Randox Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 If you havent noticed, in todays postbag from the hege romeo basicly says that the wise old man left the mon clan cape he wears on a bench. In other words the WOM was once a member of the moonclan. Hope it helps :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1alebcay Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 W00t 400 posts... Nice KC Oh well back to the point. I think the whole mason idea isn't very likely because alot of Jagex's history for RS comes from Greek mythology. I think that the whole Zammy and Zaros analogy is fairly accurate, but probably doesn't pertain to this. As far as summoning a god goes, that just doesn't seem like something that Jagex would do. I mean heck I have some crazy ideas, but we have to think about the type of updates Jagex does, the closest they have come to an end of the world idea is pest control. Wait a cotton picking moment I just thought of something. The wizards in demon slayer know how to summon also, because they summoned Delrith... Just thinking who all knows how to summon? Maglinus (or whatever his name is) Grayzag (he summons imps when you attack him) The wizards in demon slayer (they summoned Delrith) Frumscone (in swan Song you are asked to ask him for his zombies) (quick question to any member reading this, is Frumscone old? Like as old as say, Trailborn, and what color are his robes, are they a lighter color than wizard robes?) And the WOM knows that summoning exhists Back to the whole Delrith idea. First of all Delrith is a demon. (No, really?) Second of all he was summoned by mages of Zamarock. Lets look back in history. The Wizard tower was burnt down by Zamorock mages. We think that at that time maybe the wizards were trying to learn how to summon. Maybe the Zamorock mages were trying to summon Delrith? Maybe Grayzag is a spy sent by Zamorock to find out if the wizards are trying to learn summoning? Or maybe since the wizards when they rebuilt the tower put the lesser demon on the floor because it was originally there. And the reason it was there was for the Zamorock mages to see how it worked so that they could summon another demon- delrith. Or maybe instead of summoning Delrith they were trying to summon elder dragons. Lets say they suceeded in summoning, but while they were at it the summoned creature burnt down the tower. The only people who escaped are Trailborn, or maybe even the WOM. Lets say at one point the WOM became a lowly wizard at the tower when it burnt down. He was there long enough how to learn spells of the ancients but not all of them. (like the spells he uses in the bank robbery) He was just beginning to be trusted with the whole summoning thin when the tower burnt down. He never found out and went on with life. Now that he has settled down he has thought over his past life and thought about all that happened, and he figured out what happened. Now he has come back to figure it out. That is why he says the powers of Trailborn are not to be underestimated. (in one of the letters) Trailborn was the one wizard who did not approve of him knowing of summoning. Now the WOM wants revenge. Now then KCHughes, Would you think about changing the title again? Something like Summoning, The Wise old man and a secret society! or something like that. What has become of the runescape community???? :wall:There is a community? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibush Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 Wow, lots of work you've put into this. I wish I had of done that. I'm really interested in the old man thing, the story is pretty cool. The farthest I've gotten is looking out his telescope/questioning him, though... So this is pretty much an ongoing event that hasn't ended yet? Maybe with the Ocean thing,it could be like... After the old man launches an attack on it, it could be that Jagex opens a new area, like...Members-Only Atlantis?! It would be interesting. I hope the old man thing doesen't go to the members though. :boohoo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCHughes Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 Let's look at some facts. Malignus can summon ghosts, skeletons, undead things, and most often fungi. Frumscoe can summon zombies, the dark wizards can summon a freaking demon, Grayzag can summon imps. I'd say that of all these summoning groups, the dark wizards are the most advanced, in that they can summon the strongest (I think). However, Malignus isn't to far behind them because he can summon a large variety of things (I was thinking, does he summon those elemental wizards that follow him around?) This is turning into a little Cold War, "who's going to get the bomb first" kind of deal. Malignus is the way to go with summoning, in my opinion. I wouldn't underestimate Jagex to throw in some masonic thing into the game. :P The've got the Temple Knights (Templars) already. They might even be trying to move in a different direction entirely. the russians are the best! Hands