R.I.P.

[Carbinedevil]

I think he is on my MSN contact list. :|

[jetandre]

no parent should have to bury their children, and at such a young age.....

[Noobking239]

I agree that suicide is selfish for his close friends and family, but i have alot of sympathy for him, how can some of you flamers say that he hung himself just for runescape? Do you know him in real life? Well, he could have added that too one of his reasons, but i think there are many more.

[teenageloser33]

Heh, well suicide does a few good things for us. Controls population for one thinig (3200 people kill themselves averagely everyday), number two, it weeds out unstable, and thus as I hate to sound cynical worthless people. Life can only improve when your that low. Also I'd have to say this kid is mentally inane (empty, aka stupid), and selfish for offing himself over a game. Now before you jump my back and say "IT JUST WASN'T OVER A GAME!," look at it this way, what more could possibly be wrong with his life? If something as small as a game sent him over the edge, then whatever, he died for a stupid cause and his name shall forever rest in vain. Thank god I don't have to deal with that crap.

[Banks]

 

 

OMG this so sad and he hung himself casus he got scammed heck i may be sad about it once and a while but i just suck it up and move on because its just a game for God sakes!!AND GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, Read-before-you-post. And.. Did you tell a dead guy to get a life? 'Cause that might be the dumbest thing i've ever heard.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Correcion: "Dumbest thing I've ever READ" LOL

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

yeah, sometimes reading before posting helps :wink:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~komodo

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's 'correction' not 'correcion.'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No offense, but you are an idiot.

[rocketman089]

It's 'correction' not 'correcion.'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No offense, but you are an idiot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, because everyone who makes a typo is an automatic idiot, gah, get out, seriously.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

OT: Yeah, suicide, horrible thing.

[rads6]

....really truely...this kid had everything to lose from this...its a game...and if he was that depressed that only a game would push him off the edge....then maybe his parent should have noticed something?? wouldnt u think?? i mean, ive been physically, emotionally, and mentally abused for 10 yrs of my life. I have thought about suicide plenty of times. But here i am, alive and away from my father that abused me. Why?? because i didnt kill myself..yes i do feel sorry for the kid that he thought that his life should end at 14!, but he didnt need to do that....if he had stuck with it, more than likely everything would have gotten better! But we dont know what his home life was like...so maybe there was other factors that pushed his buttons and pushed him off the edge...you cant know unless ur his parents....(hell, they might not have known)....what im trying to say is that this kid should NOT have even been thinking about suicide at the age of 14, heck, not at all for that matter!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i might be callouse but i have a lot of expierence with this subject...ive been to [wagon] counseling and that just pissed me off even more. Seriously, i about killed myself just to not go to it. Its the worst thing to do for someone suicidal(but thats my opinion).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i dont feel sorry for the parents because they should have seen something was going on. Any active parent in theyre sons/daughters lifes, should have seen it.

[teenageloser33]

....really truely...this kid had everything to lose from this...its a game...and if he was that depressed that only a game would push him off the edge....then maybe his parent should have noticed something?? wouldnt u think?? i mean, ive been physically, emotionally, and mentally abused for 10 yrs of my life. I have thought about suicide plenty of times. But here i am, alive and away from my father that abused me. Why?? because i didnt kill myself..yes i do feel sorry for the kid that he thought that his life should end at 14!, but he didnt need to do that....if he had stuck with it, more than likely everything would have gotten better! But we dont know what his home life was like...so maybe there was other factors that pushed his buttons and pushed him off the edge...you cant know unless ur his parents....(hell, they might not have known)....what im trying to say is that this kid should NOT have even been thinking about suicide at the age of 14, heck, not at all for that matter!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i might be callouse but i have a lot of expierence with this subject...ive been to swell person counseling and that just pissed me off even more. Seriously, i about killed myself just to not go to it. Its the worst thing to do for someone suicidal(but thats my opinion).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i dont feel sorry for the parents because they should have seen something was going on. Any active parent in theyre sons/daughters lifes, should have seen it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Poor you, and your point is? Everyone deals with things in different ways, and his way was idiotic and selfish. You were lucky you could deal with it so well, but he couldn't. Nothing we can do now.

[rads6]

God, dont be so mean. I was saying that all u burning him dont know him so why say u do??

[teenageloser33]

None of us actually made the claim that we know him, these are all based on assumptions and from what we've experienced in our own lives. Just as the things you said related to the topic are assumptions. None of us know, but we are stating our opinion and contemplating what could have been so wrong.

