Sy_Accursed Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Been trying to work on my stamina fitness for a while now and lose a few stubborn lbs of fat, figure I should break into some proper full out cardio and running seems like a nice easy one to maintain; while still being one of the most effective. So I was just wonder any tips and tricks for building up into a routine. I found a 12 week program by Nike that some sports folks from uni recommend tht goes from 15minute walks through to 25 minute runs that seems a good place to start.But as for tips I'm looking mostly along the lines of deciding where and when to run and also any tips on beating the self-consciousness issue that many find tricky when starting to run. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unhesitating Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I've been thinking the same stuff. When i used to run, I liked to run in the morning, or in the evening because it's not as hot as the afternoon, which killed my desire to go run. And where did you find the program, it sounds interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiel Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 It's really hard to say how long you should be running without knowing your level of fitness, etc. but if you aren't sore after every run at the beginning, you aren't doing it right. DK drops (solo/LS): 66 hatchets, 14 archer rings, 13 berserker rings, 17 warrior rings, 12 seerculls, 13 mud staves, 7 seers ringsQBD drops: 1 kite, 2 visages, 4 dragonbone kits, 3 effigies, lots of crossbow partsCR vs. CLS threads always turn into discussions about penis size....It's not called a Compensation Longsword for nothing.I've sent a 12k combat mission to have Aiel assassinated (poor bastard isn't even Pincers-tier difficulty). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulxai Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 How good are you at waking up in the morning? If you can, I love running in the mornings. Nice crisp fresh air, no one around to watch you if you're self conscious (if it's early enough). I'd recommend mixing up two to three kinds of runs. First run is a longer slower run. I go for about 20 minutes, try to go at least 15, but at a slow pace. The second kind is sprinting. I do what are called 30/60's. You basically start off with a jog, then sprint (I mean SPRINT) for 30 seconds, then walk for 60 seconds, then repeat that 6-10 times. You can also do 60/120's, same concept (sprint 60, walk 120). The third kind is optional, and the reason I do it is because in the military, you need to run a certain time, is a pace run. Run about 10 minutes at a certain pace. I need to run at least an 8:00 mile time to pass, so I pace myself at an 8 minute mile, that way I'll get a feeling of how fast I have to run. ~ Proud Father ~ Proud (Currently Deployed) Army National Guardsmen ~ Proud Lakota ~ Retired Tip.It Crew ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 It's really hard to say how long you should be running without knowing your level of fitness, etc. but if you aren't sore after every run at the beginning, you aren't doing it right. And the award for reading comprehension goes too...If you actually read my post I didn't ask about that hence I did not include such info. I've been thinking the same stuff. When i used to run, I liked to run in the morning, or in the evening because it's not as hot as the afternoon, which killed my desire to go run. And where did you find the program, it sounds interesting.They are on nikeplus.comYou have to pikc the nike+ menu and coach to find them and you have to be signed up (its free) to see em but apprently they are pretty decent according to sports folks at my uni. How good are you at waking up in the morning? If you can, I love running in the mornings. Nice crisp fresh air, no one around to watch you if you're self conscious (if it's early enough). I'd recommend mixing up two to three kinds of runs. First run is a longer slower run. I go for about 20 minutes, try to go at least 15, but at a slow pace. The second kind is sprinting. I do what are called 30/60's. You basically start off with a jog, then sprint (I mean SPRINT) for 30 seconds, then walk for 60 seconds, then repeat that 6-10 times. You can also do 60/120's, same concept (sprint 60, walk 120). The third kind is optional, and the reason I do it is because in the military, you need to run a certain time, is a pace run. Run about 10 minutes at a certain pace. I need to run at least an 8:00 mile time to pass, so I pace myself at an 8 minute mile, that way I'll get a feeling of how fast I have to run. Yeah I'm thinking mornings sound like the best choice go at like 6am or w/e before its busy.Would I be right in saying here the first kind is best for general cardio, fat burning sort of work while the second is better for pushing stamina barriers? Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffwilson99 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 It's really hard to say how long you should be running without knowing your level of fitness, etc. but if you aren't sore after every run at the beginning, you aren't doing it right. And the award for reading comprehension goes too...If you actually read my post I didn't ask about that hence I did not include such info. And there it is... spurns the advice he asks for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 It's really hard to say how long you should be running without knowing your level of fitness, etc. but if you aren't sore after every run at the beginning, you aren't doing it right. And the award for reading comprehension goes too...If you actually read my post I didn't ask about that hence I did not include such info. And there it is... spurns the advice he asks for. Yeah given that I didn't ask at all how long I should run for you're post makes you seem thick as heck. I clearly stated I was looking for advice on :1) Building a routine of running which clearly means types of runs etc to achieve the two goals I mentioned (a point which Vulxai covered well)2) When and where to run, in particular with relation to beating the self-consciousness factor that can deter runners. I never asked for advice on how long I should run for; that's an issue that I can quite easily fathom myself. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiel Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 It's really hard to say how long you should be running without knowing your level of fitness, etc. but if you aren't sore after every run at the beginning, you aren't doing it right. And the award for reading comprehension goes too...If you actually read my post I didn't ask about that hence I did not include such info. And there it is... spurns the advice he asks for. Yeah given that I didn't ask at all how long I should run for you're post makes you seem thick as heck. I clearly stated I was looking for advice on :1) Building a routine of running which clearly means types of runs etc to achieve the two goals I mentioned (a point which Vulxai covered well)2) When and where to run, in particular with relation to beating the self-consciousness factor that can deter runners. I never asked for advice on how long I should run for; that's an issue that I can quite easily fathom myself.I bolded the part I answered so you can figure it out :) It's impossible to tell where/when you should be running as I have no idea what your lifestyle is like or what options you have for running in your area. As for self consciousness, who cares what a bunch of [bleep]s think about you? DK drops (solo/LS): 66 hatchets, 14 archer rings, 13 berserker rings, 17 warrior rings, 12 seerculls, 13 mud staves, 7 seers ringsQBD drops: 1 kite, 2 visages, 4 dragonbone kits, 3 effigies, lots of crossbow partsCR vs. CLS threads always turn into discussions about penis size....It's not called a Compensation Longsword for nothing.I've sent a 12k combat mission to have Aiel assassinated (poor bastard isn't even Pincers-tier difficulty). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffwilson99 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 It's really hard to say how long you should be running without knowing your level of fitness, etc. but if you aren't sore after every run at the beginning, you aren't doing it right. And the award for reading comprehension goes too...If you actually read my post I didn't ask about that hence I did not include such info. And there it is... spurns the advice he asks for. Yeah given that I didn't ask at all how long I should run for you're post makes you seem thick as heck. I clearly stated I was looking for advice on :1) Building a routine of running which clearly means types of runs etc to achieve the two goals I mentioned (a point which Vulxai covered well)2) When and where to run, in particular with relation to beating the self-consciousness factor that can deter runners. I never asked for advice on how long I should run for; that's an issue that I can quite easily fathom myself. Firstly, just becuase the advice you get isn't specifically what you're looking, it doesn't mean you have totrying and insult the people that actually bother to try and help you. Maybe if you weren't such an arse then more people would try and help. Secondly, the time and distance you run does relate to how you try and build a routine. You didn't state what you wanted very clearly, because you did in fact mention times. "I found a 12 week program by Nike that some sports folks from uni recommend tht goes from 15minute walks through to 25 minute runs that seems a good place to start" If you can fathom how long you can run for, then why do you need to follow that programme? Are how are we supposed to tell you when and where to run? You should run when you have time and when it best suits you. That could be in the morning before uni, it could be late at night after work. Seeing as we have no idea where you live, you could run around the block, or you could run around the local park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 Clearly you have trouble grasping "tips and tricks" as a concept.Tips and tricks on building up into a routine tips and tricks on when and where to run etc. You don't need any specifics for any of it. Tips & Tricks would beYour better off running on soft ground rather than tarmac when you're new to running so try to find a park to run in.To try and build a routine you should try and running x times a week, and work towards y times a week.You should mix types of run using these. Vulxai clearly can give tips and tricks quite efficiently based on the info I gave.I didn't spurn any actual advice; only a comment saying you cant tell me how to run for, since I didn't ask that. And yes I mentioned time briefly in reference to building up a routine, but it doesn't mean I want specific numbers it was just an example of one I had found/been directed too that seemed like a good sort of method. Twelve weeks that progress you from 15 minute walks to 25 minute runs. