KCHughes Posted January 25, 2007 Author Share Posted January 25, 2007 Letter to father Lawrence in Varroc Despite our recent conversation on this matter, I hear that you are still often found in a less then sober condition. I am forced to give you the warning i gave u at the time: if you continue to indulge yourself in this manner, the Council will have no choice but to transfer you to Entrana where you can be supervised more carefully. I trust you will heed this message. *D I think this has been said, but wouldn't this mean that the "council" would be around Entrana? Probably. We're not sure what the full name of the Council is, but it seems to be something like Council of Saradominists, so Entrana is a likely location. the russians are the best! Hands down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCHughes Posted January 25, 2007 Author Share Posted January 25, 2007 I think it's about time I email Jagex. I'm going to state our theories and evidence and ask them for leads and additional information. Does anyone know the email address I can use? the russians are the best! Hands down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznmidget448 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 I think it's about time I email Jagex. I'm going to state our theories and evidence and ask them for leads and additional information. Does anyone know the email address I can use? You could just pm in game, but their e-mail is [email protected]. You're never gonna let this thread die, are you, lol :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xewleer Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 good luck with it man! But I doubt they will give anything definitive... or helpful, but I have been wrong before... Ever wonder why The WOM became a Saradomist...? I'll show you how terrifying a true Christian can be!It's Xewleer: ZEW le ar, got it memorized?Hermit of the Varrock Library and its proud guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingWenlok Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I noticed someone mentioned earlier about the wallpaper for the Wise Old Man, and how the eyes under the desk were wide apart- I had a look at other wallpapers, and found one of Bob facing off against the Kalphites. I compared the eye distance (visually), and it seemed to match. So, the thing under the Wise Old Man's desk could easily be a cat. Now, there seems to be an idea behind Zaros coming back, and I would like to ask a question- can Zaros possess people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aznmidget448 Posted January 26, 2007 Share Posted January 26, 2007 I noticed someone mentioned earlier about the wallpaper for the Wise Old Man, and how the eyes under the desk were wide apart- I had a look at other wallpapers, and found one of Bob facing off against the Kalphites. I compared the eye distance (visually), and it seemed to match. So, the thing under the Wise Old Man's desk could easily be a cat. Now, there seems to be an idea behind Zaros coming back, and I would like to ask a question- can Zaros possess people? Hmmm, maybe WOM was only on Saradomin's side because he was trying to destroy Zamorak, thinking that afterwards, he can betray Saradomin to have Zaros come back as a god :-s Hmmm... I'm not sure if it's a cat... What has yellow eyes? I'm pretty sure Bob doesn't... There's a weird object behind his table... Looks like a map, but what's on it? Looks sort of like a face to me. Oh, and the eyes under the table, there doesn't seem to be any shadow for the body. Beneath the table is only three shades of gray. Nothing else, not even the tiniest shade... Could these eyes possibly resemble something other than a cat? What's that weird bread stuff? I'm pretty sure it looks like rune ess :| Here's the picture of the WOM: In black is the map thing that I don't know what it is The eyes are in the red box And what I believe to be the ess is in the green box Is that little castle a picture of wizard tower? And what kind of armor is WOM wearing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCHughes Posted January 26, 2007 Author Share Posted January 26, 2007 ^The model on the desk is the Wizard's Tower, and the map is a floorplan of the tower. I think it's the first floor. the russians are the best! Hands down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sag2k Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 The WOM is wearing sara plate(g) and sara legs(g). I still wanna know whats under the bed :-k usually logged on,private may be on friends.They call me...Noob! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1alebcay Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Just thinking about the background, bob's last stand. In swan song (the quest) there is a cut scene of the WOM fighting Kalphites. Also isn't there something about the thing under his bed being a Kalphite? Also just thinking about the letters and some of our earlier ideas. As far as our idea that a group of Saradomists formed to stop the demon slayers goes, maybe Thurgo was the smith that made their sword, and maybe he also made the shield. What has become of the runescape community???? :wall:There is a community? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingWenlok Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 Hmmm... I'm not sure if it's a cat... What has yellow eyes? I'm pretty sure Bob doesn't... I never said it was Bob, just a cat. Possibly another Mahjarrat (maybe even Bob's agent)? Oh, and the eyes under the table, there doesn't seem to be any shadow for the body. Beneath the table is only three shades of gray. Nothing else, not even the tiniest shade... Could these eyes possibly resemble something other than a cat? If it was a Mahjarrat, surely it would have some magical power, and thus it might not have a shadow. If it did, it would be far too noticeable. I was sort of thinking that this 'thing' might be possessing the Wise Old Man, and using him as a sort of pawn on the chess board, slowly moving up to take the king (in this case, meaning the power to summon). I'm sure Bob would be pretty busy elsewhere, so that might be why he is using his agent to do the dirty work. I think there is something trapped in those ruins near Falador that Zaros wants, and he'll use the power of summoning to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randox Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Its nice to get a good view of the thing on the desk. It looks like a plane but the piece on the back would suggest (to me at least) that it is a submarine (a model one). I think that many of the objects are in some way related to the wizards tower, the model, map, and ess are the most obvious, but the armour is linked by the symbol of saradomin, so it stands to reason that the eyes are also linked to the tower. The only link I can think of (and this is going out on a limb) is the eye patern in the windows of the tower, but im sure that there is a better link. any ine got ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCHughes Posted January 28, 2007 Author Share Posted January 28, 2007 Look closely at the books on his desk. The spines have some kind of hieroglyphics on them. No response from Jagex in 3 days. Guess it didn't work. I'm going to try something more direct. the russians are the best! Hands down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingWenlok Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Look closely at the books on his desk. The spines have some kind of hieroglyphics on them. *Peers* One of them looks like that 'evil eye' symbol, which is supposedly also the Eye of Horus. I'm still trying to work out how it could be the Eye of Horus when it is said to be 'evil.' Either it's not or Jagex is very bad at history. :wink: No response from Jagex in 3 days. Guess it didn't work. I'm going to try something more direct. Oh well, it was a worth a try. You did your best. Anyway, I hear that penguin quest is coming out soon... hopefully some kind member will do it and reveal information about it here (if it has anything to do with the Wise Old Man that is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1alebcay Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Try to make a letter that you could send in for the postbag from the hedge idea. You would have to address it to a character (or maybe multiple characters) but you would probably have a greater chance of getting a response. Just thinking there are a lot of connections between Kalphites and the WOM/Bob. There was something about a Kalphite being under the WOM's bed (maybe) and also he fights a Kalphite in Swan's song. There is a picture of Bob cornered by Kalphites. By the way here is a picture of the runes on the books at 5x zoom. (I took the highest resolution image and magnified that part of it. I don't recognize any of them... What has become of the runescape community???? :wall:There is a community? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkluniux Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Try to make a letter that you could send in for the postbag from the hedge idea. You would have to address it to a character (or maybe multiple characters) but you would probably have a greater chance of getting a response. Just thinking there are a lot of connections between Kalphites and the WOM/Bob. There was something about a Kalphite being under the WOM's bed (maybe) and also he fights a Kalphite in Swan's song. There is a picture of Bob cornered by Kalphites. By the way here is a picture of the runes on the books at 5x zoom. (I took the highest resolution image and magnified that part of it. I don't recognize any of them... i recognise some... First one no idea, it looks like amathematical redical but different... Second one... Umm, it might reseble a peak.. A rune peak.. It might resemble the heavens? Third one: One of the most important! Look at it.. Donnot you remember something? What means for you the words "Compass and Ruler", or the words "Freedom, Equality and fraternity"? Yes, That "G" is clearly vissible.. Yup, G= God/Geometry.. The symbol of the Freemasons.. And if this is truth, our old friend is member of the stonecutters... Nah, he is surely member of the Knight Templars.. According to history, the Templar Knights were supossedly the fathers of the freemasonry. Four one: The saint grial. Yes, more relevance to the Knight Templars, my theory about a secret agent of the Templars is becoming powerfull.. Last one: An arrow.. I remember that in the Nordic runes there is a rune equal to an arrow, it was used by the SS (Yes, the military elite forces of the nazi third reich) along with other german/nordic symbols.. It appeared in the Honour rings.. Let me remember: TotemKoff (The skull) loyalty to the death, the arrow.. Power? Well.. If a book got a peak, a freemasons' symbol and sait grial... Lets think the peak is not a peak.. It is a piramid! Another importaNT symbol! The piramid resembles the power of the perfection, it ever goes to up, to heavens, to the perfection, to the absolutely power.. But if we add an eye it might become in the "all seeing eye", that resembles god.. Or the illuminati and their power to see all? So the first symbol maybe some sort of new mathematical symbol in runescape, that helps with geometry.. http://darkluniux.blogspot.comBehold my blog! Thou shalt visit it and rejoice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCHughes Posted January 29, 2007 Author Share Posted January 29, 2007 Connection! The 3rd symbol on the 1st book, the one that Dark says looks like the Freemason symbol, is identical to one of the symbols on the weird rocks in the circle NW of Falador! the russians are the best! Hands down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1alebcay Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Yup, I