The Back Room

[The_Mather1]

Icu, Britain has more than 100 times as many people as Norway, so per capita is not viable in showing release.

 

Also I found this:

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Archi, 51 tonnes are released in Norway annually, 1 million tonnes are stored anually.

 

Hmmm

 

An American bomb dropped on a school kills 40 children and 6 adults.

An American hospital saves 5,000 people.

 

 

Ergo, its ok to bomb schools.

[The_Mather1]

No, because we cannot avoid emission, and it also means we're covering your asses by 99949 tonnes.

[Icuownage]

Isn't per capita an average per person?

 

I'm not exactly sure what it means

 

But that would show that the average British man is better for the environment than the average Norwiegen man

[Retech]

I don't think you understand the meaning of per capita... We've had this discussion before.

[Resistance]

Icu, Britain has more than 100 times as many people as Norway, so per capita is not viable in showing release.

The point of per capita is that it is perfectly viable when countrys have different populations.

 

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Archi, I think this area is very good to initiate the roleplay:

 

I've been reading about the history and its perfect, thankyou :).

[The_Mather1]

Icu, it is total emission divided by population, so that's including power generation and production.

 

Res, we're major exporters of almost all our resources, so what is produced here is more likely to be bought by someone abroad.

[archimage_a]

No, because we cannot avoid emission, and it also means we're covering your asses by 99949 tonnes.

 

You can't avoid taking supplements?

 

Are you allergic vegetables and fruit? Are you entirely incapable of eating lettace? Do you have a crippling illness that means that supplements are your only way of gaining the vitamins an minerals...

 

 

 

As for 'covering my backside'. My carbonfoot print is negative, so actually you aren't.

On a personal level, I am covering your wanton emissions...and personally, I don't want to have my hard work in reducing my carbon emissions offset by you being too lazy and narrow minded to pick up an apple once in a while and eat it.

[Icuownage]

So why's that a bad way to show? Wouldn't it take more generation to have enough for the larger population?

 

Also storing emissions? What do you mean?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_capture_and_storage#Norway

[The_Mather1]

I am likely to vomit if I try eating it so yes, kinda.

 

Archi, ok, so we are covering 1,099,949 tonnes of your asses. Statoil is actually the ones storing the million tonnes previously mentioned.

[Icuownage]

Oh that whole storing it under the ocean crap?

 

Yeah that is one thing I seriously do not agree with, ever since I have heard of it. I just know it will be released again and it's just delaying the problem.

[archimage_a]

Sigh...

 

'If I didn't go out raping, then I would probably go out murdering. So its ok.'

 

 

No Mather, you are not actually allergic, you are uncomfortable...and you know something, too, the hell, flipping, bad.

You sit there all high and mighty 'My country absorbs a million tonnes a year', great, I commend your country, but you, personally, do NOTHING towards that.

You are no better than the fat American who thinks TV remotes are not just convienient, but vital to the continuation of life.

[The_Mather1]

I'm not saying I'm doing something to reduce emissions, but I am way bellow average cause of it.

I may be sitting on my ass the entire day, but unlike the vast majority of people my age, I don't go to the city every week and I don't go to a party at least once a month.

I may not be working against it, but at least I'm not a major contributor.

 

Icu, it's stored in the rocks way deep, not just in pockets so if all goes well it stays there.

[Resistance]

How do we feel about choosing a team (Christian/Muslim) and then going on that?

[Icuownage]

It's been done, and people always betray.

[archimage_a]

And yet a tiny change to your life could save a tiny fraction more carbon.

And that tiny change you make today you might pass on to your children, and your children's children....Or your neighbours, or your friends, or anyone else you meet.

 

And thus that tiny change has the potential to make a much larger change possible.

 

 

 

Whatever Mather.

You carry on doing nothing, letting other people, people like me, shield you from the harsh reality of your actions, suffering through the minor inconvienancies of not taking a pill every few hours...

You carry on depending on other people solve the problems you create. Be they burying nuclear waste or sequestering carbon from the atomsphere. Don't you take responsibility...

[Resistance]

It's been done, and people always betray.

Well I suppose thats all part of the fun :)

[The_Mather1]

Don't try to make me feel guilty, aim it at someone who actually matters on the international scale. Just by counting the plants on my property I would pretty much be carbon neutral. I only do two things that release carbon; breathe and drive, and I intend to continue doing both of them.

 

Actually, if you really want Norway to lose even more of what is considered to be our responsibility, talk to your government, you buy most of our oil.

[Icuownage]

Eh just cause buy something from you doesn't give you rights to say you're saving the planet...

 

I mean you're the people drilling the oil in the first place! You're the people who actually allow it to be used... Perhaps your exporting of oil counteracts that storage?

[archimage_a]

Mather, you are responsible on an international scale.

 

You vote.

You produce carbon.

 

You are blaming me for you buying pills, not apples?

 

What do you want me to do, exactly?

March into the House of Commons and say:

'I am one of 70 million people who live in this country. I know that you probably have lots of conflicting interests...like people buying pills instead of eating apples because they are lazy and narrowminded...but I think you should stop buying oil from Norway.'

 

 

 

Your view typifies why, for over 50 years, carbon emissions per capita have not declined, but have actually increased...People shrugging, pointing at a pot plant and saying 'What can I do? Talk to the Government. This is their problem.'

[Resistance]

Archimage, why do you have a questionare in Space? Does it decide anything or is it just for fun?

[archimage_a]

Fun and fact finding.

 

If people give silly answers I know they will be silly, if they give serious answers I can summise they will be serious.

[Resistance]

Ah okay,

 

I see how that could be helpful when creating missions.

[The_Mather1]

As you just said, neither of us can change the mind of our governments, however unlike you I plan to make a difference, just not by doing their dirty work.