Rinc3Wind Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 So I've finally done it and got myself established in the Pincers. I unlocked all the steel ship upgrades, have a crew consisting of 5 morale, 5 combat, 6 SF, 2 oxhead, 4 JOD, and 3 merchants. I plan on replacing one JOD and one SF with a oxhead but I've been having a dry run of them lately. Anyways, I think now would be a good time for trying to get some goods, especially plate. I have all the scrolls for Tetsu, so my question is: Would it be worth it to get totems? I can afford to, but I'll run out of Jade and cherrywood completely by the end. And if so, what kind of totem, cherry tree or jade statue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I think an ideal setup would be using two telescopes and two jade statues. The 7% trade good and 7% scroll bonus chance outweighs going solely for one or predominantly another. When you are finished collecting either then just go purely on that one. In the end you might want to consider all jade statues when you are looking to make and sell things from ports. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I think telescopes are only moderately useful - you can only get one scroll per day anyway. 3:1 jade:telescope would be my recommendation. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinc3Wind Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 I think telescopes are only moderately useful - you can only get one scroll per day anyway. 3:1 jade:telescope would be my recommendation. So cherry tree isn't worth it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenw Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Not in the slightest, you will eventually be loaded with those resources a lot lot earlier than you would complete your scrolls or overload on trade goods 6,924th to 30 hunting, 13,394th to 30 summoning, 52,993rd to 30 DivinationKiln Record (Post-EoC): W 25 - L 0, 14 Uncut Onyx, 8 Jad hits received (Best record: Two in the same kiln)Obby set renewed post update #2: 0QBD drops: 21 crossbow parts, 3 Visages, 1 Kites, 2 KitsMax Port Score [2205] Achieved: 27th April 2013 (World 2nd) Farmyard Rampage ranking: 12th, 50,000 Kills. Dragon Pickaxe Drops: 1 (Times after I first entered Battlefield: 2h) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinc3Wind Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 Not in the slightest, you will eventually be loaded with those resources a lot lot earlier than you would complete your scrolls or overload on trade goods Thanks! Going for the 3:1 ratio (Jade:Telescope) that Quyneax suggested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiel Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 I feel like there's a lot of days even with 3 telescopes that I don't get scrolls. For me at least scrolls, not trade goods have been the limiting factor for getting armor, so I'd go 3 telescope:1 jade statue at least until you get all the scrolls you really want. DK drops (solo/LS): 66 hatchets, 14 archer rings, 13 berserker rings, 17 warrior rings, 12 seerculls, 13 mud staves, 7 seers ringsQBD drops: 1 kite, 2 visages, 4 dragonbone kits, 3 effigies, lots of crossbow partsCR vs. CLS threads always turn into discussions about penis size....It's not called a Compensation Longsword for nothing.I've sent a 12k combat mission to have Aiel assassinated (poor bastard isn't even Pincers-tier difficulty). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenw Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 It is ultimately up to a personal choice, the resources required for changing totems can be acquired in 2 days, or possibly even one, making regrets relatively painless compared to other possible regrets. I personally went for a very strange combination: 2 telescopes, 1 jade and 1 box (yes, Pandora's Box, I wanted to make sure I had the maximum chance of getting randoms, there were days where I didn't get any), and I was racing for scrolls more than trade goods. I now have 2 Jades, 1 Box and 1 Parrot. Don't ask 6,924th to 30 hunting, 13,394th to 30 summoning, 52,993rd to 30 DivinationKiln Record (Post-EoC): W 25 - L 0, 14 Uncut Onyx, 8 Jad hits received (Best record: Two in the same kiln)Obby set renewed post update #2: 0QBD drops: 21 crossbow parts, 3 Visages, 1 Kites, 2 KitsMax Port Score [2205] Achieved: 27th April 2013 (World 2nd) Farmyard Rampage ranking: 12th, 50,000 Kills. Dragon Pickaxe Drops: 1 (Times after I first entered Battlefield: 2h) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 @Aiel: The point is this:You have 17 chances at trade goods per day - two for adventurers, 15 for standard. You have one chance at a scroll. If you want the most useful voyages per day, increasing your trade good % is much better than increasing your scroll %. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiel Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 @Aiel: The point is this:You have 17 chances at trade goods per day - two for adventurers, 15 for standard. You have one chance at a scroll. If you want the most useful voyages per day, increasing your trade good % is much better than increasing your scroll %.but, assuming you care more about untradeable armor then scrimshaws/tradeable armor, scrolls are the limiting factor in how long it'll take you to get armor (at least for me). It doesn't really matter how fast the non-limiting factor (trade goods) is, the limiting factor (scrolls) still determines the overall rate. DK drops (solo/LS): 66 hatchets, 14 archer rings, 13 berserker rings, 17 warrior rings, 12 seerculls, 13 mud staves, 7 seers ringsQBD drops: 1 kite, 2 visages, 4 dragonbone kits, 3 effigies, lots of crossbow partsCR vs. CLS threads always turn into discussions about penis size....It's not called a Compensation Longsword for nothing.I've sent a 12k combat mission to have Aiel assassinated (poor bastard isn't even Pincers-tier difficulty). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 There's plenty of people on the POP thread who've done ports from day one, still don't have the sets and are hunting for that final 5/10/20 laquer. I wouldn't say scrolls are always the limiting factor, a lot of people choose to do them over absolutely any other voyage. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenw Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 It really depends on how you did your ports at the start of PoP. I for one started gathering scrolls since very early (as in Arc region early), and had completed all armor scrolls before reaching pincers, although I ended up about a month behind everyone else because I could not sent enough voyages to catch up, so the Trade goods ended up being the bottleneck for me. I didn't complete my armor sets until very recently. If you had 5 or less completed scrolls before you reach pincers, then I'd imagine you'd be Scrolls limited, otherwise you'd probably be Trade good limited. 6,924th to 30 hunting, 13,394th to 30 summoning, 52,993rd to 30 DivinationKiln Record (Post-EoC): W 25 - L 0, 14 Uncut Onyx, 8 Jad hits received (Best record: Two in the same kiln)Obby set renewed post update #2: 0QBD drops: 21 crossbow parts, 3 Visages, 1 Kites, 2 KitsMax Port Score [2205] Achieved: 27th April 2013 (World 2nd) Farmyard Rampage ranking: 12th, 50,000 Kills. Dragon Pickaxe Drops: 1 (Times after I first entered Battlefield: 2h) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinc3Wind Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 I have all my tetsu armor scrolls and that is all I really care about. Getting Death lotus and Sea singer scrolls are my second priority and getting scrimshaw scrolls will be a nice bonus but not needed. All I want to do is make some tetsu armor lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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