thought it did... Also I took the time to take one of my pure there and investigate. Here are a couple of interesting pictures. If you notice all the rocks are facing west, and only have symbols on their western sides. When examined they say "I wonder what ancient rites were performed here?" Oh yes I can confirm that that is a picture of the floor plan of the tower... Also on anther thought, that picture is shown in November's postbag from the hedge in a letter to Mrs. Schism. What I was thinking was how would she see him from that angle with out being inside the house. (Sure, this might be nitpicking, but that's what we have been doing all along.) I looked at what they released for the Penguin quest and there doesn't seem to be anything of importance so far. Also did you try emailing our ideas to the postbag from the hedge account? ([email protected]) What has become of the runescape community???? :wall:There is a community? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkluniux Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 The image talks for itself, that's my pure account investigating the site.. Yes, i know it's name is very cool, It is Baphomet, and no, it is not for Ragnarok online! It is for err... You better investigate it yourself. Anyways, as you can see, our character thinks that it must be buried.. And is very suspicius it is not! So.. It is not buries and with a scimmitar in his hand too.. protect... But ther emust be someone who keeps it in.. Why the wizards didn`t removed it? Because that skull is important.. Why someone adept to the necromancing will follow the path of Saradomin? Perpaph a Zamorak follower inside the nucleus? http://darkluniux.blogspot.comBehold my blog! Thou shalt visit it and rejoice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCHughes Posted January 29, 2007 Author Share Posted January 29, 2007 I think it would be good if some of us wrote letters to some of the NPCs WOM wrote his letters to. We should elude to WOM only just a little bit, so we can get some information but not make Jagex think that we're on to them. If we write several letters chances are good that at least 1 of them will get answered. Does anyone want to help? the russians are the best! Hands down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkluniux Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 I think it would be good if some of us wrote letters to some of the NPCs WOM wrote his letters to. We should elude to WOM only just a little bit, so we can get some information but not make Jagex think that we're on to them. If we write several letters chances are good that at least 1 of them will get answered. Does anyone want to help? I gonna make Reldo talk, for the good or for the bad.. He might know some about the runes that resembles the elements, and aditionally Jagex is surely doing some riddle to play with us, i mean, it is not considential to put THAT rune in that book and in THAT stone... Anyways, as one wise old man said: No one expects the Spanish Inquisition! http://darkluniux.blogspot.comBehold my blog! Thou shalt visit it and rejoice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCHughes Posted January 30, 2007 Author Share Posted January 30, 2007 OK, Dark has Reldo, does anyone want Oracle, Father Lawrence, Abbott Langley, or Thurgo? I'm going to write to Father Aereck. I need to finish some business. *cracks knuckles* Remember, in spite of all the questions we may have, keep the letters as light as possible so Joker* doesn't think we know too much. Joker=Jagex. We can't let them know we're onto them. They browse these forums, after all. Mizgog is being done. the russians are the best! Hands down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingWenlok Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Curious... the one on the left appears to bear the symbol of an air rune- either connected with the nearby air altar, or possibly a reference to the elements, in particular air. The one on the right... is that the Freemason one of which you speak? Can't say much more about it really, though it looks much more like the Eye of Sauron to me. And as for the one in the middle, obviously a sun of some sort. Yet it is split in two. Either some colossal power used to (or still does at certain times) smash out of the middle and into the sky, or something cracked it. But what? And was it trying to tap into it, or escape it? Regardless, the fact that it is a sun broke in two makes it seem all very apocalyptic. And if it is a Freemason symbol on the right one, the Wise Old Man is linked no matter what anyone says. I mean, a book with the same symbol as the one on that weird rock appearing in the WOM's house is not just a coincidence. Hopefully you are right in the connection KCHughes, as I'm sure it is going to help somehow. Thanks for the information on the penguins 1alebcay, and the images. Oh, and I've had a crazy idea- has anyone ever tried using a Staff of Zamorak on the weird rocks? If not, would anyone mind giving it a go? Thanks (and don't blame me if you blow up half of RuneScape :lol: ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkluniux Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Curious... the one on the left appears to bear the symbol of an air rune- either connected with the nearby air altar, or possibly a reference to the elements, in particular air. The one on the right... is that the Freemason one of which you speak? Can't say much more about it really, though it looks much more like the Eye of Sauron to me. And as for the one in the middle, obviously a sun of some sort. Yet it is split in two. Either some colossal power used to (or still does at certain times) smash out of the middle and into the sky, or something cracked it. But what? And was it trying to tap into it, or escape it? Regardless, the fact