down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknowable Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 Let's look at some facts. Malignus can summon ghosts, skeletons, undead things, and most often fungi. Frumscoe can summon zombies, the dark wizards can summon a freaking demon, Grayzag can summon imps. I'd say that of all these summoning groups, the dark wizards are the most advanced, in that they can summon the strongest (I think). However, Malignus isn't to far behind them because he can summon a large variety of things (I was thinking, does he summon those elemental wizards that follow him around?) This is turning into a little Cold War, "who's going to get the bomb first" kind of deal. Malignus is the way to go with summoning, in my opinion. I wouldn't underestimate Jagex to throw in some masonic thing into the game. :P The've got the Temple Knights (Templars) already. They might even be trying to move in a different direction entirely. Well, they've got the Knights of the round table too. Back on topic: Maybe we should go back to the idea of te Sophanem and Enahkra? Or we could just combine it all. I don't like the theory of the penguins, that poll isn't a statement, it was just a bit of fun. Summoning ftw! :XD: The Beehive The Beehive The Beehive The Beehive The Beehive The Beehive The Beehive The Beehive The Beehive The Beehive The Beehive The Beehive The Beehive The Beehive The Beehive The Beehive The Beehive The Beehive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCHughes Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 If you havent noticed, in todays postbag from the hege romeo basicly says that the wise old man left the mon clan cape he wears on a bench. In other words the WOM was once a member of the moonclan. Hope it helps :) I forgot to say something about that. Obviously he is well trained in lunar magics. I'd like to know if he knows anything about ancient magics. Anyone (members) know? Here's what confuses me. Lunar magics was only released to the public, what, four months ago? WOM must have obviously been involved in lunar magics for a long time before that, since he's been living in Draynor for about a year. That means he was in contact with the Moon Clan before anyone knew they existed. That brings me to two points. 1. WOM has traveled the world trying to gather as much information on magic as he possibly can. I think this woud reinforce the theory that WOM is angry at the wizards in the tower (possibly for its secret society or something else) and wants to know more about magic than they do, either to show them up or destroy them. 2. WOM knew lunar magics even BEFORE the Moon Clan did, and he taught the Moon Clan about it. This would mean that WOM was at one time the only known human to know lunar magics. What does that mean? He's the best mage on earth, possibly ever. I'm really sold on the secret society theory here. It seems to take root in just about all of WOM's actions. the russians are the best! Hands down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1alebcay Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 If you havent noticed, in todays postbag from the hege romeo basicly says that the wise old man left the mon clan cape he wears on a bench. In other words the WOM was once a member of the moonclan. Hope it helps :) I forgot to say something about that. Obviously he is well trained in lunar magics. I'd like to know if he knows anything about ancient magics. Anyone (members) know? Here's what confuses me. Lunar magics was only released to the public, what, four months ago? WOM must have obviously been involved in lunar magics for a long time before that, since he's been living in Draynor for about a year. That means he was in contact with the Moon Clan before anyone knew they existed. That brings me to two points. 1. WOM has traveled the world trying to gather as much information on magic as he possibly can. I think this woud reinforce the theory that WOM is angry at the wizards in the tower (possibly for its secret society or something else) and wants to know more about magic than they do, either to show them up or destroy them. 2. WOM knew lunar magics even BEFORE the Moon Clan did, and he taught the Moon Clan about it. This would mean that WOM was at one time the only known human to know lunar magics. What does that mean? He's the best mage on earth, possibly ever. I'm really sold on the secret society theory here. It seems to take root in just about all of WOM's actions. Humm... (l like saying Humm...) That would sorta fit with my idea that the WOM used to be a wizard in the wizard's tower. First of all Delrith is a demon. (No, really?) Second of all he was summoned by mages of Zamarock. Lets look back in history. The Wizard tower was burnt down by Zamorock mages. We think that at that time maybe the wizards were trying to learn how to summon. Maybe the Zamorock mages were trying to summon Delrith? Maybe Grayzag is a spy sent by Zamorock to find out if the wizards are trying to learn summoning? Or