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In the past using an outside cheating program was against the rules, and for good reasons too.

 

However, since then you can now buy more treasure hunter keys.

 

Now let's say someone has trillion dollars and used it to buy them.

 

How is it fair that they'd be able to buy all the tickets within a day? Unfortunately cheating a bank account to get all that money is possible. I really don't see how that's any different from using programs not approved by Jagex. I still think it's cheating the system.

 

Don't worry I won't reply any further unless I had good counter-arguments which I probably won't since I'm taking a break. I'll just leave this thread and let the replies flow. Hope this brings a good discussion.



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Jagex's argument is simply that since it is something they sell, it is legal, even if it does give people with a lot of real life money an advantage should they choose to spend it this way. I'm not particularly happy with this status quo either but it is less detrimental to have people buying bonus XP than botting extra resources for their XP and making it more difficult for everyone else to try and harvest them, I guess.

 

Also the Treasure Chest is a minigame, part of the game, not an outside program - I am not sure what connection you are trying to make there, mind elaborating?


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Also the Treasure Chest is a minigame, part of the game, not an outside program - I am not sure what connection you are trying to make there, mind elaborating?

No I won't because I know I'll just make a bigger fool of myself than I already have.

 

Besides I already explained everything I wanted to say, and got nothing to add.



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This suggestion is bad there is no way anyone is gonna take it into consideration after what I've done recently.

This suggestion would have been good had I realized I was gonna mess up back in 2005, I really want to get a time machine and change that.

 

But what would be the point? Obviously my past self would be too stubborn to listen.



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This suggestion is bad there is no way anyone is gonna take it into consideration after what I've done recently.

This suggestion would have been good had I realized I was gonna mess up back in 2005, I really want to get a time machine and change that.

 

But what would be the point? Obviously my past self would be too stubborn to listen.

The rant is good, as the treasure chest is horrible for the game, aside from money perspectives.



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Alright I'm not afraid anymore, I was clearly in the wrong, and should have handled the situation better.

 

I have been explained in the past that they Jagex are not hypocrites for having that system, but then I talked about something irrelevant.

 

But I seriously gotta ask, how the hell can you get around the obvious hypocrisy with Jagex here? I honestly don't see how paying trillion real life money to get all 99 skills is any different from doing the same thing from disapproved source. To me they both damage the game equally, especially because they will undeservingly be at the top of people on the high scores that actually worked their ass of to get there. If you are the 100,000th player to get a 200M skill that's really a problem.



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some ex-clan member got almost 40m xp on saturday, not on skills they were already 99 in, from mid 80s in some cases, now maxed in a day. I have no idea how much real life well that is blown on it but from looking i'm guessing quite a daft amount. 

 

also still have a clan member who buys 1+ 99s each payday when there aren't promos like lamps on, i don't know much must be spent to get lamps to cover that (there are combats going like 50-99 without hp gains) :/

 

i just don't get it, i do however understand buying bonds with gp for a promo as theyre impossible without it, this is with things like fury shark and such. But that's there to force people into buying spins/increasing value of bonds so that more people are willing to buy.


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I agree that the Treasure Chest is a way for the people who are wealthy IRL to "get a leg up on" those who are not...it's not fair, to say the least.  People who cheat in a game are usually cheaters in real life too...this is just a fact.  Those without integrity online tend to be scoundrels IRL.  I get your rant and agree with it to a certain extent.  Treasure Hunter is better than the bots who stole resources in Old School RuneScape, even though I must admit to enjoying luring bots w/ Yew logs to Hobgoblins to have them killed and take everything they dropped.  Or killing bots near the Green Dragons in the Wilderness and taking their loot.  Those were some fun times, lol.  Still, point well taken.


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Probably because TH is randomized, and having extra Keys doesn't guarantee you'll get something good, it just increases the chances that you might.  Think of it like a casino slot machine; putting a trillion dollars into one of those won't guarantee that you get a jackpot, it just makes it more likely that you will.

On the other hand, cheating via real-world trading is paying x sum of money for a predictable, tangible in-game item that you can use to gain an unfair advantage over other players, and a trillion dollars would enable you to buy all of the advantages in terms of raw materials, tradeable weapons/armor, etc.  On top of that, it's been suggested that the money paid in real-world trading is often used to fund various criminal and terrorist elements, whereas paying money for extra Keys (or Bonds or whatever) goes directly to Jagex to help develop future game content.

Or, to look at the issue a different way, Jagex figures that people with money will use that money to gain an advantage in their game no matter what; by giving those players a safe, legal way to spend their real money for in-game material, Jagex is not only reaping the monetary benefit (which is then shared with the Community via better updates), they're also helping to shut down criminal enterprises across the planet while still helping wealthy players scratch that spending itch.


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I am proud of this, but I need to know is this the only good rant I have made so far? I can't think of any rant/suggestion that either didn't have misinformation or misconception on how things in the game actually work, which is the main reason I'm gonna post a lot less in this community now.


Edited by Blaze The Movie Fan, 16 August 2015 - 10:00 PM.





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