that it is a sun broke in two makes it seem all very apocalyptic. And if it is a Freemason symbol on the right one, the Wise Old Man is linked no matter what anyone says. I mean, a book with the same symbol as the one on that weird rock appearing in the WOM's house is not just a coincidence. Hopefully you are right in the connection KCHughes, as I'm sure it is going to help somehow. Thanks for the information on the penguins 1alebcay, and the images. Oh, and I've had a crazy idea- has anyone ever tried using a Staff of Zamorak on the weird rocks? If not, would anyone mind giving it a go? Thanks (and don't blame me if you blow up half of RuneScape :lol: ). Notice the Shapes of the rocks.. I mean, one is divided while other are with holes... If we see it is more accidental than iccidental, so it mught be the time destroying this acient temple.. Well, as i see it, they are stone triangles that might resem something, i think, this altar might be related to osme of kind of magic related to rangers, because Jagex hates them soo much, ops sorry, i mean, Jagex relates make sthem the opossite of the mage, if this is truth, ther emight be a new form of attack related to magic and attack, because if we look prayer, the piramids are related to The mage, and the Eye to the ranger, so this formation with an "Sauron eye".. Sauron eye? I know you like the lord of rings, but never say it again.. Might be a place wich a ranger becomes maste rof magic and mage master of rangin.. Just imagine.. There is a weapon that combines the melee and the ranged attacks, and guess what? It was invented supossedly by saradomin monks in the quest "Devious minds", and guess what!?!?! In the end of the quest the monk that teach you how to make an sword capable of shooting arrows gets killed, while a rogue kills some monks in entrana and robs the crystal that the monk gave you.. So, the rogue kills the hooded monk and trips trought the abyss to retrieve this magical crystal.. Why sould Saradominist monks play with magical artefacts and Swords that shoots arrows? We already knew about the crossbows that involves magic and ranged.. But there might be more combinations? Is the Old man trying to develop this weapon? http://darkluniux.blogspot.comBehold my blog! Thou shalt visit it and rejoice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkluniux Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Guess what? I wrote to Reldo, lets wait for the answer in a month. http://darkluniux.blogspot.comBehold my blog! Thou shalt visit it and rejoice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingWenlok Posted January 30, 2007 Share Posted January 30, 2007 Notice the Shapes of the rocks.. I mean, one is divided while other are with holes... To me, divided means 'broken' whilst things with holes in them makes me think of 'weakening.' So I was mainly considering the possibility that an incredible force lurks within these stones, but that force is already being slowly ripped apart (maybe one part of it has- the sun stone is broken in two). However, the other stones survive- I have the feeling that all these stones hold up RuneScape, in perfect balance of good, evil, the elements, and one other thing (what is that last stone?). If we see it is more accidental than iccidental, so it mught be the time destroying this acient temple.. Well, as i see it, they are stone triangles that might resem something, i think, this altar might be related to osme of kind of magic related to rangers, because Jagex hates them soo much, ops sorry, i mean, Jagex relates make sthem the opossite of the mage, if this is truth, ther emight be a new form of attack related to magic and attack, because if we look prayer, the piramids are related to The mage, and the Eye to the ranger Possibly. But these symbols seem to have been specially chosen, and two others bear symbols completely different to anything we've seen in RuneScape. Also, only one stone seems to be dedicated to that of the ranger, and these stones are not perect triangles- they are not even pyramid shaped! So that's a tad dead-ended. , so this formation with an "Sauron eye".. Sauron eye? I know you like the lord of rings, but never say it again. I call symbols which I think are related to things of evil 'Sauron's eye.' I don't see why you would have a problem with that. . Might be a place wich a ranger becomes maste rof magic and mage master of rangin.. Just imagine.. There is a weapon that combines the melee and the ranged attacks, and guess what? It was invented supossedly by saradomin monks in the quest "Devious minds", and guess what!?!?! In the end of the quest the monk that teach you how to make an sword capable of shooting arrows gets killed, while a rogue kills some monks in entrana and robs the crystal that the monk gave you.. So, the rogue kills the hooded monk and trips trought the abyss to retrieve this magical crystal.. Why sould Saradominist monks play with magical artefacts and Swords that shoots arrows? We already knew about the crossbows that involves magic and ranged.. But there might be more combinations? Is the Old man trying to develop this weapon? Weapon combinations? Well, that might play a part in it somewhere, but I really think these stones are ten times more important than combining combat skills together. Of course, the energy in these stones might be able to do it though... great, I'm having an argument in my head. Though if you are correct, maybe Zaros is trying to harness this power to create a suped-up army? These are truly dark times. Okay, if you want to know what I think these stones really represent, here it is: The Sun- the will of good (light) The Eye- the will of evil (dark) The Waves (squiggly lines)- the power of the elements Unknown symbol- (please tell me if you think you know what it is) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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