March 22, 201214 yr I really am struggling to see the benefits of dging past maybe 108 because I should have all the good rewards then. I honestly don't see much use in all of the rewards. Right now I have the chaotic rapier, chaotic crossbow, chaotic shield, coal bag, gem bag, bonecrusher, longbow sight, scroll of cleansing, scroll of life, scroll of augury, scroll of rigour, scroll of renewal, arcane stream necklace, spirit cape and soon to be buying eagle-eye kiteshield and the chaotic maul. If anyone would mind helping create a list of dg rewards that I haven't bought with benefits that would seem interesting, even to just you, please go ahead I would greatly appreciate the feedback. I guess this is something of a motivation seeking thread for myself. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog!
March 22, 201214 yr Scroll of efficiency is nice for people below 99 smithing/going for smithing xp, less so since Artisan's is competetive now but still.Chaotic staff is nice for glacors and ice strykes. Celestial surgebox also.Placeholder bonecruncher/arcane stream necklace can't hurt. If you're desperate, either spent tokens on xp or try to entirely max your ring (that's like 3.6m tokens). Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted
March 22, 201214 yr Author Scroll of efficiency is nice for people below 99 smithing/going for smithing xp, less so since Artisan's is competetive now but still.Chaotic staff is nice for glacors and ice strykes. Celestial surgebox also.Placeholder bonecruncher/arcane stream necklace can't hurt. If you're desperate, either spent tokens on xp or try to entirely max your ring (that's like 3.6m tokens).I'm looking to spend tokens for usability and while your placeholder and maxing ring suggestions are great ideas they really only should be done later when tokens are accrued and there are really no other good buys. I guess I'm trying to figure out all the niche uses for all the dg rewards so I know what to get. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog!
March 22, 201214 yr As I recall you're maxed except for dg so I assume you're intending to get 120. If thats the case you're going to have a lot of spare tokens even after gettibg everything.
March 22, 201214 yr Author As I recall you're maxed except for dg so I assume you're intending to get 120. If thats the case you're going to have a lot of spare tokens even after gettibg everything.I know I will, but I also need some motivation to get there and this is why I'm trying to find uses to some of these other dg rewards. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog!
March 22, 201214 yr All chaotic weapons/shields, bonecrusher/herbicide, spirit cape, arcane stream, surgebox, T10 berserker/blazer/desperado, rest on XP.
March 22, 201214 yr Author All chaotic weapons/shields, bonecrusher/herbicide, spirit cape, arcane stream, surgebox, T10 berserker/blazer/desperado, rest on XP.Look at you being all beast and stuff lol. I do like this one... What about the other rewards? Personal opinion interests me as to why you exclude others. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog!
March 22, 201214 yr All chaotic weapons/shields, bonecrusher/herbicide, spirit cape, arcane stream, surgebox, T10 berserker/blazer/desperado, rest on XP.Look at you being all beast and stuff lol. I do like this one... What about the other rewards? Personal opinion interests me as to why you exclude others.Others are just simply obsolete :razz:, like the necklaces for example, it's more "efficient" to use a fury for the faster kills -> thus saving you the prayer points via killing faster rather than from the benefits of the necklace. Gravite stuff is useless unless you wish to F2P PK. Mercenary gloves only +1 range over barrows gloves but 0 defence bonuses, swift gloves +1 over mercenary. Only thing I forgot in my list is the prayers, you need those for comp cape.
March 22, 201214 yr Author All chaotic weapons/shields, bonecrusher/herbicide, spirit cape, arcane stream, surgebox, T10 berserker/blazer/desperado, rest on XP.Look at you being all beast and stuff lol. I do like this one... What about the other rewards? Personal opinion interests me as to why you exclude others.Others are just simply obsolete :razz:, like the necklaces for example, it's more "efficient" to use a fury for the faster kills -> thus saving you the prayer points via killing faster rather than from the benefits of the necklace. Gravite stuff is useless unless you wish to F2P PK. Mercenary gloves only +1 range over barrows gloves but 0 defence bonuses, swift gloves +1 over mercenary. Only thing I forgot in my list is the prayers, you need those for comp cape.Which I do have everything for comp cape other than 120 dg. Your list seems good to me both for items and the sake of efficiently saving myself time by using tokens on xp. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog!