[shade_bandyt]

wow... i think the fact that so many people referred to maarten as a coward and selfish for commiting suicide shows just how many immature people tipiters there are. i think this thread really distinguished the mature players from the young ones. i dont mean immature in a demeaning way, but its clear that some people havent been pass certain experiences in life, and looking back your response will be different because youve been through the situation

 

 

 

maarten was 14 years old. at that age very "little" things to us would be big deal to him. as you grow older you get a better perspective of the size of situations. you can deal with a wider range of issues. 14 year olds go through a lot, from finding their own identity to dealing with peers, parents, academics and biological changes. its a very delicate time. you cant expect a 14 year old to be a hero, of course hes going to be scared and overwhelmed by issues he faces day by day. thats why humans live with their parent until they are 18, when they have enough life experience to deal with more major life issues

 

 

 

i admit, around that time in my life i contemplated suicide at times. and i was an A student and admired in my neighboorhood. its just that without wisdom that comes with age, you think things are totally hopeless and overwhelming. one of the only things that kept me from commiting suicide was my religious fear of going to hell. believe it or not. lots of "normal" people who have a "good life" go through the same thing

 

 

 

of cousre, if maarten had stuck it out and realised that at some point life would get better, he would be looking back at his suicide note and laughing. but only in hindsight could he see that.

 

 

 

its a pity that his parents or adults in his life couldnt get to him. he relied on the friendship of his peers, and they knew no better, being his age.

 

 

 

i hope this will be a message to young people. yes times in life are depressing and seems beyond hope. but its only because you are young and havent been through the situation. stick it out and youll realise that you always get through and overcome. there is no such thing as an impossible problem. a solution always exists

[SDK]

I have to agree with shade on this. A lot of you are showing more ignorance than you can know. This isn't a matter of someone making a selfish/idiotic decision.

 

 

 

It is not always possbile for people to understand the mind set of people in this situation. Being 14 is tough, you think you have a good grasp on what the world is like, how things acutally are. However, this is rarely, if ever, the case. In addition to the confusion of being a teenager there is the addition of depression. These two combined can make very small things seem like huge life altering problems.

 

 

 

Please, don't dishonor this child's memory by calling him names. This is not the time for such things.

 

 

 

I would like to conclude with the thought that this is NOT the first time this has happened in a game like this, and will not be the last. Try to be kind and understanding to your fellowe gamers. You wouldn't want to be the one pushing them off the edge.

 

 

 

~SDK

[Bloodredsword]

wow...just...wow

 

 

 

:cry:

[Archer003]

Maybe I don't exactly have the right tone for this thread, but this is pathetic. Anyone who takes their own life deserves no sympathy.

 

 

 

may be a little harsh, but i am inclined to agree with this guy. Rs is taking over the younger genration and maybe the older. There have been so many deaths of things liek this happeneing. He should talked to someone who wasn't a 3d man

[cemal]

Look what is all your guys problems. It says that he had a bad time out of school and at home. Im sure he wasnt looking for this to be all over rs forums or for anybody feeling sorry for him but at least give him your respect!!

 

im mean im 13 myself and i find life very hard (and im sure im probably gonna get flammed for this) but i thought about this too. But as shade said, religion stopped me and wondering what would happen to my familly and wandering about my future. so plz can u not flame this guy because im sure he had a hard time (although im not saying he should of done it).

 

:evil:

 

RIP

[microtosh]

don't call him a coward. if he has the strength to commit suicide, there must be a reason. right? i am 15 yr old currently. life is super hard for me. everyone expects the best out of me and it's not really that i can't fulfill their wishes, but man, is it hard. this guy is juz one year younger than me. i know how it fills to have very little friends. Let's just say that i hav NO best friends at all. I'm kind of autistic in real life. If he has school and home problems/difficulties and runescape is the only place or one of the places he can turn to for comfort, it is really very sad. in my own perspective, runescape for him would be like another world, where people don't care about how you look like, whether you stammer or not, whether you are stupid or smart. what truly matters are your combat lvls, how rich you are, your total lvl and exp and other stuff. you join clans and you make new friends. let's just put it this way: you can't earn yourself a status or make others respect you in life, you turn to runescape.

 

 

 

and when he loses that kind of respect in runescape, he has to face his life back again. and this, is very horrible a torture for him. don't tell him to go starve in Africa or wadeva. That's physical torture, and what this poor guy has experienced was mental and emotional torture, and i think these two stuff are quite very equivalent.

[kelem_ryu]

since the last post is from this date i'm not the guy who bumps years old threads up and can give my 2 cents to this topic.

 

 

 

you know what really, really, really, really pisses me on? we live in a world, where people commit suicide, instead of a world, that is that cool, that nobody ever would want to leave. i'll do something about that. that's what i live for. i'll make this world into a better place for me to live in. i'll never, ever accept that the world has to be this [cabbage]ty place, that it seems to be.

 

 

 

kinda sure this maarten guy now is in a better place. lucky him =P

 

 

 

uhm.. btw.. what's wrong with selfishness? am i supposed to live for other people? i don't think so. (if i sound like a selfish [wagon] now, then go ahead ask the people who know me. if i help people and am generous, then just because i feel like it. everything is selfish. everything.)