Barraging Rock Lobsters

[Blutters]

I've decided to finally stop dicking around and just get 99 Summoning over with, hopefully this weekend.

 

Is there an up-to-date guide somewhere? I did a quick search and there are a ton of threads but none really seemed tailored to my gear or levels, probably because most people just go to CT...

However, I'm pretty dead-set on Rock Lobsters. I have Hati Paws I'd like to use on this and most mage gear while not much melee gear or otherwise.

The Tip.it MH guide seems pretty outdated, but I'm guessing it's still good for the luring methods, just not inventory or gear.

 

Aside from that, does the throwing axe on the doors even work anymore?

And, what does one do if one does die? I seem to remember there being a FC that would help get you back in in a timely manner, but know little to nothing about it.

[Bad911]

Err...

Two options for equipment, either battle robe setup or max magic bonus setup.

Staff of light

Infinity boots

Barrows gloves (or the hati ones)

Seers helmet

Either Battle robes or Ahrims

Tome of Frost or unholy

Use this if you don't have something on the list: http://www.tip.it/ru...item&stats=true

 

Things to keep in mind...

Fury is better than ASN which is better than Glory since ASN only boosts magic attacks to single targets and not collateral.

 

Use prayer boosting gear for luring and to slow down the drain on battle robes (if you're using them). Prosy, stoles, god books.

 

Magic potions, I hear they're meh. Vecna skull if you want to get one.

 

Healing food to get there, but otherwise, bring some blood runes for blood bursting health.

 

Saradomin Godsword is best, restores prayer and health.

 

Holy wrench, you can get back from the braindeath island dude on the west side.

 

Battle robes aren't worth it (for bursting) unless you barrage or like doing FoG.

 

Smoke barrage if you can't ice barrage.

 

Getting there:

Join Burstinglobs Friend Chat. Their homeworld is 66, it's listed in the chat (just incase it changes). You need three people minimum. You can bring the rune thrownaxe for the spec if you want, but it isn't necessary. If you die, tell them in the chat and someone should be on site to bless it. Bring some food (maybe a familiar the first time, and 1-2 pieces once you get the hang of prayer switching). Learn the route first, I suggest, but you can wing it too. Luring the 9 spot is best, you'll have to learn how to do that yourself, or you can use the 7 spot which is farther and worse.

 

Sorry for the mess, too many thoughts.

 

E: I didn't find the guide on Tip adequate, even the luring part. A lot of useless fluff, I can take you for a trip if you want, just one though.

[Artemis1330]

gear= max mage (I'd probably go with void elite also after you use hati)

invo= runes for barrage/burst + blood burst/barrage

p pots for all other slots.

do not take pray gear to swap into for luring, waste of space. As you see in the video below, you pray for just a few seconds per lure.

 

Vid is old, but just update gear for current max mage. Not sure how void elite would compare to virtus, you'd have to test it.

 

 

edit- guy above even recommends pray gear for lures and a sgs, but it's a waste of space and time. Pray gear will not save what 3-4 p pots can provide unless you absolutley suck at luring. As you can see in the vid, I don't even start praying until i get nearly all 9 lobs on me.

[Bad911]

gear= max mage (I'd probably go with void elite also after you use hait)

invo= runes for barrage/burst + blood burst/barrage

p pots for all other slots.

do not take pray gear to swap into for luring, waste of space. As you see in the video below, you pray for just a few seconds per lure.

 

Vid is old, but jus tupdate gear for current max mage. Not sure how void elite would compare to virtus, you'd have to test it.

 

edit- guy above even recommends pray gear for lures and a sgs, but it's a waste of space and time. Pray gear will not save what 3-4 p pots can provide unless you absolutley suck at luring. As you can see in the vid, I don't even start praying until i get nearly all 9 lobs on me.

What a terrible lure. That spot is bad and you won't even last more than 2 hours even with all those potions. You're also going to risk dying quite a bit.

 

Beacon or lunar ring, ring of wealth....there really isn't any loot except the pure ess and water talismans to loot. You will get plenty of those that you won't have space for them.

 

EDIT: I consider that a bad lure because if you don't kill the group on time, you will have rock lobsters spawning on top of you which will really make that spot a bad place.

[Blutters]

Was about to ask about the ring actually. Is RoL no good? Does it not save you? I have Seers(I) if not. I actually don't have Virtus, but I do have Gano, but could get Ahrim's or... Akrisae's? I'm not really sure how prayer bonus importance compares to magic bonus but I have sw cape and ragefires etc...

[Artemis1330]

I did not die once there personally. I can't recall exactly how long I could stay, as it's been a few years, but well over 2 hours..

 

That spot is the best spot to lure to. If a lob spawns there and attacks, and if I remember correctly you will only get attacked by one lob, it's not a big deal. You do not even have to pray. Luring all the way to the ladder adds a significant amount of time.

 

about the ROW, ROW has a very positive effect on charm drops. It increases blue slightly, increases crimson, decreases gold and green.

 

Although I would not recommend you wear one at things like waterfiends, which pretty much only drop crimson. For rock lobs it is a very positive effect. I used to have hard data comparing ROW vs no ROW, but have since lost it.

 

At the time of the video there was no mobilising armies, so I am not sure if seers (i) would be better now or not.

[Fallstar]

Thats not where you lure them. There is a spot where you dont get attacked.

You basically stand at the side of the wedge of rock, rather than behind it. There are no spawns that can attack you here.

Also with prayer renewals and flasks, you can effectively stay as long as you like. I did a 6+ hour trip and used only 2 flasks of prayer renewal (which is why you take a prayer boosting set as well). In addition, the +1 magic attack from the fury over an ASN isn't worth the loss of 15% damage even against a single lobster, bearing in mind the rock lobsters are extremely weak to magic attacks.