maybe since the wizards when they rebuilt the tower put the lesser demon on the floor because it was originally there. And the reason it was there was for the Zamorock mages to see how it worked so that they could summon another demon- delrith. Or maybe instead of summoning Delrith they were trying to summon elder dragons. Lets say they suceeded in summoning, but while they were at it the summoned creature burnt down the tower. The only people who escaped are Trailborn, or maybe even the WOM. Lets say at one point the WOM became a lowly wizard at the tower when it burnt down. He was there long enough how to learn spells of the ancients but not all of them. (like the spells he uses in the bank robbery) He was just beginning to be trusted with the whole summoning thin when the tower burnt down. He never found out and went on with life. Now that he has settled down he has thought over his past life and thought about all that happened, and he figured out what happened. Now he has come back to figure it out. That is why he says the powers of Trailborn are not to be underestimated. (in one of the letters) Trailborn was the one wizard who did not approve of him knowing of summoning. Now the WOM wants revenge. Maybe the WOM was about to learn summoning and that is why he didn't go to Entra. WOM learned the basics of how to make new spells and that is how he taught the moon clan. That is also how he has all of those different spells when he attacks the bank. Also lets say that the society is what kept him from learning of summoning. They were the wizards that disapproved of it and Trailborn is their leader. (I keep thinking about the reader letter that says don't underestimate the powers of wizard Trailborn.) The WOM feels that he didn't deserve to be not told about summoning so he went off and did his own little thing. What has become of the runescape community???? :wall:There is a community? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randox Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 Something i'd like to point out is that malignius does not summon. He is a NECROMANCER not a summoner. he rases the dead, and by the name necromancer (necromancy) he want the undead to tell him secrets. Also i've seen alot on summoning runes, but unless there specificly mentioned in members than why are they nesasry. In the origin of magic in the library of varrock, runes were not origanaly nessasary, and were created to help those who had not been part of the origanal study group. Maby things like necromancy and summonong do not reqire runes, so the WOM may want runes for something elese :-k heres a definition of necromancy which I belive fits malignius quite well (the second definition) necromancy noun 1. the belief in magical spells that harness occult forces or evil spirits to produce unnatural effects in the world [syn] 2. conjuring up the dead, especially for prophesying now summoning summoning noun calling up supposed supernatural forces by spells and incantations [syn] (note that by this definition of summoning, all our spells are in someway a summons so I do not belive in these special runes, either sommoning works on runes we have or not on runes at all) And I have no idea if this helps, but it might so here it is :uhh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thief2668 Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 1. 20 degrees 54 minutes N and 7 degrees 4 minutes E 2. 7 degrees 4 minutes N and 20 degrees 54 minutes E hope this helps Please forgive me if this has alredy been posted, but, in the second picture, the location seems to be exactly one space north of the gravemarker, the one which has a symbol which looks like that of Zaros. It is also the same grave that we dug on to get some sort of skull in a quest for the Necromancer, A Fairy Tale part 1, I believe. Maybe this has to do something with Zaros, which has something to do with the Necromancer south of Falador? Edit: Okay, maybe not exactly on space north of it, but it's very close to it. Off Topic: I just found out, the Zaros symbol seems to look quite similar to the one that the 'Zodiac Killer' used to sign his letters... Just something I noticed. Religious Text is not permitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1alebcay Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 Something i'd like to point out is that malignius does not summon. He is a NECROMANCER not a summoner. he rases the dead, and by the name necromancer (necromancy) he want the undead to tell him secrets. Also i've seen alot on summoning runes, but unless there specificly mentioned in members than why are they nesasry. In the origin of magic in the library of varrock, runes were not origanaly nessasary, and were created to help those who had not been part of the origanal study group. Maby things like necromancy and summonong do not reqire runes, so the WOM may want runes for something elese :-k heres a definition of necromancy which I belive fits malignius quite well (the second definition) necromancy