Behind_you0 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 In my experience, I think Ahrim and Karil hit way harder then when Barrows first was released. Also do I think Guthan heals less often. Oh, a month ago you could drink if you were fast enough after a prayer drain. Now prayer immediatly falls out. It could just be that's me, though.. What do you think? Here's my blog: restoring it soon | Achieved 99 Crafting Quoting yourself is laaaaame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meb Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Your defence rose and you can kill barrow brothers faster now. Retired 2146 overall - 136 combat - 6 skillcapes Plus I think the whole teenage girl thing will end soon (hopefully), because my girlfriend is absolutely in love with him(she is 18), and im beginning to feel threatened by his [Justin Bieber] dashing looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflitny1 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 :-k Karil definately hits harder, there was an update that said he did a few months ago, but I'm not sure about ahrim, he definately hits the odd 20 on me whereas he never used to, I think it's better though, forces (most) people to use prayer on Karil. I really am not sure about ahrim though. Guthan does heal less often now I think, I remember him healing 60+ in one fight about 6-7 months ago, now he only heals once per fight, twice if you're unlucky. I don't know about the prayer drain thing at all. Drops: Barrows: 60+ DK: 4... Dragon: 60+ Whips: 2... GWD: 0...ouch!Main Goal: 2000 total with no 99's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behind_you0 Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 :-k Karil definately hits harder, there was an update that said he did a few months ago, but I'm not sure about ahrim, he definately hits the odd 20 on me whereas he never used to, I think it's better though, forces (most) people to use prayer on Karil. I really am not sure about ahrim though. Guthan does heal less often now I think, I remember him healing 60+ in one fight about 6-7 months ago, now he only heals once per fight, twice if you're unlucky. I don't know about the prayer drain thing at all. Prayer drain was like: You have 5 pp left. The drain comes, you'r on 0. If you're on 0 when you got a drain, you got like 3 seconds the time to drink before it falled out. Here's my blog: restoring it soon | Achieved 99 Crafting Quoting yourself is laaaaame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaaaaap Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I agree with you. Before, i could own ahrims with my noobish 64 range+red hide without getting hit even once, Now i see salvo's of 19's flying around me. And karil even has the guts to hit straight 20's through my Dharoks. And guthan...Well i don't know :wall: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangea Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Your defence rose and you can kill barrow brothers faster now. agree with that i remeber i kiled hill jiannts whne i was smaler level and how i kill them now :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behind_you0 Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 I said: They hit harder now. So it can't depend on if my defense rosed, because if that would be they would hit lower now. :) Here's my blog: restoring it soon | Achieved 99 Crafting Quoting yourself is laaaaame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin_696 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Ahrim does seem to hit harder than what he used to do, i don't know about Karil, i use prayer on him. "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meb Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I said: They hit harder now. So it can't depend on if my defense rosed, because if that would be they would hit lower now. :) Totally misread your post :-# New smilies own. Retired 2146 overall - 136 combat - 6 skillcapes Plus I think the whole teenage girl thing will end soon (hopefully), because my girlfriend is absolutely in love with him(she is 18), and im beginning to feel threatened by his [Justin Bieber] dashing looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver24-7 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 :-k Karil definately hits harder, there was an update that said he did a few months ago, but I'm not sure about ahrim, he definately hits the odd 20 on me whereas he never used to, I think it's better though, forces (most) people to use prayer on Karil. I really am not sure about ahrim though. Guthan does heal less often now I think, I remember him healing 60+ in one fight about 6-7 months ago, now he only heals once per fight, twice if you're unlucky. I don't know about the prayer drain thing at all. jagex NEVER admitted to karils hitting harder. they always said we just had random luck or unluck and I believe they could actually be right. you enevr know though. I'm Finally 99 mage ^^ (and cooking...) :PSilver24-7 - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God_is_love Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 i thought there was a tip it times that told us about hidden updates and included about karil hitting harder(the first one). is it in the moderator center? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflitny1 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 :-k Karil definately hits harder, there was an update that said he did a few months ago, but I'm not sure about ahrim, he definately hits the odd 20 on me whereas he never used to, I think it's better though, forces (most) people to use prayer on Karil. I really am not sure about ahrim though. Guthan does heal less often now I think, I remember him healing 60+ in one fight about 6-7 months ago, now he only heals once per fight, twice if you're unlucky. I don't know about the prayer drain thing at all. jagex NEVER admitted to karils hitting harder. they always said we just had random luck or unluck and I believe they could actually be right. you enevr know though. Actually it was an official update posted on the home page of http://www.runescape.com along with the other updates happening at the time. bflitny1 wrote: Karil definately hits harder, there was an update that said he did a few months ago, but I'm not sure