March 22, 201214 yr Author Is it worth getting cls over cr; cs over sol when i prefer cash saving over raw dps? Niches for usability of both? Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog!
March 22, 201214 yr Is it worth getting cls over cr; cs over sol when i prefer cash saving over raw dps? Niches for usability of both?CLS is useless if you have rapier + maul, CS is alot better than SOL ( CS has+20% damage boost). Maul = bossing, PVP (c wars, soul wars, wilderness etc),CS = Glacors, PVP (same above) Obviously if you don't do any of the above activities, they won't really be of much use to you. But you never know what Jagex plans to release in future that might make maul/CS alot more useful than it is currently. I'd still purchase them closer to 120 as I'd rather have them than just 400k XP which is an hours worth of Occult floors. Your main priority should be T10 Berserker/Blazer and make sure to save enough tokens at all times for T10 desp incase you come across a Hex.
March 22, 201214 yr There's the argument that the improvement of accuracy due to having a cls over a rapier is better on a small number of cannon heavy tasks. But that's dubious whether the cls is better anyway, and even if it is the difference won't be noticeable. I'd get it just because you will have the tokens to spend and it looks nice :shades: Asmodean <3
March 22, 201214 yr Author Ok so you make a good point in getting cm and cs, but out of those and fks what would your priority list look like for slaying/pvm and would you care to explain a bit? My priorities are cm, cs and fks, but I still need to buy herbicide, t9, t10 berserker, t1-10 blazer and desperado. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog!
March 22, 201214 yr Ok so you make a good point in getting cm and cs, but out of those and fks what would your priority list look like for slaying/pvm and would you care to explain a bit? My priorities are cm, cs and fks, but I still need to buy herbicide, t9, t10 berserker, t1-10 blazer and desperado.T10 BerserkerGet up to around T8 BlazerHerbicideCMT10 BlazerCSFKST10 Desp Although I'm assuming you're mainly gonna be dunging and not much else for the time being? If that's the case, just get T10 zerk/blazer before anything else. And obviouslyif you manage to find a Hex, T10 Desp should be your number 1 priority after T10 Berserker.
March 22, 201214 yr Author I don't like playing the leader much so I don't really key though I could. I have friends who key and I just play handyman and have prom 2h, ssh and primal plate bound.. Why should I get blazer? I'm just curious because I don't foresee maging much? Other than misunderstanding the priority of the blazer I think I see where your going with the lineup and I agree with it for the most part. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog!
March 22, 201214 yr I don't like playing the leader much so I don't really key though I could. I have friends who key and I just play handyman and have prom 2h, ssh and primal plate bound.. Why should I get blazer? I'm just curious because I don't foresee maging much? Other than misunderstanding the priority of the blazer I think I see where your going with the lineup and I agree with it for the most part.Laws are a pretty "selfish" bind unless you suicide key, having a surgebox bound helps tremendously for floor times for maging T8+ warriors, high level brutes/demons/some bosses. If you don't plan on binding a surgebox/maging then you have no use for Blazer so just personal preferance :)
March 22, 201214 yr Author I don't like playing the leader much so I don't really key though I could. I have friends who key and I just play handyman and have prom 2h, ssh and primal plate bound.. Why should I get blazer? I'm just curious because I don't foresee maging much? Other than misunderstanding the priority of the blazer I think I see where your going with the lineup and I agree with it for the most part.Laws are a pretty "selfish" bind unless you suicide key, having a surgebox bound helps tremendously for floor times for maging T8+ warriors, high level brutes/demons/some bosses. If you don't plan on binding a surgebox/maging then you have no use for Blazer so just personal preferance :)I was told to think about binding laws as a dgers handicap until I got confident in running fast dungs. I guess I could break them for a csb. I ritually buy essence for comics so I guess I could just modify for laws as well. Seems a bit hard to manage getting the money for both at times though, but I'm sure I'll manage. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog!
