Troll Bomber Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I'm looking into camping Tavelry black demons with melee + cannon after I finish my 10k Glacor kills to get 99 ranged. I'd appreciate it if someone could provide me with the following: Effigy RateKill RateCharm RateXP Rate (primarily ranged xp)CostIdeal setup (considering using urns for pray but not sure yet)Thanks. EDIT: I used the ranged calculator on tip.it to see how many I'd need to kill with cannon not including melee, and it was ~8.3k demons. I'm not sure what the melee damage to ranged damage ratio is, but would it be safe to assume roughly half and half (~16.5k demons total)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallstar Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Are you assuming that you can pay full attention all the time? Will you be using turmoil and extremes? Asmodean <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Bomber Posted December 15, 2011 Author Share Posted December 15, 2011 Are you assuming that you can pay full attention all the time? Will you be using turmoil and extremes?I will be paying full attention, and be using turmoil + ovls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I'd say that crawlers > black demons, but otherwise:250 kph (use ranged)110 crims/hr800-1000k gp/hr lostVoid, handcannon~110 minutes per effigy120k xp/hr Crawlers would be:900 kph2m gp/hr lostArma, hand cannon, fsh65 minutes per effigy250k xp/hr Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Delu Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Using pps or soa would be better than using ranged or melee iirc. 2496 total achieved June 30, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Bomber Posted December 15, 2011 Author Share Posted December 15, 2011 I'd say that crawlers > black demons, but otherwise:250 kph (use ranged)110 crims/hr800-1000k gp/hr lostVoid, handcannon~110 minutes per effigy120k xp/hr Crawlers would be:900 kph2m gp/hr lostArma, hand cannon, fsh65 minutes per effigy250k xp/hrI remembered crawlers just after making the topic and started to consider them also, but didn't know the cost/hr. Is your crawler data including steel titan while ranging crawlers with arma and handcannon + dwarf multicannon? I thought 65 mins/effigy was based off of multicannon + maxed melee gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPMC Mate Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Does this mean the effigy drops from Cave Crawlers beats the Crim Charms you'd get from Black Demons? Really? Cause as I recall it was you who was the one cussing me at base. Also, re-read what you just said: one 15 second delay (which is an exaggeration to begin with) ruins floor times? You are beyond ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Does this mean the effigy drops from Cave Crawlers beats the Crim Charms you'd get from Black Demons?Not for pure summoning xp, no, but for collateral agility xp etc. it probably does. @OP: I'm not sure on the damage of titan/hc, it can be 200k xp/hr or 250k xp/hr without titan. Your cannon should be around 150k xp/hr. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfield Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Since I see you're 90 fletching, one thing you could do is cannon black demons while fletching (you can hide behind some dirt things and refill cannon every 10 sets of broad arrows). That way, you maximize range xp, and it's still not bad k/h (about 180). You would want to maximize your range attack if doing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPMC Mate Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 If he's just going to hide and not atk at all, it would be best if he used max Melee bonus as it depends on highest bonuses, not ranged atk bonus. Really? Cause as I recall it was you who was the one cussing me at base. Also, re-read what you just said: one 15 second delay (which is an exaggeration to begin with) ruins floor times? You are beyond ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfield Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 If he's just going to hide and not atk at all, it would be best if he used max Melee bonus as it depends on highest bonuses, not ranged atk bonus. well most people can achieve higher ranged attack than they can melee bonuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blyaunte Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 It's late and I'm a little bleary-eyed -- is the OP planning on Yakking the ashes or using urns? :unsure: That will affect rates, will it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPMC Mate Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Since he has the lvl for a Yak, I'd assume he is planning on Yakking the bones. Really? Cause as I recall it was you who was the one cussing me at base. Also, re-read what you just said: one 15 second delay (which is an exaggeration to begin with) ruins floor times? You are beyond ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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