Investigating the Wise Old Man

[KCHughes]

OK, I must have missed something important. What letter to the priest are we talking about?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I looked at the video and I noticed something I don't think I noticed before. When he mages people, they leave ashes, not bones. Members, when you use Saradomin strike on something does it leave ashes or bones?

[1alebcay]

 

 

 

and i would also like to know... what does *D mean... when he writes a letter...

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is our most elusive letter. I had trouble finding it also.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Joke slayer, That is a thought. The guy who is the master of imps had an acident to and he has a lesser demon... They are both dark wizards....

[KCHughes]

 

 

 

 

and i would also like to know... what does *D mean... when he writes a letter...

 

 

 

 

 

 

This is our most elusive letter. I had trouble finding it also.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Joke slayer, That is a thought. The guy who is the master of imps had an acident to and he has a lesser demon... They are both dark wizards....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wow, I didn't know there was a letter like that! 0_0 Council, eh? Sounds like they're trying to strong arm Father Lawrence a little. Could this be the society we were wondering about?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyway, when you use Saradomin strike against something, it will leave bones when it dies. However, when WOM used it, the things he killed left behind ashes instead. Maybe he didn't find out how to bind Saradomin's power illegally, maybe he just modified his spell. Or perhaps WOM can summon Saradomin's wrath more powerfully than others, maybe he is favored in Saradomin's eyes?

[Xewleer]

im going to investigate the wizards tower a bit, kill some mages etc... ill post any good results,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also i think that the silverlight thing need some research (ill help in that)

 

 

 

Edit- maybe sir tiffy cashien is involved?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

just in! the thing by the door is an evil eye decoration

 

 

 

there is a gnome here to learn human magics! and when you talk to him, you forget about the gnome stronghold, oh well...

 

 

 

wait, gnome magics?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

also, you can no longer attack grayzag or any other named wizard...

 

 

 

also! the wizard mizgog has a form of magic players do not have!

 

 

 

also there are locked drawers in bsement of wizards tower

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a book in the library seems to be the autobiography (?) of trailborn

 

 

 

more when i can get back on!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The wise old man, after unlocking the charos' ring ability says he has some important surveillance duties to carry out

 

 

 

Also the ring of charos how can he unlock it, using the coordinates, someone please find out if there are any points in morytania, esp. meyerditch there might be something there...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

also, sir prysin has a sword case, and in it, silverlight! hmmm...

 

 

 

why would he give it back for only 500 gp? :-s

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

if orcs wore pink tutus, would the world be a better place?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mrs schism sits next to shuttered windows, yet claims to be spying or whatever...

 

 

 

wom knows about zanaris, abyssal demons, and the abyss, he knows of the kbd the kalphite queen and the shiakanan (liek a lion), the jungles of karamja... and began (but did not finish to all appearence) tai bwo wannai trio, ring of wealth...

 

 

 

the dwarves... apparently the dwarves and humans did not think much of each other in the fourth age... brimhaven dungeon... Taverly dungeon (suggests as training spot!) understands anti potions, random events, Arrav (a suggestion some one show him the shield of arrav, could be informative) but does not know of his end Randas and the underground pass and the elves! He (obviously) knows the history of the wizards tower... he mentions the north... in conjunction with rune stones (northern continent perhaps?) Hazeel is known to him... menaphos and sophanem seen, but not entered, denies Zaros, 4 of the followers of zamorak.

 

 

 

majahrrat are from frenaskae... any ideas?

 

 

 

I went through all possible reactions and i got a random event for it...

 

 

 

I sold him the sword... sir prysin has it... maybe silverlight isnt all that rare?...

 

 

 

Bob the cat was in the WOMs house...

 

 

 

Thats all i have, sorry if its been already posted...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

thoughts: WOM seems to be heading towards the dark side a bit... Id lookout for it... he seems to have a complex for unrewarded service... (hey link from legend of zelda does it all the time, and does he complain? noooo does he talk? noooo) Also, any f2ps see the gnome?

 

 

 

But, most important of all... he knows what you are doing, like quest status and similar items...

 

 

 

Im a p2p player... all my results are from a p2p world (70)

[Xewleer]

bump! :D

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

anyway, could anyone tell us if any coordinates lead to morytania

[Darkluniux]

Simple:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The letter talks about someone with power that sigs with the letter "D".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

D=Dionissus

 

 

 

Dionissus=Wise old man's name.

 

 

 

WOM= Probably the chief of the society.

 

 

 

Society= ???