noun 1. the belief in magical spells that harness occult forces or evil spirits to produce unnatural effects in the world [syn] 2. conjuring up the dead, especially for prophesying now summoning summoning noun calling up supposed supernatural forces by spells and incantations [syn] (note that by this definition of summoning, all our spells are in someway a summons so I do not belive in these special runes, either sommoning works on runes we have or not on runes at all) And I have no idea if this helps, but it might so here it is :uhh: Humm... You're right, and that is not an aspect I have thought of yet... In that sense Delrith wasn't summoned, and those zombies were not summoned... That is very interesting. And another thought if Maglinguis doesn't summon that means that those wizards existed before... But I'm not about to go into that, back to the WOM. The whole idea with no runes sorta makes me think back to the whole WOM might have been a wizard and he was the wizard that taught the moon clan. He was taught to do magic without runes, and how to make new spells with out runes. That is why he could cast all those spells in the bank. (watch the security video) The secret society were the ones who invented the runes. They made them so that only certain spells could be used. The WOM was about to be trusted with summoning and runecrafting when he was booted out for some reason. (maybe the fire) (I am going back in history to the original wizard tower.) Also at this time and would like to ask that please only post comments relevant to the discussion at hand. I am not trying to flame any one though. And also this is a topic that requires thinking, so if you aren't trying say something important please don't post. (If you don't have anything good to say don't say anything at all.) What has become of the runescape community???? :wall:There is a community? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCHughes Posted December 21, 2006 Author Share Posted December 21, 2006 The secret society were the ones who invented the runes. They made them so that only certain spells could be used. The WOM was about to be trusted with summoning and runecrafting when he was booted out for some reason. (maybe the fire) (I am going back in history to the original wizard tower.) Sounds like... The history in the knowledge base says that there was some meeting between Sara's and Zammy's mages, but Zammy's mages "betrayed" them and they destroyed the Tower. I'm convinced that Zamorak's mages had an inside man in the Tower that let them in. You think the mole might have been WOM? I mean, the Zamorak mages could have bought him off. WOM seems pretty obsessed with wealth (see: bank robbery), so he probably could have been bribed easily. the russians are the best! Hands down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCHughes Posted December 21, 2006 Author Share Posted December 21, 2006 Off Topic: I just found out, the Zaros symbol seems to look quite similar to the one that the 'Zodiac Killer' used to sign his letters... Just something I noticed. I think that was originally just the Rose Cross. But it is identical to the Zaros symbol, accidentally or purposely? Hmm. I don't think people can find the topic since I changed the name. Now it's Investigating the Wise Old Man. the russians are the best! Hands down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1alebcay Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 You think the mole might have been WOM? I mean, the Zamorak mages could have bought him off. WOM seems pretty obsessed with wealth (see: bank robbery), so he probably could have been bribed easily. Ooohh... So in that the theory this is what happened: 1. What's is face (the guy that graffitied the Zammy temple) Becomes a wizard in the Wizard's tower. 2. He gains a high enough rank to learn that spells can be made with out runes. 3. He declines the chance to study on Entra 4. He is bought off by the Zammy Wizards. 5. He is told that he will learn how to learn new things. (Summoning, Runecrafting, and the society.) 6. He tells the Zammy wizards 7. The Zammy wizards burn down the tower in their confrontation to find out what this is about. 8. He is thrown out as a traitor. 9. He goes to the Moon Clan (remember how they are outcasts?) 10. He adventures some more (and at one point even finishes off the Kalphite queen by himself.) (Remember Swan Song) 11. He settles down in Draynor calling himself the WOM 12. He robs the bank 13. In the bank he finds things that remind him of his old days in the wizard tower. (Like rune Essence?) 14. He turns his focus (literally) to the Wizards tower (and also Trailborn is the only original wizard who still survives)(Or also Mizgog (the guy that sends you on imp cacher)(didn't Trailborn send you on imp catcher, I could have sworn he did) could also be a surviving wizard. If you notice on the floor in front of him there is a many pointed star. He is the one who sends you after the beads...) Humm... this all seems fairly logical. (Correct me if I am wrong any where) What has become of the runescape community???? :wall:There is a community? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randox Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 How could I have forgoten about the many pointed star #-o . It's a penticle! or at least I think it is :-k . ANy way a penticle is used in sommoning, normally to control your summons (the bartamaus trilogy examplifys this perfectly I might add). Has anyone else seen many pointed stars/ penticles on the floor, they could indicate someone with sommoning powers, and it might be important. (anyone wondering, necromancers wouldnt need them so there harder to spot, and if someone wants to check WOM house for a penticle it might be a clue :pray: ) I confirmed. Its a summoning penticle, and there is no penticle in the WOM house. Now, the drawings in the house are interesting. As best as I can make them out using varius angles, one piece of paper on the floor is a floor map/blueprint (it is on both floors and there identicle), one - in orange - is maby some runeic symbols (it also appears once on each floor). there is one that is only on ground floor and I dont know what to call it, 3 parts aranged in asort of circular shape. On th ewall behind the WOM is a crude map showing 2 buildings and a path between them, maby a travel or escape root :-k . Thats it for tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenarox Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 if you go north from post khazard along the coat their is a necromancer that summons 13 zombies, he also has a apprentice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedidude77 Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 I REALLY! appriciate this post, read most of the main theories, im glad other people r so intruiged by him as well JAGEX NEEDS to make a mini quest or quest that reveals more about him *shakes in chair with excitement* There's no such thing as "wireless." Just really long extension cords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randox Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 Ive turned up some starnge things after afew minutes of investigateing the WOM house. He has floor plans, maps wwith trails (sort of like a tresure map or escape route maby), a smily face on one of the papers on the first floor. What really shocked me was a prooper look at his armour. I always thought it was rune (g), its not. Its a combonation of 2 armours its both rune (g) and god armour saradomin (saradomin armour with all the white parts in gold). I would take this as final confirmation that the WOM is still on saradomins side, and not to be bought off by zamorak. However it has also occured to me that although zammorackian mages burt the tower, it is never stated that the tower is loyal to saradomin, or guthix. I will check the tower now for any sign of its alligence. edit: Ok when you first enter, there is a mat with the star of saradomin repeted 3 times. But I have found no other reerence to saradomin. The windows are really odd, someone who knows symbols in religion or mythology might want to look at them, they could be important. also there is something on the grounod right infront of the stars on teh ground floor, might be a symbol too. From the history of 'magicks' I would conclude that magic is not related to religion except for zamakorian mages. I belive that magic was something mortals were not meant to have and all the gods are mad that we have it. and cheack out the weird symbol on the front of the towre by the groundfloor entrance to tower Hope this stuff helps. Also ther eis a picture of the king, i will now check to see if I can find ties to varrock ok the banner in the basment of towere has some symbols relating to: saradomin, combat (multiway combat symbol). thats all i could figure out. I did find the same thing on the floor of the castle as in the tower by stairs on first floor, but i belive it to be garbage. I also found the same banner I was trying to discover the symbology of. also the same table with identicle blue objects as in seriodors room. My conclusion: The tower ha sno major link to any god by symbol and only a small link to saradomin. But the banner is undoubtubly a link to varrock. And varrock has 3 major reocuring symbols. They are the symbopl of varrock (duh), the symbol of misthalin, and the symbol of saradomin. I belive this link is responsible for the symbol (and alter for that mater) of saradomin being in the wizard tower. The tower is affiliated with saradomin via its link to varrock. So at some level im sure the tower serves the city of varrock and the rest of the kingdom of misthalin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCHughes Posted December 22, 2006 Author Share Posted December 22, 2006 The symbol in the tower is a dodecagram because it has 12 points, but it has the same meaning as a pentacle. the russians are the best! Hands down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffyG10 Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 OK I read up to page 6 than skipped to the last page, but here are some things I found intresting: I noticed a dark knight respawn nowhere near any others, could he be working 4 or even a spy 4 WOM? Here is The WOM chat WOM:Greetings, [RSN] -What would you like to say- Is there anything i can do 4 u? Could you check my bank for junk? I've got some thing I'd like you to look at. I'd just like to ask a question. YOU:Is there anything i can do 4 u? WOM:Thanks but i don't need anything doing on non-members worlds(I F2P) YOU:Could you check my bank for junk? WOM:Certinanly, mind you i can only look for stuff from non-members quests. -nothing important there but why only non-mem quests?