March 22, 201214 yr If you only have a small amount of ess at the start, just make 10 (x2) cosmics and 20 laws, gate ht, loot runes/coins and then tele back to make them when you can :) The rooms near ht give LOADS of coins in monster drops anyway. CSB is definitely worth binding Blog of DG, Bossing (mostly Glacors) and stuff - Runetrack Play Safe! - Got useful information for the tip.it website? Post here!
March 22, 201214 yr I very rarely don't have plenty of cash from the starting room, but I still have laws bound as I haven't even seen a CSB :huh: Asmodean <3
March 22, 201214 yr I don't like playing the leader much so I don't really key though I could. I have friends who key and I just play handyman and have prom 2h, ssh and primal plate bound.. Why should I get blazer? I'm just curious because I don't foresee maging much? Other than misunderstanding the priority of the blazer I think I see where your going with the lineup and I agree with it for the most part.Laws are a pretty "selfish" bind unless you suicide key, having a surgebox bound helps tremendously for floor times for maging T8+ warriors, high level brutes/demons/some bosses. If you don't plan on binding a surgebox/maging then you have no use for Blazer so just personal preferance :)I was told to think about binding laws as a dgers handicap until I got confident in running fast dungs. I guess I could break them for a csb. I ritually buy essence for comics so I guess I could just modify for laws as well. Seems a bit hard to manage getting the money for both at times though, but I'm sure I'll manage.As Octarine stated, if by somehow you don't manage to get enough ess at the start just temp gate base, loot some coins or ess and if/once you're idle tele back to your gate and craft the runes. If you do get a CSB bound, make sure to find a Primal baxe and swap it out with Primal 2h at 113.
March 22, 201214 yr Author I see them fairly commonly. I suppose if you deliberately killed all t8+ mages you'd find one in a couple floors. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog!
March 22, 201214 yr Author I don't like playing the leader much so I don't really key though I could. I have friends who key and I just play handyman and have prom 2h, ssh and primal plate bound.. Why should I get blazer? I'm just curious because I don't foresee maging much? Other than misunderstanding the priority of the blazer I think I see where your going with the lineup and I agree with it for the most part.Laws are a pretty "selfish" bind unless you suicide key, having a surgebox bound helps tremendously for floor times for maging T8+ warriors, high level brutes/demons/some bosses. If you don't plan on binding a surgebox/maging then you have no use for Blazer so just personal preferance :)I was told to think about binding laws as a dgers handicap until I got confident in running fast dungs. I guess I could break them for a csb. I ritually buy essence for comics so I guess I could just modify for laws as well. Seems a bit hard to manage getting the money for both at times though, but I'm sure I'll manage.As Octarine stated, if by somehow you don't manage to get enough ess at the start just temp gate base, loot some coins or ess and if/once you're idle tele back to your gate and craft the runes. If you do get a CSB bound, make sure to find a Primal baxe and swap it out with Primal 2h at 113.I keep seeing conflicting opinions between primal baxe and prom 2h. Which really is better and what's the info on both? Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog!
March 22, 201214 yr Even without a CSb, I was told a primal b axe was a better weapon bind than a prom 2h anyway. There's a spreadsheet with the dps data with DGS somewhere, one of them sent me the link once but I lost it. Asmodean <3
March 22, 201214 yr Xpwaste 3rd Bind Guide That guide gives a great outline of pba vs 2h, and its worth a read for if you decide to change your third bind anyway :) Basially pba performs better when targetting low defence stuff, and 2h is better on the high defence stuff. CSB is great with pba as most of the high defence things can be maged well :) Blog of DG, Bossing (mostly Glacors) and stuff - Runetrack Play Safe! - Got useful information for the tip.it website? Post here!
March 22, 201214 yr Found it https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AldEhLOK6ejJdHhvTFc4SVNIQkxoSnR4VnVsSTNIeUE#gid=3 Asmodean <3
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