Hegemony

[The_Mather1]

Should there be any attack on a European country or player, we will attack them with full force. As will Germany, I believe, and probably a few EU npc's.

 

These are hazardous times. Don't risk a World War over something trivial.

Might I qualify as European with my Icelandic vassal if I offer the same in return?

Also, Dusty is European too.

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Minor updates:

 

Brazil:

Brazil has begun bombing runs of Argentina, as well as cruise missile strikes against Argentine naval forces. With the overwhelming might of Brazil against them many warlords have turned their loyalties over to that of the Brazilian Government. This, of course, has not stopped raiding parties forming and looting neighbouring countries for food and basic medical resources.

Brazil, along with Paraguay and Uruguay, have formed several army groups and advanced on a wide front to bottle up the Argentine forces in Argentina. Of course this has had virtually no effect, since the line quickly became distended, due to terrain, fighting and other various reasons, resulting in roving bands of Paraguians, Uruguians and Brazilians roving around each other's countries with a free pass to mischief and mayhem. While some of the battle groups remained mostly disciplined, most did not.

As a result the spread of 'Argentine' raids has increased and all three Governments have pulled back their forces in the hopes of stemming the violence...which has largely succeeded leading to serious questions being asked of the Generals in charge of the operation.

 

Elsewhere the new Argentine Constitution has been drafted, which has produced several 'states', largely borne out of Warlords Territory.

 

Also the Brazilian airfoce has swelled to over 10,000 aircraft. The vast orders have crashed local economies and resulted in -5% growth.

Aircraft carriers have also been scrapped.

 

Brazil's leader has been temporarily deposed by his/her general staff, the reasons for this are unclear, but Government insiders state it has something to do with the recently re/de/re/de/commissioned ICBM silos. The silos never got off the planning stage, but the national union of ICBM contractors have, supposedly, threatened to strike if another order and cancellation occurs.

A spokesperson said 'We are not made of ICBMS!'

The Brazilian Leader's therapy should be completed next year.

 

Russia:

In Russia the Great Lord Serephus(Or whatever) has been deposed in a bloodless coup by the United Socialist Social Republicans, under the catchy elision(kinda) U'S'S'R, or, phonetically, You-Tsar.

The Great and powerful Comrade Serephus has risen to power.

 

Switzlerland:

Another cartoon has been released, though there has been no real responce anywhere.

There are two hands shaking, one with "Europe" on the arm-collar, and the other "South America". However, a third hand, labeled "Brazil" can be seen bringing a sword down upon the hand symbolizing Europe. This is released throughout Europe and South America, the captions in their respective languages.

 

The Swiss Nuclear Energy Union is launching protests against their power stations being shut down for a whole year. Various union members have said that 'They are doing it because they think Brazil is going to overreact to some cartoons! Who ever heard of anything so silly.'

Their overall affect has been negligible so far.

 

 

 

South America:

Recent events, such as the creation of the Brazilian Puppet(not really) state of Argentina, have lead to a fundermental shift in South American Policies, resulting in the creation of the 'Brazil' issue. While the Easten half of South America favours Brazils policies, along with Columbia, the West fears it intensely. This has been borne out in recent election results, which show that the East are willing to do anything to keep in with Brazil, while the West have begun vast rhetoric based attacks, as well as increasing taxation and even turning a blind eye to the destruction of Brazilian Factories.

The effect is thus:

Urgaguay, Paraguay and Argentina become 100% puppets of Brazil.

Columbia, Guyana and Suriname remains unchanged.

Chile, Venezula Bolivia, Peru and Equador have become diametrically opposed to anything, and everything, Brazil does. While not quite at the stage where if Brazil outlawed slavery, they would make it legal, the point is still valid, and they will basically resist anything Brazil has a large part of.

[Icuownage]

Germany garuntees the independence of the west South american's who disagree with Brazil's absolute rule stating:

 

"Brazil is too corrupt to control such a vast land, they must be not be allowed full ownership"

[Retech]

The Brazilian leader has been incapacitated by the accidental use of poisoned needles in his/her acupuncture treatment. It quickly led to cardiac arrest and severe brain damage, resulting in the leader's unfitness to rule.

 

(I'm not going to argue or make a scene because this is your game and you should be able to run it the way that you want)

[Wisp]

Come on Retech, stay in the game. Just adjust your goals, focus on improving your country and whatnot.

[Retech]

Nah Wisp, it is not the failure of my plans that caused me to leave.

 

However, I'll be reading the thread and enjoying the story.

[Seraphi]

The Brazilian leader has been incapacitated by the accidental use of poisoned needles in his/her acupuncture treatment. It quickly led to cardiac arrest and severe brain damage, resulting in the leader's unfitness to rule.

 

(I'm not going to argue or make a scene because this is your game and you should be able to run it the way that you want)

Quitting because your plan didn't work is kind of low.

 

Roll with the punches. Change your goals, work towards something new. Don't just quit because something didn't go quite how you wanted it to.

 

After all, what goes around comes around.

[Icuownage]

It really does seem like you're qutting cause your plans failed

 

And if your plans DID succeed, I probably would have declared war on you. The point of hegemony is to win, and I can't win if someone is ahead of me.

[Wisp]

Could always just have your country sit around researching and growing, and then if you feel like playing you can.