 

http://puu.sh/jdZ0

 

If the video shows you standing at the blue spot to attack the lobsters, you want to stand in the red spot.

[Quyneax]

Fury has 4 less magic attack than asn so I don't know what you're on about :P.

 

Max mage is nice, soul wars cape + maybe demon horn necklace/proselyte for luring, battle robes are worth it if you want some placeholder hybrid gloves (and at 3m/hr I think).

[The_Fray]

Battle robes are definitely worth getting like Quyneax said, you will be improving your chances at hybrid gloves as well. I think they are pretty cheap in the GE as well, I bought my set for significantly less than mid. The luring method is still the same, use proselyte to lure because that way your robes are not degrading as much. Dont need blood barrage either as you can use soul split to heal all damage in two 2-3 casts.

Oh yes just use the tip.it guide to learn how to lure, it is really easy.

[Fallstar]

Got mixed up, fury has +10 mage attack and +15 defence. So yeah you really want to get an ASN, its only 30k tokens and you'll use it all the time.

[Blutters]

Battle robes are definitely worth getting like Quyneax said, you will be improving your chances at hybrid gloves as well. I think they are pretty cheap in the GE as well, I bought my set for significantly less than mid. The luring method is still the same, use proselyte to lure because that way your robes are not degrading as much. Dont need blood barrage either as you can use soul split to heal all damage in two 2-3 casts.

Oh yes just use the tip.it guide to learn how to lure, it is really easy.

Wait, how do you take damage if you pray while luring? Or were there Dagannoths there?

Funny, I never really went through Waterbirth, usually stopping at the first room to cannon Wallasalkies and for Blood Runs Deep. Not that that's very relevant lol.

 

Honestly I have enough Hybrid gloves and only need 3k crimsons, but you get lots of other charms too so I doubt Gano will even break in the time I need it. I will use SoL and Tome of Frost instead of Chaotic Staff though of course.

 

Thanks everyone for your help, just because I didn't respond doesn't mean I haven't considered every post here. :) There are a few conflicting things though lol...

[set=head:11861,cape:9044,neck:9897,weapon:9071,body:11863,shield:9754,legs:11862,gloves:10865,boots:11699,ring:8733]

So this set up, then runes, pray pots (maybe flasks, I have a bunch lol)... Obligatory 1-click teleport, should I really worry about prossy? - Holy Wrench is probably worth it, especially if I do use flasks... Not really sure about the prayer renewals now.

Vecna's Skull for all the boost it will give me I'm sure.

Should I be using ROW?

Join burstinglobs, follow tip.it's luring guide.

[Quyneax]

Ganodermic is 100% not worth it, use Ahrim's or even your necromancer gear (looks matter!). Vecna's is useless, row is useless, wrench is ok, flasks not worth it, sol is worth it, tome is worth it if you have spare tokens I guess (but dg xp is technically better to buy).

[Artemis1330]

Row increases crims and blues and decreases golds and greens at rock lobs, having a more positive effect then the mage bonus of seers ring. I don't know if seers (i) would be better then row, however I would guess not. And yea, gano is pointless. So is pray gear for luring. Prayer renewals are most likely also a waste.

[JmmyV2]

Row increases crims and blues and decreases golds and greens at rock lobs

 

Actually got any evidence of this? As far as I am aware, this is not the case.

[Artemis1330]

Used to have alot of notes and data, was lost on old computer and has been lost on any forum I had posted it on, as it was posted 2008/2009. People typically do not notice, as most npcs camped for charms drop primarily one type, fiends and crimsons for example. For an npc such as rock lobsters, which do not drop primarily one type of charm (although yes they do drop alot of crimsons), it does have a positive effect. Anyway, this is hearsay as I have no data any longer to back it up and all I can do is recommend people try it. However I personally did about 20m mage xp at lobs myself, and the data I had was also collected from others.

[Bad911]

I did not die once there personally. I can't recall exactly how long I could stay, as it's been a few years, but well over 2 hours..

 

That spot is the best spot to lure to. If a lob spawns there and attacks, and if I remember correctly you will only get attacked by one lob, it's not a big deal. You do not even have to pray. Luring all the way to the ladder adds a significant amount of time.

 

about the ROW, ROW has a very positive effect on charm drops. It increases blue slightly, increases crimson, decreases gold and green.

 

Although I would not recommend you wear one at things like waterfiends, which pretty much only drop crimson. For rock lobs it is a very positive effect. I used to have hard data comparing ROW vs no ROW, but have since lost it.

 

At the time of the video there was no mobilising armies, so I am not sure if seers (i) would be better now or not.

You do realize that everything in that area is relative right? Whether you lure to the ladder or from the ladder, you're still luring the same amount of distance. In your case, you're creating more work and actually doing it a lot slower. The best spot is still the ladder because there is little room for mistakes and it allows you to fix your mistakes easily. It's also the safest spot there and if you lure from the endpoint of the ladder, you can use the same lobster to gauge your bursting speed. This is all harder to explain without a video, but the point is your spot is a terrible spot.

 

And afaik ROW doesn't affect charm drops...

[Artemis1330]

Not going to argue with someone with 82 mage and 69 sum.

[Quyneax]

I lured at the southern corner. Get them stuck a bit further south, you will not aggro any lobsters just standing there.

[Fallstar]

The ladder is the worst spot from all of them to lure to, it being hard to make a mistake there doesn't make it good. It only takes a couple of tries to see how luring works, and if you do make a mistake somehow, just stick your prayer back on.