Weapon for waterfiends

[Dusk Souls]

I am planning on using the Mad Necklace on summoning; but I need some charms so I am planning to hit the waterfiends for while. I was using black D'hide+Neizt helm; but I recently got the melee void helm and I think it might be better for them, in any case I am not sure if I am using the best weapon.

 

I am currently using a Verac's flail because I don't have the stats for a chaotic maul, the cash to buy a Sara sword or the CL and quest points for a Goliath gloves. I've heard that Torag's hammers are better; but I am not sure I've also consider getting an Ancient staff+Ddef.

 

So what would be the best option for me considering my stats? (points to sig)

[Powerfrog]

Bandos godsword is the best option until you can afford SS/ZS

 

Barrelchest Anchor is better than torag's hammer (Which are slightly better than veracs, just FYI)

 

Goliaths > Maul > Rapier > Full dharok's > SS > ZS > BGS > Anchor > Torag's > Verac's

 

Dharok's has potential to beat goliaths but because of overkill and the difficulty of using it effectively I've put it where it is...

[Dusk Souls]

I would need to quest a bit for the Barrelchest anchor and I also can't buy a BGS; but some questing does sounds nice as I have been mostly skilling for the past month.

[Hedgehog]

Bandos godsword is the best option until you can afford SS/ZS

 

Barrelchest Anchor is better than torag's hammer (Which are slightly better than veracs, just FYI)

 

Goliaths > Maul > Rapier > Full dharok's > SS > ZS > BGS > Anchor > Torag's > Verac's

 

Dharok's has potential to beat goliaths but because of overkill and the difficulty of using it effectively I've put it where it is...

You should justify your claims, rather than posting without any proof.

[Powerfrog]

Bandos godsword is the best option until you can afford SS/ZS

 

Barrelchest Anchor is better than torag's hammer (Which are slightly better than veracs, just FYI)

 

Goliaths > Maul > Rapier > Full dharok's > SS > ZS > BGS > Anchor > Torag's > Verac's

 

Dharok's has potential to beat goliaths but because of overkill and the difficulty of using it effectively I've put it where it is...

You should justify your claims, rather than posting without any proof.

Nope.

 

See something wrong, you can be helpful and disprove it, or at least bring it up specifically so i can explain my reasoning, instead of being vague and difficult. I'm just giving a general guideline on the best choices, a lot of them come close and have different attack speeds making it hard to be precise so it might be possible they're slightly out of order, i don't think that they are, though.

[Hedgehog]

Bandos godsword is the best option until you can afford SS/ZS

 

Barrelchest Anchor is better than torag's hammer (Which are slightly better than veracs, just FYI)

 

Goliaths > Maul > Rapier > Full dharok's > SS > ZS > BGS > Anchor > Torag's > Verac's

 

Dharok's has potential to beat goliaths but because of overkill and the difficulty of using it effectively I've put it where it is...

You should justify your claims, rather than posting without any proof.

Nope.

 

See something wrong, you can be helpful and disprove it, or at least bring it up specifically so i can explain my reasoning, instead of being vague and difficult. I'm just giving a general guideline on the best choices, a lot of them come close and have different attack speeds making it hard to be precise so it might be possible they're slightly out of order, i don't think that they are, though.

Was just hoping you'd have done a bit of research before posting something like that (and being so sure about it too).

[Cheat]

I think the order of precidence that he gave is fairly well accepted by most people - I doubt when just posting some friendly advice he can be bothered to give sources and large bodies of research for all his advice. I think if you feel theres something wrong you should say so and give your reasoning behind that.

For instance if I tell you that a Ferrari is faster than a Mondeo its a generally accepted fact - I don't expect to qoute you both their road speed tests. Bad example perhaps but basically - lay off son.

[Vezon Dash]

I would personally never use Dharok's at WFS. First of all, the ranged attacks would still hit you fairly often at ~70 defense... I don't know what that is honestly included in that list.

 

Also, Cheat... You are insulting one of Tip.It's more knowledgeable players...

[Hedgehog]

DH is generally the best dps in the game, especially at wfs where the monster is crush-weak. It shouldn't be hard to stay at 300-400 lp.

[Vezon Dash]

DH is generally the best dps in the game, especially at wfs where the monster is crush-weak. It shouldn't be hard to stay at 300-400 lp.

 

But wouldn't it just be better to use Goliath's at that point, especially if you are on task?

[Platinum_Myr]

DH is generally the best dps in the game, especially at wfs where the monster is crush-weak. It shouldn't be hard to stay at 300-400 lp.

 

But wouldn't it just be better to use Goliath's at that point, especially if you are on task?

 

Yes, but I think the OP said "no goliaths".

[Th e Doctor]

Bandos godsword is the best option until you can afford SS/ZS

 

Barrelchest Anchor is better than torag's hammer (Which are slightly better than veracs, just FYI) Spend the two hours it takes to make the money for a zs or ss over a BGS because the BGS is never worth using outside of niche places where the spec is used to lower a monsters defense (i.e. corp, dag sentinels).

 

Goliaths > Maul > Rapier > Full dharok's > SS > ZS > BGS > Anchor > Torag's > Verac's

 

Dharok's has potential to beat goliaths but because of overkill and the difficulty of using it effectively I've put it where it is... it doesn't

 

FIFY

 

Honestly, BGS is 2.9 mil and Sara sword is 4.3 (Zammy spear is 3.7). At 500 k an hour (easily attainable by any RS player) it's less than 3 hours to upgrade to either of these two vastly superior weapons. Let alone including the barrelchest anchor, torags, and veracs in your list. And at his attack level and only having access to chivalry a rapier is going to be nowhere near accurate enough to justify using it (especially given OP is only 56 dg and therefore has no chaotics at all).

 

What you posted was bad advice.

 

@The original questions of the OP...

 

Go make the cash for a zammy spear or get a friend to loan you one until you can afford one yourself. Sara sword is going to be about the same damage output, maybe a little less given your lower attack level. For the rest of your set up you're optimally going to want...

 

full void melee

Fury>glory

Dragon boots

Berserker Ring

Fire Cape >SW Cape > Ardy Cape (3) > God Cape (+10 mage def)

[Powerfrog]

Bandos godsword is the best option until you can afford SS/ZS

 

Barrelchest Anchor is better than torag's hammer (Which are slightly better than veracs, just FYI) Spend the two hours it takes to make the money for a zs or ss over a BGS because the BGS is never worth using outside of niche places where the spec is used to lower a monsters defense (i.e. corp, dag sentinels).

 

Goliaths > Maul > Rapier > Full dharok's > SS > ZS > BGS > Anchor > Torag's > Verac's

 

Dharok's has potential to beat goliaths but because of overkill and the difficulty of using it effectively I've put it where it is... it doesn't

What you posted was bad advice.

I told him what the best weapons were in order. It's common sense that he should aim for one of the better ones if they're affordable.

 

"Dragon longsword is better than rune mace, Dragon scimitar is better than Dragon longsword" quite clearly says that the scimitar is the best of the three, while giving another option in case he can't use that.

 

Edit: Oh, and it does. Perhaps you should look your facts up.

[Quyneax]

I think we've discussed this quite enough now. There's nothing wrong with listing raw information without evidence, provided you post it where it's relevant & you are able to back it up when asked (dps calcs are open to all, Hedgehog ;)). If we had to provide evidence every time we wouldn't get a tenth of the questions answered that we do now ;).