[Retech]

Well it is not the fact that my plans failed, it is more the manner in which they failed.

 

It is difficult for me to overcome this because there's nothing I can do about it, except play in a way that isn't very fun for me.

[Wisp]

Expand your interest elsewhere. Make peace with them. Become less radical in your expansionism. I dunno.

[The_Mather1]

Uhm... we're nearing in on a 14 year round now.

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Care to explain your logic?

[Retech]

Expand your interest elsewhere. Make peace with them. Become less radical in your expansionism. I dunno.

 

That's not it, my reason isn't even related to the failure of my plan. Had there been a different reason for the screw-up, I would've gladly continued and tried to make the current situation work. There are ways to make contingencies against forseeable failures and even unanticipated catastrophes, but not against, imho, getting unreasonably gimped.

 

It's happened a few times already, so I think I'm done by now. The thing about Hegemony compared to other games is that it is really the mod's vision for how the world works that counts. My conception of the world is just too different from Archi's conception of the world, so there's no way that I can do anything that doesn't get screwed over.

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*rolls eyes*

Because in the real world there are rules which can be followed which always give the same results.

Also, and not to put too fine a point on it, reasonableness is relative, and since everyone has the same results when they try to do what you did...you should really untwist your knickers.

[Retech]

Well the puppet rules were there for a reason.

 

Theoretically if we were following the rules precisely, only Chile would be allowed to become diametrically opposed because by that point, I had puppetted all of the other country.

[archimage_a]

Nah, if we followed the rules precisely you could screw over all the diametrically opposed countries, apart from Chile and, to a lesser extent, Bolivia.

[Retech]

Yeah, maybe that's why I have such a problem with Hegemony.

 

The rules aren't nearly as solid as they are in other games, so I can't use rules to plan anything, which is basically how I operate.

[archimage_a]

I agree.

The rules are subjective, so you can't rely on them, so you are forced to make less than perfect decisions, leading to less than perfect results...ect...ect...

Just like in the real world.

[Retech]

Well, supposedly I'd have advisors that live in the Hegemony world that could inform me of the differences. :P

[Icuownage]

The mod is the advisor... You ask him questions and he answers to the best of his ability.

 

Also again Retech

 

If you puppeted the whole of SA I would have declared war on you anyway, it would've put you too far in the lead and thus I would've tried to stop you. So if I destroyed your plans like that, you probably would have quit.

 

And where were you nerfed?

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=P

They did tell you on several occasions how things work.

 

 

But I understand what you are saying...but if it was as simple as saying 'I want this, how do I do it? And what problems will that lead to, and how do I solve them?' Thanks, can you just repeat the last question each year and do the advised actions.'

Then its not terribly fun for anyone.

[The_Mather1]

Care to explain your logic?

Oops, hadn't noticed the new budgets so I've been sitting around waiting for them. #-o

EDIT: Or rather, I didn't know that they were updated, not just exchanged for Euro.

 

€ 30,000,000,000 is spent on finishing repairs in Tokyo.

€ 400,000,000 is invested into Greenland (€ 314,285,714 was their GDP in 2001). (Yeah, they have their own government, they're just under the Danish queen, but she has virtually no power, even in Denmark.)

€ 4,200,000,000 is invested into Laos (€ 4,127,714,286 GDP in 2009).

€ 21,000,000,000 is invested into Burma (€ 20,506,285,714 GDP in 2009).

 

Also I have € 2,000,000,000 in leftovers from last budget.

[Retech]

The mod is the advisor... You ask him questions and he answers to the best of his ability.

 

Also again Retech

 

If you puppeted the whole of SA I would have declared war on you anyway, it would've put you too far in the lead and thus I would've tried to stop you. So if I destroyed your plans like that, you probably would have quit.

 

And where were you nerfed?

 

That's not the point. A good war is always fun and dandy, and there is no guarentee that you would've won. The place I was nerfed was when I purchased planes for real life prices (100 million each), and then I find out that in the game, they are only 1/100th the cost. Naturally I ask for a refund, which is denied. Then I proceed to order the planes that I would've gotten (20 billion dollars worth of planes) and my economy crashes.

 

Then my Argentina plan is mis-interpreted to include bombing into Argentina, which was not the case.

 

Also, that is why I just left instead of going on my standard smash spree and hitting European nuclear reactors to gimp Europe. IT IS NOT BECAUSE MY PLANS FAILED. It is more that the rules weren't really hard rules and that I couldn't rely on anything but Archi's conception of the world, which again, is different from mine.

 

Also, I was not afraid of anything except events, because frankly, I would have had all of South America on my side. Now before you mention that your GDP was larger than South America's, just a reminder that military is a percentage of the owning nation's GDP. If I had not been gimped (again, subject to opinion), I would have had an estimated budget of 800 billion and a huge military, because I could just load up the soldiers in my puppets and not have to pay any upkeep.

 

I never quit because my plans have been ruined. I quit when I have been defeated (like game over defeated). When my plans get ruined, I take REVENGE. It's part of my philosophy of dragging down my enemies when I am going to be defeated regardless, much like the Balrog dragged down Gandalf into the pit. Though in my case, that would be general country wrecking and genocide.

[The_Mather1]

Oh, and is there any way to peacfully annex a puppet state of yours?