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, this is a council of saradominist what controles the priests and those stuffs.. It might mean if we traslate it to the real world... Is there a vatican? In this case a secret vatican.. And if it... Is the WOM the pope?

[Xewleer]

well... there are the temple knights, also, why does Sir Prysen have silverlight if the Wise Old Man has it?

[1alebcay]

As far as Sir Prysen goes... that is just a game thing that when ever you loose it you can get it back from him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As far as the WOM being evil, from what I can tell, he doesn't necessarily follow one god other than money. So maybe since he was so powerful he was bought off to take over the society and Sara's power. He also used the bank robbery as a cover up for him receiving his payment.

[KCHughes]

As far as the WOM being evil, from what I can tell, he doesn't necessarily follow one god other than money. So maybe since he was so powerful he was bought off to take over the society and Sara's power. He also used the bank robbery as a cover up for him receiving his payment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Whoa...when was this found out?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And I don't think the Runescape Papacy would let its pope wander around unprotected and rob banks. :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think if the Council of Saradominists was a papacy, more people would know it existed, and as of yet, we've only seen it mentioned once in a vague letter written by WOM. I'm more inclined to believe it's actually some kind of guardian organization trying to protect something. Think about it; why would WOM be so upset at Father Lawrence binge drinking? Lawrence is either a) defaming Saradomin, which would make the council more of a papacy, which is highly unlikely, or B) Lawrence is privy to something that the Council guards and his drunkenness threatens to expose it. Maybe Lawrence is a threat to the secrecy of the organization and WOM is trying to strong arm him into behaving.

[Randox]

I agree, the council is protecting something. also I'm quite sure that the WOM is a saradominest (the spell, the staff, the armour). I belive that the money this is the WOM seeking what he belives his rightful payment for helping out all those people. I would be willing to consider that the bank robery and the letter/council are not as closely related as we thought. Maby we stumbled onto another plot?

[Xewleer]

but still, a papacy? whos the pope, i think the W.O.M. is going rogue...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and after all... I think that this is setting stage for something far sinister.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Gnome magics, not introduced, but implied... any f2pers see that gnome mage? arent they usually guthixians?

[darkarc5]

the only things i've found out (and i haven't read everything in this topic so plz don't be mad if everything is already mentioned) he has 3 books: book of folklore, book on chickens and strange book... haven't ready any one of them... he has a blue party hat... sara suit of armor, and some kind of emerald necklace hanging from a candlabrum or something like that

 

 

 

and why can't you examine this map?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hmm that looks like a treasure trail map...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

About Saradomin Strike, can't you hit higher with charge (lvl 80 magic).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also i agree with darkliuniux saying that *D may mean Dionysus.

[Pure_Analogy]

This is my first foray into the mystery of the WOM, and, coincidentally, my first Tip.It post. But on my main account I've done Swan Song, etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was wondering if anyone had tried to follow up that map? Like, for instance, tried to find where that is? Maybe it's just being stupid, but there might be something more to that ol' map.

[1alebcay]

 

As far as the WOM being evil, from what I can tell, he doesn't necessarily follow one god other than money. So maybe since he was so powerful he was bought off to take over the society and Sara's power. He also used the bank robbery as a cover up for him receiving his payment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Whoa...when was this found out?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And I don't think the Runescape Papacy would let its pope wander around unprotected and rob banks. :lol:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think if the Council of Saradominists was a papacy, more people would know it existed, and as of yet, we've only seen it mentioned once in a vague letter written by WOM. I'm more inclined to believe it's actually some kind of guardian organization trying to protect something. Think about it; why would WOM be so upset at Father Lawrence binge drinking? Lawrence is either a) defaming Saradomin, which would make the council more of a papacy, which is highly unlikely, or B) Lawrence is privy to something that the Council guards and his drunkenness threatens to expose it. Maybe Lawrence is a threat to the secrecy of the organization and WOM is trying to strong arm him into behaving.

 

 

 

I'm refering to the post about what you see isn't necessarily what happened. If you notice the WOM seems to love money. (watch the video) To me it looks like he love $$$ more than anything else. So he could have been quite easily bought off. He was bought off and now he needs a way to cover it up. He makes a fake robbery of the bank.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why he was bought off? This is a little bit harder to answer, but I think since he was a powerful Saradomist that loved money more than Saradom they bought him off to take over the council. A follower of Zamorock couldn't do this because every one would find out, but if a Saradomist did it, it could work.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also the priest is near spilling the beans in his drunkenness and the WOM wants to shut him up.

