Iamfarming Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Hey guys, I was wondering whether if would be better to barrage rock lobsters to get 99 summon rather than slay for the charms. I plan on getting 99 slayer anyways but I was wondering whether or not 99 summoning would speed up the xp/h on slayer to the point where it would be more efficient to get 99 summoning first. Sorry if that was a bit confusing but basically does 99 summoning significantly speed up your slayer xp/h. Or would I be better off just getting the charms from slayer and get 99 slayer + summoning simultaneously. Thanks guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Since you are 99 magic, I'd say no it isn't. It is however worth doing Bork and triple charms to get your summoning ahead. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wioneo Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 96 Summoning makes tasks like dragons, wyverns and demons much faster(assuming no urns/crusher and you don't want to waste the drops). Besides that, summoning does not really have much affect on slayer since you already have the level for soulsplit.1 more prayer level for turmoiling every task(it's about 8 ppots for most tasks in proselyte) is much much faster, though. EDIT: Just realized i did not really directly answer the question, so just slay and boost up summoning in chunks whenever you can unlock a new useful familiar, which for you would be...lvl 83 for mining and faster training, 85 for faster training, 88 for obvious reasons, 91 n 93 for effigies, 95 and 96 for bad ass familiars, and then finish. Granted some or all of those numbers may be wrong because my memory is generaly horrible. Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield + DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 SeercullDragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,HalberdGWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh + Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core + Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow [spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 + Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 + Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 + Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 + Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 + Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 + Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14Agility Cape Acquired 1-4-15 + Hunter Cape Acquired 1-30-15 + Construction Cape Acquired 1-31-15 + Crafting Cape Acquired 2-22-15 + Thieving Cape Acquired 3-18-15Runecrafting Cape Acquired 4-14-15 + Mining Cape Acquired 4-19-15 + Fishing Cape Acquired 4-25-15 + Firemaking Cape Acquired 4-26-15 + Woodcutting Cape Acquired 4-26-15Cooking Cape Acquired 4-26-15+ Smithing Cape Acquired 4-28-15 + Farming Cape Acquired 4-29-15 + Divination Cape Acquired 5-3-15 + Dungeoneering Mastery 5-4-15Fletching Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Max Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Invention Cape Acquired 11-9-16 + Invention Mastery 5-16-19 + Archaeology Cape Acquired 10-30-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudyaard Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 96 Summoning makes tasks like dragons, wyverns and demons much faster(assuming no urns/crusher and you don't want to waste the drops). Besides that, summoning does not really have much affect on slayer since you already have the level for soulsplit.1 more prayer level for turmoiling every task(it's about 8 ppots for most tasks in proselyte) is much much faster, though. EDIT: Just realized i did not really directly answer the question, so just slay and boost up summoning in chunks whenever you can unlock a new useful familiar, which for you would be...lvl 83 for mining and faster training, 85 for faster training, 88 for obvious reasons, 91 n 93 for effigies, 95 and 96 for bad ass familiars, and then finish. Granted some or all of those numbers may be wrong because my memory is generaly horrible. 89 is quite a decent milestone, too. Geysers are good on multicombat tasks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceLightning Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 My linkMaybe burst to 88 for uni ? then slay the rest? All you really need for slayer...Unless you have the patience for 96 ;p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanaboy Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 I would do slayer first. As for yakking bones, that won't be needed if you use a bonecrusher, which I find much easier. The only reason to bank them would be if you have money troubles (which you may not have if you are considering barraging lobsters). Also I recommend doing the triple charm thing for waterfiend tasks, when possible of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPMC Mate Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 My linkMaybe burst to 88 for uni ? then slay the rest? All you really need for slayer...Unless you have the patience for 96 ;pNo, Uni is in no way needed for Slayer... Geyser is way more useful for Slayer. Really? Cause as I recall it was you who was the one cussing me at base. Also, re-read what you just said: one 15 second delay (which is an exaggeration to begin with) ruins floor times? You are beyond ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jijilentosmi Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 In my experience, the helpful summoning levels for slayer are: 88 for Unicorn Stallion, though with soul split, this might be unnecessary. 