- YOU:I've got some thing I'd like you to look at. -click use item with WOM again he may say he can only identify from f2p quests, he will take 5 runes away from you if u use that with him YOU:I'd just like to ask a question. -This takes way to long so u can do it 4 your self If you ask him about the wilderness after blabing endlessly he says how you can learn the power of saradomin at Mage Arena he has Staff of Saradomian and uses Sarodiman strike. Try drawing a strait North line from his house. Does it go through Mage Arena? When u look through the telescope the image is shattered, is that the lens or something else? Also after looking through the telescope he admits it and blabs about his past he should be the weird old man! Outside Miss Schism has important things to say. On that one pic the red line runs strait through draynor manor could he have connections with the Draynor Famiy, or even be friends with the Vampire!!! This is quite addicting(sp?)! i hope these autoers are ready cause here comes tztok-JaGeX!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkarc5 Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 If you read his notes in the strange book, it doesn't seem like he really hates the wizards, but just that they don't share runes with him, and he wants to go get some, and says that they are weak. Also, FluffyG10 raises a good point, what is that black knight doing there, and why is he not aggressive like all the other ones? Another thing is that he says he studied in Entrana if you ask him about his history. One final point is that he says he doesn't need money anymore if u use some money on him RSN:Dark_Arcane5 P.S. if anyone knows an easy way to get up hunter from level 1-25, or farming from 9-25, p.m. meMysteries of the Wise Old Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffyG10 Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 Thanks 4 raising a point that i raised a point i hope these autoers are ready cause here comes tztok-JaGeX!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffyG10 Posted December 23, 2006 Share Posted December 23, 2006 and says that they are weak. Ya they are weak. Unless they keep their runes in the stomach of the lesser demon i wouldn't even need any food i hope these autoers are ready cause here comes tztok-JaGeX!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faisalhype Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 oh i though of something, take example of doomsavengers' graph and the poll of the week in the official rs homepage. It says that what happen to the king of falador, one said that he got kidnapped by the black knights and as you see on the graph the line goes through black knights fortress so the WOM must be upto something else aswell or this may be a part of his ''conspircy'' of the wizards tower.. plus when u do mini-quests for him, he either tells you to get the following item (could be need for his plot) or send letters to certain people (id say he's blackmailing..) what do you think? 1150+ total, 151 questpoints and 76 combat.. is it good? Plz pm me for your thoughts.Join the campaign for more F2P Bank space! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffyG10 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 What you said would make a lot more sence if i was P2P :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: i hope these autoers are ready cause here comes tztok-JaGeX!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCHughes Posted December 24, 2006 Author Share Posted December 24, 2006 oh i though of something, take example of doomsavengers' graph and the poll of the week in the official rs homepage. It says that what happen to the king of falador, one said that he got kidnapped by the black knights and as you see on the graph the line goes through black knights fortress so the WOM must be upto something else aswell or this may be a part of his ''conspircy'' of the wizards tower.. plus when u do mini-quests for him, he either tells you to get the following item (could be need for his plot) or send letters to certain people (id say he's blackmailing..) what do you think? King of Falador? Since when? the russians are the best! Hands down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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