[Randox]

I did a check on the map behind the WOM. Theres no match or semi-match in tresure trails. I'll huunt some more and see if I can figure out where it is. Looking at the world map I can find no match in road shape between things. I focused mainly on citys, castles, towers, and churches. It might mearly be a tresure map (or other type of map), that does not conform to any part of the world. (so we no he has a map of something).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, one of the pictures on the floor is a smily face. The other twou would seem to be detailed maps, one of which is definatly indoors.

[Xewleer]

what about the gnome mage!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

maybe there is something in the gnome basement...

 

 

 

did anyone read my report????

[1alebcay]

what about the gnome mage!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

maybe there is something in the gnome basement...

 

 

 

did anyone read my report????

 

 

 

No offense, but just because you post something here doesn't mean it has to be used. Look at some of my posts. (like the ones with pictures) I spent 5+ hours on that and nothing came of it. You don't have to make a big deal out of everything.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As far as the mage goes I don't think that he is really all that important.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As Randox said, I also couldn't find anything matching it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As far as this being a papacy goes, I don't think its that, I think it's more like what we were talking about when we were talking about Delrith. (A society that invented itself, and Sara blessed it.)

[Xewleer]

sigh, thats not what I meant,

 

 

 

gnome magics, the gnome is here to learn human magics!

 

 

 

and I'm sorry nothing ever came of those threads... and I agree with you

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But I think that gnomes are usually guthixians? correct? so why is he learning the magic of saradomin, in saradomist colors? answer that!

 

 

 

also that one wizard that summoned imps, I couldnt attack him! so that is very important! something is coming quicker now than before!

[Darkluniux]

Who said people can choice the pope? Maybe Dyonissus is just soo powerfull the saradominist council cannot do nothing..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Anyways, we already know a guardian organization, the Templar knights who have save dthe world more than one time (Solus Dellagar, evil brainwahshing slugs, etc...). However, maybe Dyonissus is a saradomnist fanatic who thinks... HE IS THE SON OF SARADOMIN! Yup, just like our friend Iban the Necromancer who claims to be son of Zamorak.

[Xewleer]

with all due respect... no, I think that guy is going rogue, he acted on his own volition, to what end, power and money. money first.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

proof, bank assault, letters I believe showing that friar lawrence knows he is going rogue, gnomes, recently appeared, are serving guthix, are here to see if balance is bending. mabe the WOM is majarrat? because he knows about them...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and another question remains answered how does he know what you do!!!!

[Randox]

I have found something interesting about the bank watching the WOM. the tree to the west of the draynor bank closest to the WOM house. There is a bank gaurd in that tree, and you can talk to him. Maby he reveals something on a members server? When you examine said tree, you get something about legs (you can see the gaurds legs). Does anyone have any ideas on why there is a picure of a smily face on the floor in the WOM house?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I am not sure that the human magics the gnome has come to learn are strickly saradomin magics. From what I know and have seen, magic is mearly something of the powers of the gods (something we were not intended to have I think) and knows no allegance to any god. The dark wizars that summon delrith use standard magics suggesting saradomin mages and zammorak mages use the same (or almost the same) spells. As for Guthix I dont know.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Im just throwing this out there but could the council be a government ruleing body (im just thinking, I have no evadence to support this)

[Xewleer]

but the gnome here is learning human magics! Human I think that there are separate kinds of mage per species, of all kinds. exp. the ogre magic worked on your character at the end of Forgettable Tale of a drunken dwarf. An over powered blast created the drunken dwarf. So in other words, maybe the wise old mans knows many kinds of magic?

[Silentsurf]

sigh, thats not what I meant,

 

 

 

also that one wizard that summoned imps, I couldnt attack him! so that is very important! something is coming quicker now than before!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think Jagex took the attack option away to stop lower level players from getting themselves killed when they accidently clicked "Attack Wizard Grayzag".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He was powerful. Possibly VERY POWERFUL. Possbily WOM's Rival. Possibly the only person who can summon. Possibly getting on WOM's nerves. WOM's would certainly like to kill him. He might try spying on Grayzag on the top floor of the wizards's tower with his telescope.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:-k

[Xewleer]

possicly, but you cant count out the delrith summoners, maybe a connection?

[Randox]

I dont think the WOM is a mage. In the readers comments in one of his books he says "...poxy mage scum". This would be an interesting comment if he were a mage. I'm not saying he has low magic lvls, he is definitly well versed in magic, but his gold trimmed sara armour would suggest he is primarily a warrior.