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripsis Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Let's try to get back on track and be a little nicer all around ;) (directed at all parties here) - 99 fletching | 99 thieving | 99 construction | 99 herblore | 99 smithing | 99 woodcutting - - 99 runecrafting - 99 prayer - 125 combat - 95 farming - - Blog - DeviantART - Book Reviews & Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquariusman Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Just sayin' Now, if you want to run, all you ca really do is start running. Not knowing how much of a runner you are in the first place does actually hinder us helping you, as it tells us whether or not we need to suggest certain training styles. For instance, if you are a weak runner, walking/running intervals are a great way to get to prolonged runs (It's how I started in fact). But if you're in good shape, sprinting intervals/just running are great ways to do things. A routine involves not just the frequency of your runs, but the lengths and speeds. But if you just want "tips and tricks" get off your arse and run. That's the only real tip we can give you, that you're looking for. You have that routine from Nike+, so just start. Change if you realize it's not working out. The only thing you need to do is get into the habit of running. Once you get that done you can worry about specifics. There's no such thing as regret. A regret means you are unhappy with the person you are now,and if you're unhappy with the person you are, you change yourself. Thatregret will no longer be a regret, because it will help to form the new,better you. So really, a regret isn't a regret. It's experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin_696 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 ^^^ This Don't try and overanalyse it, running is simple so just go out and do it. You don't need that program unless you're so obese that the effort of walking tires you. Buy some proper running trainers (go to a shop where they analyse your gait and stride) and run as much as you can every week. FYI, 30+ minutes switches from glycogen (short term sugar stores) to fat breakdown, so that might be better if you're trying to lose weight but anything is better than nothing. There are no tips and tricks, it's all entirely personal preference. All you need is a pair of trainers and some motivation. "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 That where my fitness is weird I am not unfit or extremely overweight just typical sort of slightly eat too much, and dont do quite enough could lsoe a few lbs but no real need to state. My stamina just utterly BLOWS; I think it could be linked to being asthmatic when I was younger coulda effected lungs or sumat. Like after maybe 3 - 5 minutes intensive excercise or about 10 - 15 mild excercise (eg walking around town non-stop) my breath just is completely lost and I have to stop and recover before I can continue; but its only my breath like all my muscles and heart rate etc feel fine and could carry on. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obfuscator Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 It's entirely possible to appear to be in decent physical state but with terrible stamina - stamina is largely based on the exercise you get and not as much on your eating habits (although obviously they are important). Myself for example, never had any medical problems, BMI of 19 I think, fairly thin, eat pretty well, but my stamina sucks. Why? Not because I eat unhealthy or am overweight - just because I don't often get prolonged exercise anymore. However, if you were asthmatic that probably doesn't help. "It's not a rest for me, it's a rest for the weights." - Dom Mazzetti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulxai Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 How good are you at waking up in the morning? If you can, I love running in the mornings. Nice crisp fresh air, no one around to watch you if you're self conscious (if it's early enough). I'd recommend mixing up two to three kinds of runs. First run is a longer slower run. I go for about 20 minutes, try to go at least 15, but at a slow pace. The second kind is sprinting. I do what are called 30/60's. You basically start off with a jog, then sprint (I mean SPRINT) for 30 seconds, then walk for 60 seconds, then repeat that 6-10 times. You can also do 60/120's, same concept (sprint 60, walk 120). The third kind is optional, and the reason I do it is because in the military, you need to run a certain time, is a pace run. Run about 10 minutes at a certain pace. I need to run at least an 8:00 mile time to pass, so I pace myself at an 8 minute mile, that way I'll get a feeling of how fast I have to run. Yeah I'm thinking mornings sound like the best choice go at like 6am or w/e before its busy.Would I be right in saying here the first kind is best for general cardio, fat burning sort of work while the second is better for pushing stamina barriers? Sorry for the late response, been away the past couple days. Anyways, from my experience, the long distance one improves your leg endurance as well as your body's natural endurance to work for longer periods of time, while the second one improves your bodies ability to take in the oxygen needed during intense periods, and improve your stamina during intense periods. (The pace run just improves your ability to run at a certain pace) ~ Proud Father ~ Proud (Currently Deployed) Army National Guardsmen ~ Proud Lakota ~ Retired Tip.It Crew ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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