about ahrim, he definately hits the odd 20 on me whereas he never used to, I think it's better though, forces (most) people to use prayer on Karil. I really am not sure about ahrim though. Guthan does heal less often now I think, I remember him healing 60+ in one fight about 6-7 months ago, now he only heals once per fight, twice if you're unlucky. I don't know about the prayer drain thing at all. Prayer drain was like: You have 5 pp left. The drain comes, you'r on 0. If you're on 0 when you got a drain, you got like 3 seconds the time to drink before it falled out. I think I understand what you're saying, I do remember having time between the time that your prayer said "0" and your prayer actually turning off, although I think that random and it just let you get hit once after your prayer turned off, so if you get hit a split second after it turned off, you won't notice what happened, it could have changed though I guess, but I know that's how it worked before. Drops: Barrows: 60+ DK: 4... Dragon: 60+ Whips: 2... GWD: 0...ouch!Main Goal: 2000 total with no 99's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heath_at_UK Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I still have that delay from when my rayer drains to when it actually turns off. I always let it run down this way also and then drink a p pot dose then. I actually ahve saved many a p pot dose doing this. An di know that this still works for me or it did 4 days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyyankees588 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 yeah i used to be able to let my prayer get to 0 then quickly drick a p pot. This would save me 1 dose of the p pot and I wouldn't have to turn prayer back on. :-k Getting another sig[removed] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Diddy Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 well for one thing i never attempt karil without prayer but havent been playing long enough to see the diffrence between when it was reaslead and now, alot of times in tunnels i just walk through a door and he comes out 20 20 20 and im almost donw to 10 hp, And i was wearing full Torag! Even ahrim hits hard its really not possible for a monster to hit that well on black dragonhide. guthan got alot easier tho barely hits me but gets lucky by having 3-5 healing specs in a row overall karil=really hard, ahrim=hard, guthan=close to as weak as torag and did anyone notice torag sucks? he barely hits me in my monks robe :-k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflitny1 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 well for one thing i never attempt karil without prayer but havent been playing long enough to see the diffrence between when it was reaslead and now, alot of times in tunnels i just walk through a door and he comes out 20 20 20 and im almost donw to 10 hp, And i was wearing full Torag! Even ahrim hits hard its really not possible for a monster to hit that well on black dragonhide. guthan got alot easier tho barely hits me but gets lucky by having 3-5 healing specs in a row overall karil=really hard, ahrim=hard, guthan=close to as weak as torag and did anyone notice torag sucks? he barely hits me in my monks robe :-k Torag has always been terrible, most people kill him without prayer as chances are the sharks used will cost less. I explained what I thought of the prayer thing a few posts up Drops: Barrows: 60+ DK: 4... Dragon: 60+ Whips: 2... GWD: 0...ouch!Main Goal: 2000 total with no 99's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yomom1919 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 torag + guthan are both easily killable without prayer \ (especially since guthan heals thru prayer anyway) but as for ahrim + krail, i just started barrows ah.. 3 weeks ago. but i dont see a problem as i always pray on krail (dangerous :-# ). i tried not praying on ahrim but he hit me constantly. seems kinda weird :| . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdd Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I do just fine on ahrims without pray because I use karils top and skirt but yeah he does hit harder because he still gets the occasional 15+ in on me. Karil is tons harder and Guthan heals less. Also I've noticed Dharok is weaker... I got bored and decided to take him out no pray and he only hit me for 15 the whole time :shock: And has anyone else noticed that the "secret door entrance" isnt as noticable anymore? There used to be a black outline to it now theres not and how long has that been or is it just me? :-k [spoiler=Levels] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflitny1 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I do just fine on ahrims without pray because I use karils top and skirt but yeah he does hit harder because he still gets the occasional 15+ in on me. Karil is tons harder and Guthan heals less. Also I've noticed Dharok is weaker... I got bored and decided to take him out no pray and he only hit me for 15 the whole time :shock: And has anyone else noticed that the "secret door entrance" isnt as noticable anymore? There used to be a black outline to it now theres not and how long has that been or is it just me? :-k What's the "secret door entrance?" I don't think dharok has changed, his attacks are all up to luck, he could 30 0's in a row then whack a 59 before he dies, NEVER fight him without prayer, NEVER lag whilst fighting him!!!! Drops: Barrows: 60+ DK: 4... Dragon: 60+ Whips: 2... GWD: 0...ouch!Main Goal: 2000 total with no 99's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attackyomom Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 i never pray on ahrim guthan or torag all super easy and i heard they did update karil to make him stronger but a long time ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nvw08 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Ahrim really owns now, he used to be easier. And Karil was made harder, he now hits really have on my in full torag #-o I also remember guthan healing on i every 3 hits, now I ca kill him without him healing once :-k Droolman's item Guide | My RuneScape pictures | My barrows videos, with download link!Free Image Hosting! | Free File Hosting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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