Ugune Herb Farming

[brad1431]

Do I use a farming juju to farm the ugune seed?

[Lord Paul]

Pick your first ugune herb, make it into the juju potion, drink it, and then finish picking the remainder of the ugune plant. (optional: farm the other patches after)

 

If you don't have the scroll of cleansing yet, definitely get it asap.

[Zaaps1]

Pick your first ugune herb, make it into the juju potion, drink it, and then finish picking the remainder of the ugune plant. (optional: farm the other patches after)

 

If you don't have the scroll of cleansing yet, definitely get it asap.

 

and scroll of life

 

if you have other juju farming pots in your bank skip that first step about picking 1 herb, but thats common sense

[brad1431]

I have one of the scrolls, the one that gives you 10% chance of getting seed back. I dont have the other one. I HATE DG more than anything else in RS. I am level 73 purely by jack of trades, weekly tears, lamps, and even some of my lamps from effigies

[brad1431]

does that mean the answer is yes? I assume so , as if I use one dose of farming juju and it gets me even one more ugane herb, that is an extra 2 doses that I net.

[Arien]

Yea its recommended to do so specially if you're looking to farm a huge amount of them.

[Sy_Accursed]

Yup averaged out farming juju gives 33% (aka 1/3) better herb yields.

The only way for it to not be worth it is some how you managed to not get more than 1 extra herb every 3 patches, which is just not possible.

 

You should be getting 1-2 herbs more per patch (when averaged out) which at a cost of 1 herb per 3 harvests works out great, especially using both patches patches.

 

Example:

Say you average herb yield is 6 per patch, juju takes that to 8.

So first round, using just the 1 patch.

No juju gives 6 herbs, juju gives 7 (1 taken away for making the pot)

Second harvest would take you to 12 vs 15

Third harvest 18 vs 23

4th harvest 24 vs 30 (took 1 for new pot)

 

Use both patches and the numbers are even nicer

12 against 15

24 against 31

36 against 47

etc.

 

To make it even more worthwhile you can do a normal herb run with 1 of the juju herb patches (doing both is tricky in the 5mins) so that you get nice profits from the normal herbs + the juju herbs for use later.

And of top of that you can even pay to protect the central juju herb patch so you avoid all deaths, and for Erzille (the hunter juju) and Ugune (farming juju) the cost isn't bad at all 3 green and 3 blue vine blossoms respectively. Both fast to grow and very cheap at 10gp a seed.

[Lord Paul]

The only way for it to not be worth it is some how you managed to not get more than 1 extra herb every 3 patches, which is just not possible.

 

 

Wait.... what?

[Sy_Accursed]

The only way for it to not be worth it is some how you managed to not get more than 1 extra herb every 3 patches, which is just not possible.

 

 

Wait.... what?

farming juju = 3 doses

1 dose = 5mins

If you just farm 1 patch of juju herbs it's 1 dose per harvest you only need the juju effect to earn 1 herb in 3 patches to break even on making the potion, 2+ to better off; which given average herb yields its virtually impossible to not do better than that.

[Kimberly]

The only way for it to not be worth it is some how you managed to not get more than 1 extra herb every 3 patches, which is just not possible.

 

 

Wait.... what?

farming juju = 3 doses

1 dose = 5mins

If you just farm 1 patch of juju herbs it's 1 dose per harvest you only need the juju effect to earn 1 herb in 3 patches to break even on making the potion, 2+ to better off; which given average herb yields its virtually impossible to not do better than that.

 

I think what you're trying to say is that:

 

If you're starting your farming run at the HH patch, using an ugune dose and moving on to 4 other patches, then what you harvest as a "bonus" from your other patches should be over 3 to compensate for not using the effect on your Trollheim patch. (excluding Remote Farm/Trollheim Lunar Tele) So, to make it worth the 'sacrifice' of excluding one of your money-making patches from your run, you should hope to harvest at least 3-6 bonus herbs for it to be "worthwhile" to start your run at HH.

 

But to say that you will 'break even' on making the potion is needlessly confusing; you're not harvesting 4 different ugune patches. The average harvest is 8 roughly, true, but you are very likely to harvest less ugune than that regardless of the juju boost. It is very possible to not get any bonus hits with the juju, especially when you add patch deaths into consideration, so also saying it's "virtually impossible to not do better" isn't always correct.

[Sy_Accursed]

No.

What I'm saying is if you farmed just the one HH patch you need to earn 1 extra herb in 3 harvests to make the potion break even. As it takes 1 herb to make 3 doses, so 1 extra herb in 3 uses = same as not having made the pot.

Anything more than that and you have benefited from making the potion due to extra herbs. Seeing how it is virtually impossible to not achieve this the potions are worth using even to just farm Ugune.

 

Which is what my original post then expanded upon with other patches etc etc.

Essentially it was a way of saying: It is impossible for using juju to not be worth it.

[Kimberly]

No.

What I'm saying is if you farmed just the one HH patch you need to earn 1 extra herb in 3 harvests to make the potion break even. As it takes 1 herb to make 3 doses, so 1 extra herb in 3 uses = same as not having made the pot.

Anything more than that and you have benefited from making the potion due to extra herbs. Seeing how it is virtually impossible to not achieve this the potions are worth using even to just farm Ugune.

 

Which is what my original post then expanded upon with other patches etc etc.

Essentially it was a way of saying: It is impossible for using juju to not be worth it.

 

But you're not guaranteed to get a bonus herb in 3 picks, so your conclusion is wrong and doesn't adequately explain the bonuses offered by the juju boost.

[Sy_Accursed]

I know its not guaranteed, but if you read my original post you'll see I was referring to the averaged out effect of 33% more herbs; Lord_Paul only took 1 sentence out of my entire post so it does lose some contextual meaning.

[Kimberly]

I know its not guaranteed, but if you read my original post you'll see I was referring to the averaged out effect of 33% more herbs; Lord_Paul only took 1 sentence out of my entire post so it does lose some contextual meaning.

 

I don't think what you were thinking translated to what you posted though. Because of the repeated mentioning of what you would need to "break even" in the timespan of what you repeatedly mentioned to be 3 harvests, it didn't make sense. Now that you explained it better, I see what you're saying.

[Lord Paul]

Well, actually I was commenting on the fact that you said "which is just not possible". You've since explained yourself better.

 

Anyways, until you get up a large stock of ugune potions, make sure that they don't die; they're too rare until you start hunting draconics+commons. I have just a bit under 600 doses left out of my original 1800.