89 for Geyser Titan. I was only 88 Slayer when I got 99 Slayer, so I never got to use this, but it's a good fighting familiar that gives Range experience.96 for Pak-Yak. Although to be honest, a fighting familar is better. This is only useful for Metal Dragons really.99 for Steel Titan. Like the Geyser Titan, a good fighting familar that gives Range experience. Obviously getting higher summoning makes slayer faster, however, you can manage with your current level. Just gain these levels when you've got enough charms and for now, try using: Bunyip- Healing Familar, you can choose to go without it using soul split.War Tortoise- Only useful on a few tasks where you need more supplies. Such as Dark Beasts. Hydra- Since it gives Range experience, which is normally a bit slower than melee experience, since you basically want to melee all the time. Except Nechryaels if you choose to chin. Most of the experience comes from your cannon. Note: Some people may suggest a fruit bat for healing but don't, it's a slow process and will take time away from getting kills. You can do virtually every task with a Bunyip and be fine for hp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPMC Mate Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 The above is why Uni is not worth it for slayer. Also, you forgot 95 for Iron Titan and 93/94/95 for Wolper. Really? Cause as I recall it was you who was the one cussing me at base. Also, re-read what you just said: one 15 second delay (which is an exaggeration to begin with) ruins floor times? You are beyond ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jijilentosmi Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 The above is why Uni is not worth it for slayer. Also, you forgot 95 for Iron Titan and 93/94/95 for Wolper. Well. Uni is useful for slayer, just not necessary. It's also cheaper than getting the prayer level for soul-split (maybe not in the long run, since you do save a bit money/time over using piety). Iron Titan and Wolpertinger are useful, however, I'd much prefer gaining Range experience from a fighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPMC Mate Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 That is true too. However, I honestly wouldn't stop at 88 summoning and just go to 89 for Geyser. Really? Cause as I recall it was you who was the one cussing me at base. Also, re-read what you just said: one 15 second delay (which is an exaggeration to begin with) ruins floor times? You are beyond ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamfarming Posted July 22, 2011 Author Share Posted July 22, 2011 Hm alright thanks guys. I'm currently getting 99 prayer, only a few more frost bones to use so turm will be used all the time. So it seems the general consensus is to get 99 summon by collecting charms from slayer, sounds good (maybe just barrage to 89 or so?) :) Thanks for the help so far! Also, from an efficiency standpoint, it's not worth picking up golds/greens correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jijilentosmi Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Hm alright thanks guys. I'm currently getting 99 prayer, only a few more frost bones to use so turm will be used all the time. So it seems the general consensus is to get 99 summon by collecting charms from slayer, sounds good (maybe just barrage to 89 or so?) :) Thanks for the help so far! Also, from an efficiency standpoint, it's not worth picking up golds/greens correct? On most tasks, you can pick up charms without losing time, also just a note: I picked up every charm getting to 99 Slayer and only have enough charms for about 97, so I'd probably pick up greens/golds, since the alternative is exp past 99, which is pointless to me currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamfarming Posted July 22, 2011 Author Share Posted July 22, 2011 Hm alright thanks guys. I'm currently getting 99 prayer, only a few more frost bones to use so turm will be used all the time. So it seems the general consensus is to get 99 summon by collecting charms from slayer, sounds good (maybe just barrage to 89 or so?) :) Thanks for the help so far! Also, from an efficiency standpoint, it's not worth picking up golds/greens correct? On most tasks, you can pick up charms without losing time, also just a note: I picked up every charm getting to 99 Slayer and only have enough charms for about 97, so I'd probably pick up greens/golds, since the alternative is exp past 99, which is pointless to me currently. Hm alright, that sounds good. I hate leaving charms on the ground anyways so that's more reason to pick them all up haha. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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