on you guys not to label me as a pedophile and not turn this into some ignorant flame-fest. I'm not putting some stupid disclaimer covering my ass. Its a innocent question.


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There a pedophiles that control themselves, and as long as they do, nothing wrong with that.

 

That said, there can be nothing wrong with anything that happens with animation. I wouldn't even be too against nude live-action kids for movies, if it's done in a non-sexual scene, and someone should be on set to make sure nothing happens. I believe US law actually covers this, but its rarely used. Not that it would need to be used in most movies anyway.


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There a pedophiles that control themselves, and as long as they do, nothing wrong with that.

Then they wouldn't be pedophiles would they?


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There a pedophiles that control themselves, and as long as they do, nothing wrong with that.

Then they wouldn't be pedophiles would they?

There's a difference between a pedophile and a child molester. If there's another word for what I meant, then I don't know it.


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There's also a difference between kiddie porn and pictures that build up a storyline. The difference is personal opinion of the matter...


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Man got jail time and become a registered sex offender for it.

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/02/15/man-sentenced-to-6-months-in-prison-for-buying-lolicon-manga/

 

 

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Man got jail time and become a registered sex offender for it.

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/02/15/man-sentenced-to-6-months-in-prison-for-buying-lolicon-manga/

 

 

Debating to close this or not..xD

 

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That case was held in a goddamn kangaroo court. Seriously, he was compared to a child molester by the judge even though no children were harmed or involved in said manga, and then there's the whole "lacks literary value" argument. Well, Jersey Shore doesn't have literary value, and yet you don't see them arresting people for watching it. That case was a farce. Granted his sentence was reduced, but due to a faulty court system and cultural BS, his life is essentially ruined. Nice job jury.

 

I personally think as long as it isn't real child porn, and you just keep it to yourself, what's it hurting? Lolicon isn't necessarily bad, and in some cases it might actually curb someone from actually making child porn, although that argument is for another time.


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Man got jail time and become a registered sex offender for it.

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/02/15/man-sentenced-to-6-months-in-prison-for-buying-lolicon-manga/

 

 

Debating to close this or not..xD

 

*Admin discussion in progress*

 

That case was held in a goddamn kangaroo court. Seriously, he was compared to a child molester by the judge even though no children were harmed or involved in said manga, and then there's the whole "lacks literary value" argument. Well, Jersey Shore doesn't have literary value, and yet you don't see them arresting people for watching it. That case was a farce. Granted his sentence was reduced, but due to a faulty court system and cultural BS, his life is essentially ruined. Nice job jury.

 

I personally think as long as it isn't real child porn, and you just keep it to yourself, what's it hurting? Lolicon isn't necessarily bad, and in some cases it might actually curb someone from actually making child porn, although that argument is for another time.

 

My problem as an admin currently is more legal issues with the forum and the such.


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Man got jail time and become a registered sex offender for it.

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/02/15/man-sentenced-to-6-months-in-prison-for-buying-lolicon-manga/

 

 

Debating to close this or not..xD

 

*Admin discussion in progress*

 

That case was held in a goddamn kangaroo court. Seriously, he was compared to a child molester by the judge even though no children were harmed or involved in said manga, and then there's the whole "lacks literary value" argument. Well, Jersey Shore doesn't have literary value, and yet you don't see them arresting people for watching it. That case was a farce. Granted his sentence was reduced, but due to a faulty court system and cultural BS, his life is essentially ruined. Nice job jury.

 

I personally think as long as it isn't real child porn, and you just keep it to yourself, what's it hurting? Lolicon isn't necessarily bad, and in some cases it might actually curb someone from actually making child porn, although that argument is for another time.

 

My problem as an admin currently is more legal issues with the forum and the such.

 

Ah. I was mainly answering the link you posted, but that's understandable in any case.


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General discussion about the morality of it should be okay (and we had a pretty successful thread in Off-Topic a few weeks ago). But bringing personal experience and preferences into it is where things get complicated (i.e. saying "I like/look at lolicon"). So let's please try to stay away from that :)


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I don't see Lolicon as such a bad thing, it's not harming children in any way, it's just something that people might be in to. Loli/Shota, it's no stranger than tentacles. It doesn't make someone a sexual predator or child molester, y'know, since they're not molesting any children. They're looking at drawn pictures of fictional children.


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I don't see Lolicon as such a bad thing, it's not harming children in any way, it's just something that people might be in to. Loli/Shota, it's no stranger than tentacles. It doesn't make someone a sexual predator or child molester, y'know, since they're not molesting any children. They're looking at drawn pictures of fictional children.

i agree with you. there is nothing wrong with either. there just drawings so whats the big deal i mean i can understand the stuff about the porn but other than that. i can't see any problems with it. the only way to become a pedophile is to be born with it since it is a mental disorder. you may not no you're one and watch something with lolicon in it and it might activate it but you are born a pedophile not turned into one. look it up it is true.

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General discussion about the morality of it should be okay (and we had a pretty successful thread in Off-Topic a few weeks ago). But bringing personal experience and preferences into it is where things get complicated (i.e. saying "I like/look at lolicon"). So let's please try to stay away from that :)

okay but in the other conversatioin on this topic someone said that morality is sorta a gray area becaus there are no specific bounderies. so how are we to talk only about the morality if there is no way to no what is morale.

whats morale today could be imorale in a week since, morality is a persones opinion on what is right or wrong either way we are talking aout are opinions. so i can try but am not likely to succeed.

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hey is it okay to like some things that have lolicon/shotacon in them?

i was just wondering beccause some off the stuff ain't that bad. i mean take a look at full metal panic it ain't bad but it is listed as lolicon so is it realy that bad.

 

Full metal Panic is definitely not lolicon.


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hey is it okay to like some things that have lolicon/shotacon in them?

i was just wondering beccause some off the stuff ain't that bad. i mean take a look at full metal panic it ain't bad but it is listed as lolicon so is it realy that bad.

 

Full metal Panic is definitely not lolicon.

i figured that out on my own thanks for trying to help.

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General discussion about the morality of it should be okay (and we had a pretty successful thread in Off-Topic a few weeks ago). But bringing personal experience and preferences into it is where things get complicated (i.e. saying "I like/look at lolicon"). So let's please try to stay away from that :)

okay but in the other conversatioin on this topic someone said that morality is sorta a gray area becaus there are no specific bounderies. so how are we to talk only about the morality if there is no way to no what is morale.

whats morale today could be imorale in a week since, morality is a persones opinion on what is right or wrong either way we are talking aout are opinions. so i can try but am not likely to succeed.

 

Voicing your opinions is fine, just leave experience out of it :) You can say, "I don't think there's anything wrong with it because <reason>." Just don't say, "I look at it every day and love it. I don't think there's anything wrong with it."


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General discussion about the morality of it should be okay (and we had a pretty successful thread in Off-Topic a few weeks ago). But bringing personal experience and preferences into it is where things get complicated (i.e. saying "I like/look at lolicon"). So let's please try to stay away from that :)

okay but in the other conversatioin on this topic someone said that morality is sorta a gray area becaus there are no specific bounderies. so how are we to talk only about the morality if there is no way to no what is morale.

whats morale today could be imorale in a week since, morality is a persones opinion on what is right or wrong either way we are talking aout are opinions. so i can try but am not likely to succeed.

 

Voicing your opinions is fine, just leave experience out of it :) You can say, "I don't think there's anything wrong with it because <reason>." Just don't say, "I look at it every day and love it. I don't think there's anything wrong with it."

okay sorry i'll quit it.

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It's weird. It's much better than any alternative though since it's not harming anyone.

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