joey11223 Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Just wondering at what level tanking Waterfiends is viable over praying protect/deflect ranged? I'm killing them for a task right now and without prayer they don't seem to hit very hard... My stats being.. Att: 91Str: 92Def: 92 Wearing royal d hide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambler Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 If you have soul split, use it to heal, if not, protect range, you'll have to eat less, which is cheaper(food dependant), and increases dps.If you mean boosting prayers, you should always use them on task. Tiny cost for a huge dps boost.Also, doesn't Karil's have more mage defense than royal? :unsure: Probably doesn't matter much though. ^^My blog of EoC PvM, lols and Therapy.^^My livestream- Currently: Offline :(Offical Harpy Therapist of the Mad[hide=Lewtations]Barrows drops: Dharok's helm x2, Guthan's helm, Ahrim's top, Hood and skirt, Torag's hammers, Karils skirt, Karil's top, Torag's helm, Verac's skirt, Verac's Flail, Dharok's Platebody.Dag kings drops: Lost count! :wall:4k+ Glacors, 7 Ragefires, 4 Steadfasts, 4 Glaivens, 400+ shards![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 You forgot your magic level which is probably more important than defence level, and prayer level which is certainly more important.In general, soul split flash > protect prayer. But protect prayer > soul split non-flash. And protect prayer > food.If you're not in the chaos tunnels, soul split flash > bunyip > protect prayer + bunyip > food provided you can survive on a bunyip. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 I personally just soulsplit flick to heal, and if it gets a little hairy (Due to me afking) I'll flick between protect range and soulsplit to comfortably get close to max health again. I also use EEE because no other special is worth using. Always always use turmoil/piety on any thing you ever kill. Prayer restoration is cheap and compact in terms of inventory waste, theres no excuse not to use it. Edit: This is with iron titan in chaos tunnels. If you don't have titan just use a unicorn for healing and you shouldn't need to soulsplit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 ^That's not correct, outside ct Korasi's is worth using and on ct fiends claws or Korasi may be worth using. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerfrog Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 ^That's not correct, outside ct Korasi's is worth using and on ct fiends claws or Korasi may be worth using.Depends how much you value your ability to AFK, claws will increase the total charms/hour for sure but it's by such an insignificant amount that i don't personally find it worthwhile. If you're actively trying to "play" runescape and find higher APM better then go for it, but i kinda zone out when doing waterfiends :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Myr Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 As people have said before, it is very dependent on what you can access for healing methods. If you have ganodermic, you probably won't need to use protection prayers. Maxed since Sunday, January 9th, 2014Completionist since Wednesday, June 4th, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 Ganodermic is, however, more expensive than protect prayers. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 It's best to use bandos w/ a bunyip and occasionally ss in the ac. For ct fiends, pray mage while they're aggro and ss as necessary in bandos with an geyser/iron/steel titan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanRabbit Posted June 25, 2012 Share Posted June 25, 2012 To Pray or Not To Pray, the perennial question on the minds of the diligent, if naive, Runescape Adventurers. So much thought seeped into this question over the last decade. Flowing like boiled noodles of spaghetti from the heads of the players to the Central Bowl, which has filled silently with this excessively frugal concern. But enough! The Bowl is full! It cannot accept anymore of the same, tired thought, anymore of it's myriad phrasings and intonations. No, it has heard them all. And it must end now! (Really, it must: the bowl is filled to the brim with these ridiculous swimming thoughts). So with the grace with which the thought-noodles descended on the Bowl they will now be expelled, each departed to the head from where it came, but with a note attached: It is To Pray, To Pray, To Pray, To Pray. The answer will echo in all the minds, and the Bowl will once again rattle emptily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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